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So, each of these cost $20 Bil./126= $ 158.73 Mil. ... Wonder if its still worth it..
Better to concentrate on LCA-2,3 ,AMCA and MKIs....This will be another scandal in CAG's report...

Too late buddy. :wave:
 
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As per New channels
MOD will announce the lowest bidder by December
MOD has also confirmed that the finalized deal would be for 20 Billion USD and Not 11-12 Billion as Previously thought , coz that price was set in 2007 and first aircraft will be delivered in 2014

Though NDTV just reported that Weapons package for mmrca will cost about 3-4 Billion USD depending on the number of AAM and A2G armament ordered and will be included in the 20 Billion USD agreement.
Also cost of Mentainence infrastructure and Assembly line will amount 1.5-2 Billion USD depending on whether Rafale or EF is chosen
Initial reports by NDTV , Aaj Tak have suggested that there is a gap of 2 Billion USD between the cost of just the aircrafts excluding cost of TOT and Weapons
While final decision will be taken after including Life cycle cost and the quality of Technology being transfered as well as quality of offsets

Former Airforce chief PV Naik has suggested that if the gap of 2 Billion USD stays even after taking into account Lifecycle cost , then MOD should buy 18 More jets preferably in flyaway conditions from the lowest bidder, which would boast IAF strength , instead of signing the deal for 18 Billion USD instead of 20 Billion USD , since MOD and FM have given in principle approval for spending 20 Billion USD , this decision was taken after opening the bid of EF

Link please..
 
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hehe koi nhi...aap rafale rakh lo aur hume typhoon jaldi se dilwa do.....waise idea bura nahi hai if paf goes for rafale then typhoon will be announced wiinner within one hour....kidding

we are not in hurry our line of thunders is working day night and we want more and more late MMRCA :D

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As per New channels
MOD will announce the lowest bidder by December
MOD has also confirmed that the finalized deal would be for 20 Billion USD and Not 11-12 Billion as Previously thought , coz that price was set in 2007 and first aircraft will be delivered in 2014

Though NDTV just reported that Weapons package for mmrca will cost about 3-4 Billion USD depending on the number of AAM and A2G armament ordered and will be included in the 20 Billion USD agreement.
Also cost of Mentainence infrastructure and Assembly line will amount 1.5-2 Billion USD depending on whether Rafale or EF is chosen
Initial reports by NDTV , Aaj Tak have suggested that there is a gap of 2 Billion USD between the cost of just the aircrafts excluding cost of TOT and Weapons
While final decision will be taken after including Life cycle cost and the quality of Technology being transfered as well as quality of offsets

Former Airforce chief PV Naik has suggested that if the gap of 2 Billion USD stays even after taking into account Lifecycle cost , then MOD should buy 18 More jets preferably in flyaway conditions from the lowest bidder, which would boast IAF strength , instead of signing the deal for 18 Billion USD instead of 20 Billion USD , since MOD and FM have given in principle approval for spending 20 Billion USD , this decision was taken after opening the bid of EF

they never said abut dec2011 thay just said dec may be its 2015:rofl:
 
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if deal will rise upto 20 billion dollars then i am damn sure babus are planning for a big loot-pat.......Anna ko bulao...ramdev where are you?
 
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if deal will rise upto 20 billion dollars then i am damn sure babus are planning for a big loot-pat.......Anna ko bulao...ramdev where are you?

20 billion mein to 400 F 16 block 60 aa jaate ;)
 
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if deal will rise upto 20 billion dollars then i am damn sure babus are planning for a big loot-pat.......Anna ko bulao...ramdev where are you?

you can't call them daily dear ahahahh if aana movement done it then it was signed since 3 months :D
 
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Imran Khan is a silent killer of threads first he cracks some light jokes and after taking a little inspiration from him rest of the trolls join in.:cheesy:

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So, each of these cost $20 Bil./126= $ 158.73 Mil. ... Wonder if its still worth it..
Better to concentrate on LCA-2,3 ,AMCA and MKIs....This will be another scandal in CAG's report...

This deal includes many things with planes for sure like Weapon package ,spares etc So I don't think its a bad move at all. BTW Rafale is going to win:bounce:

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Guys visit this thread for a fair comparison b/t the two planes (although I know we have seen many threads on this)

http://www.defence.pk/forums/india-...-last-two-mmrca-contenders-7.html#post2253386

RAFALE RAFALE RAFALE :thinktank:
 
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Imran Khan is a silent killer of threads first he cracks some light jokes and after taking a little inspiration from him rest of the trolls join in.:cheesy:





man you insult senior citizen ? ok let me go court for this .lolz

MMRCA is the topic and i never kill a rat till today so how can i kill thread :lol:
 
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An Indian contract to buy 126 fighter jets from one of two European bidders could be worth more than $20bn, almost double the original estimate, according to government officials.

The defence ministry revised up its initial $11bn estimate after opening bids on Friday from the Eurofighter Typhoon consortium and France’s Dassault, the maker of the Rafale aircraft, a ministry official told the Financial Times.

Identifying the lowest bidder is likely to take up to eight weeks, the ministry said. Thereafter, the proposal would go to the finance ministry for review. The government will choose a lead bidder with whom it will then start negotiating a final price.

“Various parameters will be studied to arrive at the lowest bidder,” the ministry official said. “The most important parameter remains the life-cycle cost which is an individual criteria that is added to the total cost.”

When the tender to modernise India’s air force, one of the biggest military aviation orders by a single country, was launched more than four years ago, it was estimated at $11bn.

In April, India shortlisted Eurofighter and Rafale after eliminating Boeing’s F/A-18, Lockheed Martin’s F-16, Russia’s MiG-35 and Swedish Saab’s Gripen.

The defence official said adjustments were being made to the previous estimates of $11bn for the contract as it was based on 2007 figures and needed to reflect current prices.

“I suspect there hasn’t been a firm handle on the unit costs for quite a while,” said John Louth, a former RAF officer and deputy head of the Defence Industries and Society programme at the Royal United Services Institute.

Mr Louth said that the higher prices do not necessarily mean a jump in profit for the makers of whichever fighter is chosen. “If India is paying $20bn for just the physical aeroplanes, then that’s a fantastic deal [for Eurofighter or Dassault], but that’s not the reality. Much of this increase will be clawed back by the government through the support contracts to maintain the aircraft. There’s only so much money that exchequers can afford.”

The decision to choose one of the European aircraft has not prevented the US from making a last-ditch effort to sell advanced fighters to India. The Pentagon this week told the US Congress that it was prepared to provide information to India about the F-35 Lightning II, a fifth-generation fighter aircraft produced by Lockheed Martin.

European defence companies have expressed concern that the US might try to short-circuit the bidding process with a new, more attractive offer outside of the terms of the competition.

But Indian defence analysts say that the process to choose the multi-role combat aircraft is too far advanced for a U-turn. A sudden departure from the process would dent credibility, they say, at a time when the conduct of India’s bureaucracy is under greater public scrutiny after a number of high profile corruption scandals.
 
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An Indian contract to buy 126 fighter jets from one of two European bidders could be worth more than $20bn, almost double the original estimate, according to government officials.

The defence ministry revised up its initial $11bn estimate after opening bids on Friday from the Eurofighter Typhoon consortium and France’s Dassault, the maker of the Rafale aircraft, a ministry official told the Financial Times.

Identifying the lowest bidder is likely to take up to eight weeks, the ministry said. Thereafter, the proposal would go to the finance ministry for review. The government will choose a lead bidder with whom it will then start negotiating a final price.

“Various parameters will be studied to arrive at the lowest bidder,” the ministry official said. “The most important parameter remains the life-cycle cost which is an individual criteria that is added to the total cost.”

When the tender to modernise India’s air force, one of the biggest military aviation orders by a single country, was launched more than four years ago, it was estimated at $11bn.

In April, India shortlisted Eurofighter and Rafale after eliminating Boeing’s F/A-18, Lockheed Martin’s F-16, Russia’s MiG-35 and Swedish Saab’s Gripen.

The defence official said adjustments were being made to the previous estimates of $11bn for the contract as it was based on 2007 figures and needed to reflect current prices.

“I suspect there hasn’t been a firm handle on the unit costs for quite a while,” said John Louth, a former RAF officer and deputy head of the Defence Industries and Society programme at the Royal United Services Institute.

Mr Louth said that the higher prices do not necessarily mean a jump in profit for the makers of whichever fighter is chosen. “If India is paying $20bn for just the physical aeroplanes, then that’s a fantastic deal [for Eurofighter or Dassault], but that’s not the reality. Much of this increase will be clawed back by the government through the support contracts to maintain the aircraft. There’s only so much money that exchequers can afford.”

The decision to choose one of the European aircraft has not prevented the US from making a last-ditch effort to sell advanced fighters to India. The Pentagon this week told the US Congress that it was prepared to provide information to India about the F-35 Lightning II, a fifth-generation fighter aircraft produced by Lockheed Martin.

European defence companies have expressed concern that the US might try to short-circuit the bidding process with a new, more attractive offer outside of the terms of the competition.

But Indian defence analysts say that the process to choose the multi-role combat aircraft is too far advanced for a U-turn. A sudden departure from the process would dent credibility, they say, at a time when the conduct of India’s bureaucracy is under greater public scrutiny after a number of high profile corruption scandals.
 
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I tell you--- Our babus will do a party in night with french and britishers along with their delegation :smitten: and will decide the fate
 
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