Dassault Rafale, tender | News & Discussions [Thread 2]

[PARIKRAMA]

- Thats as close you will get to see the real thing

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[noksss]

Ajai Shukla at it again
http://www.rediff.com/news/column/f...ld-ruin-modi-and-parrikars-party/20160923.htm

 

[PARIKRAMA]

I assume the 180 mentioned in the post EXCLUDES Naval Rafale ?

at least 54 from Merignac for IN and more from Indian Line later.
In his posts he states
The deal is already sealed for firm 180 aircraft of which upto 54 will come from France and rest will be thru MII. Also, India will not have to spend even a penny to set up the assemblyline. Fance will pay for it and make Rafale in India. We will buy from this assemblyline.

 

[VivasvatManu]

at least 54 from Merignac for IN and more from Indian Line later.
In his posts he states
The deal is already sealed for firm 180 aircraft of which upto 54 will come from France and rest will be thru MII. Also, India will not have to spend even a penny to set up the assemblyline. Fance will pay for it and make Rafale in India. We will buy from this assemblyline.

The 54 mentioned appears to be the 36+18 in the initial contract. Not the Naval Rafale. Hence the Q.

 

[monitor]

at least 54 from Merignac for IN and more from Indian Line later.
In his posts he states
The deal is already sealed for firm 180 aircraft of which upto 54 will come from France and rest will be thru MII. Also, India will not have to spend even a penny to set up the assemblyline. Fance will pay for it and make Rafale in India. We will buy from this assemblyline.

Then what about TOT? France will just make rafale inside India using Indian workforce and sell to India and probably other countries?

 

[PARIKRAMA]

@PARIKRAMA

If the option for 126 goes through, where does that put the prospect for Gripens?

They have to give a revised offer.. that will take time.. The discussion for LWF replacement or add on to CLA will happen but after a certain review post Airforce day.
LCA 4 in numbers were suppose to fly from Hindon base on IAF day and now only 2 and 1 static model will be there. This will lead to certain process where IAF and DM MP will review and prepare ground work. The present Tejas plan to upgrade the capacity of production itself will be delayed to early 2020s. So yes Gripen E or other LWF fighters will get a look in for this specific reason. The turf war and HAL not allowing L&T to set up the production line will boomerang soon.

The 54 mentioned appears to be the 36+18 in the initial contract. Not the Naval Rafale. Hence the Q.

As far as i know and what i have heard is

• 36+18 IAF + 36+18 IN - Merignac line
• minimum 2X the Merignac line order from India.
• All this will be in 5-6 tranches.

IAF may not get the 18 in case it is allotted to IN then yes its a possibility it will be 36+54 = 90 and 2X that figure so 180 from MII

Then what about TOT? France will just make rafale inside India using Indian workforce and sell to India and probably other countries?

15 critical tech is already shared including Radar, Spectra, propulsion systems of Missile, Ram coating, aerodynamic modelling of Indian projects, help in Indian Military R&D etc tec.
The MII line will lead to MIC ecosystem creation and readying for the 5th gen AMCA where again French side will contribute handsomely

 

[VivasvatManu]

As far as i know and what i have heard is

• 36+18 IAF + 36+18 IN - Merignac line
• minimum 2X the Merignac line order from India.
• All this will be in 5-6 tranches.

IAF may not get the 18 in case it is allotted to IN then yes its a possibility it will be 36+54 = 90 and 2X that figure so 180 from MII

That makes sense. But also points to the fact that any assembly line for 90 aircrafts will not have too much MII component in it. It will end up as screwdrive tech. and CAG is going to have a field day in the future picking holes in the Offset.

So BJP third term will be 'offset' by this future CAG scandal.

 

[cerberus]

They have to give a revised offer.. that will take time.. The discussion for LWF replacement or add on to CLA will happen but after a certain review post Airforce day.
LCA 4 in numbers were suppose to fly from Hindon base on IAF day and now only 2 and 1 static model will be there. This will lead to certain process where IAF and DM MP will review and prepare ground work. The present Tejas plan to upgrade the capacity of production itself will be delayed to early 2020s. So yes Gripen E or other LWF fighters will get a look in for this specific reason. The turf war and HAL not allowing L&T to set up the production line will boomerang soon.


As far as i know and what i have heard is

• 36+18 IAF + 36+18 IN - Merignac line
• minimum 2X the Merignac line order from India.
• All this will be in 5-6 tranches.

IAF may not get the 18 in case it is allotted to IN then yes its a possibility it will be 36+54 = 90 and 2X that figure so 180 from MII


15 critical tech is already shared including Radar, Spectra, propulsion systems of Missile, Ram coating, aerodynamic modelling of Indian projects, help in Indian Military R&D etc tec.
The MII line will lead to MIC ecosystem creation and readying for the 5th gen AMCA where again French side will contribute handsomely

Basically what we see is that IAF will replace its entire jaguar fleet with rafale

 

[debspark90]

OMG OMG OMG OMG...

Thanks @PARIKRAMA. You always rock

 

[Grevion]

@PARIKRAMA Many Continental Europeans use comma instead of period to mark decimal point Just FYI

Look who's back.

Once the deal is signed, we must all chip-in and buy 1 Rafale for @PARIKRAMA as a token of appreciation for his efforts. Lol

Good Day!

For that all of us needs to be a millionaire. Sorry @PARIKRAMA we can get you this instead

Not in the same colours.

 

[cerberus]

@PARIKRAMA after deal sign we will make a different thread because it now no more discussion

 

[Nilgiri]

Not in the same colours.

@Kashmiri Pandit can have that one in the picture

 

[Grevion]

@Kashmiri Pandit can have that one in the picture

Yeah. We can extract millions from him.
Japanese animation and pink, he will die for it.

 

[#hydra#]

Apart from rafale we are going for pakfa too and possibly amca also.

 

[migflug]

Deal for 36 Rafale fighter jets between India and France signed; deal is worth 7.8 billion euros.
3 mins ago - Twitter


FLASH: Deal for 36 Rafale fighter jets between India and France signed.


India, France sign #RafaleDeal. India to get 36 fighter jets. First jet to be delivered in 36 months