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If the French want this deal done, this is their best chance. Make an offer that cannot be refused. Last chance to sweeten the deal.
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Germany still ready to offer Eurofighter aircraft to India | Zee News
Last Updated: Thursday, April 9, 2015 - 10:12
New Delhi: Germany has said that the four-nation military consortium European Aeronautic Defence and Space (EADS) is still ready to provide the Eurofighter Typhoon aircraft to India, asserting that the jets are good both in terms of quality and price.
The Rafale deal has been stuck on cost and technology transfer issues.
German Ambassador to India, Michael Steiner , said the consortium stands ready with their proposal and the governments of the four nations are supporting the proposal.
After the merger of British, German, French and Spanish entities, EADS came into being in 2000 as Europe's largest aerospace company.
In 2012, India had selected France's Dassault Aviation from among five bidders for buying 126 Rafale fighter jets as it was the lowest bidder.
Dassault Aviation and EDFS are the only two defence firms left in the race for the 126 aircraft Indian deal after years of tests on various aspects.
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Terrain-following Tested on Single-seat Rafale
(Source: French air force; issued April 9, 2015)
(Issued in French; unofficial translation by Defense-Arospace.com)
The French air force’s Centre d’Expériences Aériennes Militaires (CEAM) military aircraft test center, and the French navy’s détachement du centre d’expérimentations pratiques de l’aéronautique navale (Det CEPA) naval aviation flight trials detachment are working together on a project to develop terrain-following capabilities for Rafale’s single-seat variants.
An innovative feature
Integrated into the aircraft, this flight control mode mode allows it to fly at high speed and low level over the ground or sea. In complete safety and under all weather conditions, the aircraft can operate at very low level by day and night thanks to its sophisticated advanced autopilot, which protects the crew by preventing the aircraft from impacting natural (terrain features) and artificial (antennas, bridges, cables, etc) obstacles. The crew is thus free to concentrate on the prosecution of its mission, on surviving in a hostile environment and on achieving its operational objectives.
Pilots testing this capability seek, above all, to ensure the safety of single-seat aircraft and their pilots during use of the terrain-following mode. The current trials aim to provide Air Force and Navy staffs a training profile offering lower costs, and including flight operations as well as simulator flights. However, this feature is currently only authorized on two-seat Rafales, whose crews include both pilot and navigator.
A twin ambition for the Air Force
These trials allow the air force to evaluate the feasibility of allowing combat squadrons equipped with the single-seat Rafale variant, and based at Saint-Dizier and Mont-de-Marsan, to carry out fire support missions as well as aerial interceptions in all weather conditions.
The goal is two-fold. First, perform “show of force” demonstrations by flying high-speed, low-level passes over enemy forces, a tactic that is routinely used by Mirage 2000D Rafale two-seat fighters during foreign missions.
A terrain-following capability will also allow air-defense pilots to intercept unidentified aircraft flying at very low altitude, even through low cloud cover, in complete safety.
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Terrain-following Tested on Single-seat Rafale
@halloweene @sancho @Abingdonboy
If i remember correctly, Rafale already had terrain hugging capability as claimed by former Air force folks when they compared Rafale with Su30 MKI. Is this further development of that or its a new capability all together? i am a bit confused here about terrain hugging word usage here.. or is the "autopilot" feature the new addition ?
Original Article
Le suivi de terrain expérimenté sur Rafale monoplace
Updated: 04/09/2015 11:17
The center of military air experiments (EHIC) and detachment of practical experimentation center of naval aviation (Det CEPA) work together on a common project: Field Monitoring seater Rafale.
An innovative feature
Integrated with the fighter, this function allows to fly at high speed near the ground or the sea. Safe and all weather conditions, the aircraft flies by day or night with its autopilot developed . This protects the airmen natural terrain and artificial obstacles (antennas, bridges, cables, etc). The crew can engage cognitive resources for its survival in a hostile environment and the achievement of its business objectives. The experimenters seek above all to ensure the safety of aircraft pilots cars that will use the terrain-following. This experiment aims to provide staffs of the Air Force and the Navy a training repository at lower cost, as well as operating the simulator flights.However, this feature is currently only permitted two-seater Rafale, carrying a pilot and a navigator.
A double ambition for the Air Force
This experiment allows the Air Force to evaluate the possibility to achieve by squadrons equipped Gust cars (in Saint-Dizier and Mont-de-Marsan) fire support missions as well as aerial interceptions all types of weather. The goal is twofold. First, perform shows of strength (strength demonstrations), running low and rapid transition over enemy troops, aerial maneuvers regularly conducted operations by Mirage 2000D and Rafale. On the other hand, this field tracking capability provides an air defense pilots the opportunity to achieve the interception of an unknown aircraft flying at very low altitude, and this safely, even through the clouds
Le suivi de terrain expérimenté sur Rafale monoplace
(Source: French air force; issued April 9, 2015)
(Issued in French; unofficial translation by Defense-Arospace.com)
The French air force’s Centre d’Expériences Aériennes Militaires (CEAM) military aircraft test center, and the French navy’s détachement du centre d’expérimentations pratiques de l’aéronautique navale (Det CEPA) naval aviation flight trials detachment are working together on a project to develop terrain-following capabilities for Rafale’s single-seat variants.
An innovative feature
Integrated into the aircraft, this flight control mode mode allows it to fly at high speed and low level over the ground or sea. In complete safety and under all weather conditions, the aircraft can operate at very low level by day and night thanks to its sophisticated advanced autopilot, which protects the crew by preventing the aircraft from impacting natural (terrain features) and artificial (antennas, bridges, cables, etc) obstacles. The crew is thus free to concentrate on the prosecution of its mission, on surviving in a hostile environment and on achieving its operational objectives.
Pilots testing this capability seek, above all, to ensure the safety of single-seat aircraft and their pilots during use of the terrain-following mode. The current trials aim to provide Air Force and Navy staffs a training profile offering lower costs, and including flight operations as well as simulator flights. However, this feature is currently only authorized on two-seat Rafales, whose crews include both pilot and navigator.
A twin ambition for the Air Force
These trials allow the air force to evaluate the feasibility of allowing combat squadrons equipped with the single-seat Rafale variant, and based at Saint-Dizier and Mont-de-Marsan, to carry out fire support missions as well as aerial interceptions in all weather conditions.
The goal is two-fold. First, perform “show of force” demonstrations by flying high-speed, low-level passes over enemy forces, a tactic that is routinely used by Mirage 2000D Rafale two-seat fighters during foreign missions.
A terrain-following capability will also allow air-defense pilots to intercept unidentified aircraft flying at very low altitude, even through low cloud cover, in complete safety.
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Terrain-following Tested on Single-seat Rafale
@halloweene @sancho @Abingdonboy
If i remember correctly, Rafale already had terrain hugging capability as claimed by former Air force folks when they compared Rafale with Su30 MKI. Is this further development of that or its a new capability all together? i am a bit confused here about terrain hugging word usage here.. or is the "autopilot" feature the new addition ?
Original Article
Le suivi de terrain expérimenté sur Rafale monoplace
Updated: 04/09/2015 11:17
The center of military air experiments (EHIC) and detachment of practical experimentation center of naval aviation (Det CEPA) work together on a common project: Field Monitoring seater Rafale.
An innovative feature
Integrated with the fighter, this function allows to fly at high speed near the ground or the sea. Safe and all weather conditions, the aircraft flies by day or night with its autopilot developed . This protects the airmen natural terrain and artificial obstacles (antennas, bridges, cables, etc). The crew can engage cognitive resources for its survival in a hostile environment and the achievement of its business objectives. The experimenters seek above all to ensure the safety of aircraft pilots cars that will use the terrain-following. This experiment aims to provide staffs of the Air Force and the Navy a training repository at lower cost, as well as operating the simulator flights.However, this feature is currently only permitted two-seater Rafale, carrying a pilot and a navigator.
A double ambition for the Air Force
This experiment allows the Air Force to evaluate the possibility to achieve by squadrons equipped Gust cars (in Saint-Dizier and Mont-de-Marsan) fire support missions as well as aerial interceptions all types of weather. The goal is twofold. First, perform shows of strength (strength demonstrations), running low and rapid transition over enemy troops, aerial maneuvers regularly conducted operations by Mirage 2000D and Rafale. On the other hand, this field tracking capability provides an air defense pilots the opportunity to achieve the interception of an unknown aircraft flying at very low altitude, and this safely, even through the clouds
Le suivi de terrain expérimenté sur Rafale monoplace
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Updated: April 10, 2015 01:09 IST
Modi hopeful of progress on Rafale, Areva n-deal
India is looking to buy 126 Rafale fighter aircraft. Photo: Special arrangement
Prime Minister Narendra Modi has sparked fresh speculation over a possible breakthrough on the Rafale aircraft deal and an agreement on the Jaitapur nuclear power plant in Maharashtra during his visit to France, with indications that negotiations are heading in a positive manner.
In an interview to the French newspaper Le Figaro, Mr. Modi said, “France is one of our closest strategic partners, and significant opportunities for cooperation exist with India, particularly in the fields of nuclear energy and defence.” Asked specifically about the possibility of an announcement on buying 126 Rafale fighter aircraft, Mr. Modi’s written answer was, “We should be able to move forward on a mutually acceptable basis.”
Earlier this week, French President Francois Hollande denied any announcement on the Rafale deal “before the visit of Prime Minister Modi” and he did not want the visit to be “put in the context of a contract,” fuelling speculation about some movement during the visit.
Stuck since 2012
The $20-billion deal for 126 Rafale fighter aircraft has been stuck since 2012 over price and delivery guarantees. “Especially given that negotiations have dragged on for more than three years, it is important to give them some direction now,” the former Ambassador to France Rakesh Sood told The Hindu.
Mr. Modi reached Paris on Thursday ahead of his bilateral talks with Mr. Hollande. He is expected to engage with French CEOs from infrastructure companies, including energy and defence firms. Any movement on the two big outstanding issues of the Rafale negotiations or on nuclear negotiations for the Jaitapur plant would be a positive signal for other investors, officials said ahead of the talks, while not confirming there would be any.
Mr. Modi, who will meet Mr. Hollande during bilateral negotiations, followed by a ride down the Seine, is expected to try and iron out some of the larger issues on both sets of negotiations during the day. “Unlike the Indo-U.S. nuclear deal, the Indo-France deal is stuck at a technical-commercial stage, and not a political one, so it will be harder for the leaders to announce a breakthrough similar to the one during the Obama visit,” said Mr. Sood, who was formerly India’s nuclear envoy.
On the nuclear issue, Mr. Modi said he was hopeful “to see a result soon”. Negotiations between Areva and Nuclear Power Corporation of India Ltd. have been stuck over pricing and technical difficulties. Another hurdle has emerged after Areva’s reactor (European Pressure Reactors or EPRs) developed an “anomaly” during tests for its 1650 MWe reactor in Flamanville, which is similar to the one planned in Jaitapur. According to a release from the nuclear regulatory authority ASN on April 7, “Initial measurements confirmed the presence of this anomaly in the reactor vessel head and reactor vessel bottom head of the Flamanville EPR.” Safety concerns over the Jaitapur reactor had earlier held up land acquisition in the area, and nuclear activists and the BJP’s ally Shiv Sena continue to oppose the French project in Maharashtra. Asked if a deal was still possible in Paris, an official told The Hindu they were “burning the midnight oil.”
Modi hopeful of progress on Rafale, Areva n-deal
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India is looking to buy 126 Rafale fighter aircraft. Photo: Special arrangement
Prime Minister Narendra Modi has sparked fresh speculation over a possible breakthrough on the Rafale aircraft deal and an agreement on the Jaitapur nuclear power plant in Maharashtra during his visit to France, with indications that negotiations are heading in a positive manner.
In an interview to the French newspaper Le Figaro, Mr. Modi said, “France is one of our closest strategic partners, and significant opportunities for cooperation exist with India, particularly in the fields of nuclear energy and defence.” Asked specifically about the possibility of an announcement on buying 126 Rafale fighter aircraft, Mr. Modi’s written answer was, “We should be able to move forward on a mutually acceptable basis.”
Earlier this week, French President Francois Hollande denied any announcement on the Rafale deal “before the visit of Prime Minister Modi” and he did not want the visit to be “put in the context of a contract,” fuelling speculation about some movement during the visit.
Stuck since 2012
The $20-billion deal for 126 Rafale fighter aircraft has been stuck since 2012 over price and delivery guarantees. “Especially given that negotiations have dragged on for more than three years, it is important to give them some direction now,” the former Ambassador to France Rakesh Sood told The Hindu.
Mr. Modi reached Paris on Thursday ahead of his bilateral talks with Mr. Hollande. He is expected to engage with French CEOs from infrastructure companies, including energy and defence firms. Any movement on the two big outstanding issues of the Rafale negotiations or on nuclear negotiations for the Jaitapur plant would be a positive signal for other investors, officials said ahead of the talks, while not confirming there would be any.
Mr. Modi, who will meet Mr. Hollande during bilateral negotiations, followed by a ride down the Seine, is expected to try and iron out some of the larger issues on both sets of negotiations during the day. “Unlike the Indo-U.S. nuclear deal, the Indo-France deal is stuck at a technical-commercial stage, and not a political one, so it will be harder for the leaders to announce a breakthrough similar to the one during the Obama visit,” said Mr. Sood, who was formerly India’s nuclear envoy.
On the nuclear issue, Mr. Modi said he was hopeful “to see a result soon”. Negotiations between Areva and Nuclear Power Corporation of India Ltd. have been stuck over pricing and technical difficulties. Another hurdle has emerged after Areva’s reactor (European Pressure Reactors or EPRs) developed an “anomaly” during tests for its 1650 MWe reactor in Flamanville, which is similar to the one planned in Jaitapur. According to a release from the nuclear regulatory authority ASN on April 7, “Initial measurements confirmed the presence of this anomaly in the reactor vessel head and reactor vessel bottom head of the Flamanville EPR.” Safety concerns over the Jaitapur reactor had earlier held up land acquisition in the area, and nuclear activists and the BJP’s ally Shiv Sena continue to oppose the French project in Maharashtra. Asked if a deal was still possible in Paris, an official told The Hindu they were “burning the midnight oil.”
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@Dassault_OnAir Rafale for the IAF.
Big news coming in the evenig.
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What I think is, this is a stop gap and for 126 fighters the negotiations will continue with having impact of this deal on the MMRCA..
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Reuters.
India negotiating to buy 63 Rafale jets from France: Le Monde| Reuters
India is negotiating to buy 63 Rafale fighter jets made in France for 7.2 billion euros ($7.65 billion) with a view to reaching a deal during the Indian prime minister's visit to Paris starting on Friday, French newspaper Le Monde reported.
"The discussions went on through the night and were still going on this morning," Le Monde quoted a source close to the matter as saying.
"The idea is to announce the contract during Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi's visit to Paris on Friday or Saturday," the source added.
Neither Dassault Aviation, which builds the Rafale or the French president's office could immediately be reached for comment. The French defense ministry declined to comment.
Indian officials confirmed that a major push was on to reach an agreement to buy Rafales during Modi’s visit to Paris, with one holding out the prospect of an announcement – if not a final deal – if India is able to secure more favorable terms.
Earlier, the Hindustan Times and one widely-watched defense blogger said that a direct government-to-government contract to buy a smaller number of planes than the 126 originally envisaged under a tender deal one possible outcome because of problems linked to localizing production of most of the planes in India.
Blogger Nitin Ghokale, a veteran defense correspondent, said the talks focused on buying between 60 and 63 combat jets.
"It’s correct that discussions are under way, but a contract announcement is a bit of hype," said one Indian official who requested anonymity. "If things work out and terms are more attractive than earlier, then maybe an understanding."
Modi is in France for a two-day state visit. There is due to be a signing ceremony for various contracts late Friday and a joint news conference with President Francois Hollande at 1800 (12.00 noon EDT).
Talks on the proposed Rafale purchase have been under way for more than three years, trying to resolve differences over pricing and local assembly.
The deal was initially worth $12 billion but is now widely estimated to have jumped to $20 billion, primarily because of the implications of building some of the jets in India.
(Reporting by Leigh Thomas, John Irish in Paris and Frank Jack Daniel, Rupam Jain Nair and Douglas Busvine in New Delhi; Editing by James Regan)
India negotiating to buy 63 Rafale jets from France: Le Monde| Reuters
India is negotiating to buy 63 Rafale fighter jets made in France for 7.2 billion euros ($7.65 billion) with a view to reaching a deal during the Indian prime minister's visit to Paris starting on Friday, French newspaper Le Monde reported.
"The discussions went on through the night and were still going on this morning," Le Monde quoted a source close to the matter as saying.
"The idea is to announce the contract during Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi's visit to Paris on Friday or Saturday," the source added.
Neither Dassault Aviation, which builds the Rafale or the French president's office could immediately be reached for comment. The French defense ministry declined to comment.
Indian officials confirmed that a major push was on to reach an agreement to buy Rafales during Modi’s visit to Paris, with one holding out the prospect of an announcement – if not a final deal – if India is able to secure more favorable terms.
Earlier, the Hindustan Times and one widely-watched defense blogger said that a direct government-to-government contract to buy a smaller number of planes than the 126 originally envisaged under a tender deal one possible outcome because of problems linked to localizing production of most of the planes in India.
Blogger Nitin Ghokale, a veteran defense correspondent, said the talks focused on buying between 60 and 63 combat jets.
"It’s correct that discussions are under way, but a contract announcement is a bit of hype," said one Indian official who requested anonymity. "If things work out and terms are more attractive than earlier, then maybe an understanding."
Modi is in France for a two-day state visit. There is due to be a signing ceremony for various contracts late Friday and a joint news conference with President Francois Hollande at 1800 (12.00 noon EDT).
Talks on the proposed Rafale purchase have been under way for more than three years, trying to resolve differences over pricing and local assembly.
The deal was initially worth $12 billion but is now widely estimated to have jumped to $20 billion, primarily because of the implications of building some of the jets in India.
(Reporting by Leigh Thomas, John Irish in Paris and Frank Jack Daniel, Rupam Jain Nair and Douglas Busvine in New Delhi; Editing by James Regan)
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IAF pushes for direct purchase of 2 Rafale fighter squadrons
Faced with force depletion and rapidly evolving security scenario in Asia, the Indian Air Force is pushing for direct purchase of two squadrons of French Rafale fighters to scale up its dwindling combat capabilities, defence sources said.
The issue has gained momentum with Prime Minister Narendra Modi on Friday starting his two-day trip to France where he is expected to discuss the Rafale fighter deal during meetings with the French leadership including President Francois Hollande.
India requires 42 fighter squadrons urgently to beef up its defence capabilties and protect the borders. But presently IAF has only 34 squadrons with about 18 planes each with frontline Su-30 MKI fighters facing servicibility issues and flying of vintage MiG 21 fighters reduced to 60 per cent.
HT reported on Friday that New Delhi is seriously considering the strategic purchase of up to 40 Rafale fighters through the government-to-government route to boost the IAF's combat readiness.
India had selected Rafale fighters over Typhoons in January, 2012 after the French firm Dassault Aviation emerged as the lowest bidder.
The 2012 deal envisages 18 ready-to-fly Rafales supplied to the IAF by this year, and the remaining 108 to be manufactured under licence in India.
However, the two sides haven't been able to seal a deal yet.
The decision to buy two squadrons directly reflects the urgency to boost the IAF's combat potential, the sources said, adding the IAF's traditional air superiority over Pakistan may be severely diluted if new fighters are not inducted at the earliest.
14 of the IAF squadrons are equipped with vintage MiG-21 and MiG-27 fighter planes.
In an exclusive interview to HT last September, IAF chief Air Chief Marshal Arup Raha had said it was critical to keep the Rafale fighter deal on schedule as the IAF could not afford any more delays.
The IAF had told a Parliamentary panel last year that a "collusive threat" from China and Pakistan would be difficult to tackle, making a strong case for beefing up its force levels.
India is years behind the Chinese military with the Communist neighbour currently outnumbering the country's combat power by a 3:1 ratio. India's hopes to bridge the gap in the next 15-20 years depend on availability of funds.
Raha said at Aero India-2015 in Bengaluru that India had no Plan B if negotiations with Dassault Aviation to buy Rafale fighters collapsed.
He underlined the IAF needed to induct medium multi-role combat aircraft (MMRCA) at the earliest to make up for the drawdown in its fighter fleet.
"We are not working on Plan B. We only have Plan A (Rafale)," Raha said.
He ruled out the possibility of buying more Sukhoi-30 fighters if talks with Dassault Aviation failed. He said the Su-30 and the MMRCA complemented each other but could not replace each other.
- HT Correspondent, Hindustan Times, New Delhi
| - Updated: Apr 10, 2015 16:15 IST
Faced with force depletion and rapidly evolving security scenario in Asia, the Indian Air Force is pushing for direct purchase of two squadrons of French Rafale fighters to scale up its dwindling combat capabilities, defence sources said.
The issue has gained momentum with Prime Minister Narendra Modi on Friday starting his two-day trip to France where he is expected to discuss the Rafale fighter deal during meetings with the French leadership including President Francois Hollande.
India requires 42 fighter squadrons urgently to beef up its defence capabilties and protect the borders. But presently IAF has only 34 squadrons with about 18 planes each with frontline Su-30 MKI fighters facing servicibility issues and flying of vintage MiG 21 fighters reduced to 60 per cent.
HT reported on Friday that New Delhi is seriously considering the strategic purchase of up to 40 Rafale fighters through the government-to-government route to boost the IAF's combat readiness.
India had selected Rafale fighters over Typhoons in January, 2012 after the French firm Dassault Aviation emerged as the lowest bidder.
The 2012 deal envisages 18 ready-to-fly Rafales supplied to the IAF by this year, and the remaining 108 to be manufactured under licence in India.
However, the two sides haven't been able to seal a deal yet.
The decision to buy two squadrons directly reflects the urgency to boost the IAF's combat potential, the sources said, adding the IAF's traditional air superiority over Pakistan may be severely diluted if new fighters are not inducted at the earliest.
14 of the IAF squadrons are equipped with vintage MiG-21 and MiG-27 fighter planes.
In an exclusive interview to HT last September, IAF chief Air Chief Marshal Arup Raha had said it was critical to keep the Rafale fighter deal on schedule as the IAF could not afford any more delays.
The IAF had told a Parliamentary panel last year that a "collusive threat" from China and Pakistan would be difficult to tackle, making a strong case for beefing up its force levels.
India is years behind the Chinese military with the Communist neighbour currently outnumbering the country's combat power by a 3:1 ratio. India's hopes to bridge the gap in the next 15-20 years depend on availability of funds.
Raha said at Aero India-2015 in Bengaluru that India had no Plan B if negotiations with Dassault Aviation to buy Rafale fighters collapsed.
He underlined the IAF needed to induct medium multi-role combat aircraft (MMRCA) at the earliest to make up for the drawdown in its fighter fleet.
"We are not working on Plan B. We only have Plan A (Rafale)," Raha said.
He ruled out the possibility of buying more Sukhoi-30 fighters if talks with Dassault Aviation failed. He said the Su-30 and the MMRCA complemented each other but could not replace each other.
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New Delhi: Prime Minister Narendra Modi is likely to sign a major defence deal with France in order to boost India's military capabilities and infrastructure. A new deal to buy 60 Rafale fighter jets is likely to be announced in a joint press conference by Modi and French President Francois Hollande in Paris on Friday.
Three squadrons of about 60 jets are to be bought in a new contract between the Government of India and Government of France. The deal is worth over $4 billion and it overrides the MMRCA process in which Dasault Rafale was lowest bidder for 126 aircraft. The final signing of the MMRCA deal is yet to take place as India and France have some differences over the final amount.
India is keen to finish the acquisition before 2017 when a large number of old MiG squadrons will have to be phased out.
The deal is worth over $4 billion and it overrides the MMRCA process in which Dasault Rafale was lowest bidder for 126 aircraft.
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Are you sure the full inspection time for M88 is at 4000hours of service? Because that is practically the whole life cycle of it.
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India, France Discuss Purchase of 63 Rafales
By Pierre Tran12:32 p.m. EDT April 10, 2015
PARIS — French and Indian officials are negotiating an off-the-shelf order worth €7.2 billion (US $7.6 billion) for 63 Rafale fighter jets to equip three Indian Air Force squadrons, during a visit by the Indian prime minister, daily Le Monde reported Friday.
"The discussions lasted all night, they are continuing this morning," a source close to the talks said, Le Monde reported. "The idea is to be able to announce this contract during the visit to Paris of Narendra Modi, the Indian prime minister, on Friday or Saturday."
Modi is on a two-day state visit.
The Elysée President's Office and Dassault were not immediately available for comment, and the French Ministry of Defense declined comment.
While the number of aircraft has yet to be finalized, the order would be for Rafales built in France rather than assembled in India with technology transfer. This is available under an option agreed with Dassault in 2012 for an off-the-shelf purchase of 63 "supplementary" units, the afternoon daily reported.
Negotiations have been conducted for three years for a purchase of 126 Rafales, of which 18 would be built in France and 108 in India. If agreed, this off-the-shelf deal would speed up acquisition for the Indian Air Force, the report said, while talks on the larger buy continued.
"The Rafale question is still under discussion and we should be able to move ahead on a mutually agreed basis," Modi told Le Figaro, the daily owned by the Dassault family.
India, France Discuss Purchase of 63 Rafales
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'Keeping IAF's crucial requirements in mind, have asked France to supply us 36 Rafale fighters ASAP.' ~ PM @NarendraModi
Livefist @livefist · 3m3 minutes ago
So @Dassault_OnAir, which was to build 18 Rafales under the MMRCA, now gets to build at least 36. Boost for French jobs. RIP MMRCA?
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Squadron and a half?
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India’s purchase of 36 Rafale jets is separate from ongoing talks on bigger order - defence official (Reuters India)
By Pierre Tran12:32 p.m. EDT April 10, 2015
PARIS — French and Indian officials are negotiating an off-the-shelf order worth €7.2 billion (US $7.6 billion) for 63 Rafale fighter jets to equip three Indian Air Force squadrons, during a visit by the Indian prime minister, daily Le Monde reported Friday.
"The discussions lasted all night, they are continuing this morning," a source close to the talks said, Le Monde reported. "The idea is to be able to announce this contract during the visit to Paris of Narendra Modi, the Indian prime minister, on Friday or Saturday."
Modi is on a two-day state visit.
The Elysée President's Office and Dassault were not immediately available for comment, and the French Ministry of Defense declined comment.
While the number of aircraft has yet to be finalized, the order would be for Rafales built in France rather than assembled in India with technology transfer. This is available under an option agreed with Dassault in 2012 for an off-the-shelf purchase of 63 "supplementary" units, the afternoon daily reported.
Negotiations have been conducted for three years for a purchase of 126 Rafales, of which 18 would be built in France and 108 in India. If agreed, this off-the-shelf deal would speed up acquisition for the Indian Air Force, the report said, while talks on the larger buy continued.
"The Rafale question is still under discussion and we should be able to move ahead on a mutually agreed basis," Modi told Le Figaro, the daily owned by the Dassault family.
India, France Discuss Purchase of 63 Rafales
Livefist @livefist · now10 seconds ago'Keeping IAF's crucial requirements in mind, have asked France to supply us 36 Rafale fighters ASAP.' ~ PM @NarendraModi
Livefist @livefist · 3m3 minutes agoSo @Dassault_OnAir, which was to build 18 Rafales under the MMRCA, now gets to build at least 36. Boost for French jobs. RIP MMRCA?
Livefist @livefist · 7m7 minutes agoSquadron and a half?
Livefist@livefistLivefist retweeted EconomicTimes
Aha.
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India’s purchase of 36 Rafale jets is separate from ongoing talks on bigger order - defence official (Reuters India)
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French people will tell any thing to sell there product,long time back somebody claimed that rafale is capable of doing 11+g pull
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Indians weren't far behind on putting claims on their SU30MKIs
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