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Oh Bhai, NOBODY has EVER taken away voting rights for overseas Pakistanis, as you and many others are claiming here. Any overseas Pakistani can vote according to the defined procedure, which always required traveling to Pakistan to vote, until IK proposed the change. The real, and only, issue here is whether they can vote while sitting abroad, whether at home, or by going to a Pakistani embassy or consulate.
We want to vote in our embassy like the US citizen in any other country, Turkish in Germany, or any other EU nation. They don t travel all the way to their country to vote.....I think you fail to understand this simple equation.
 
We want to vote in our embassy like the US citizen in any other country, Turkish in Germany, or any other EU nation. They don t travel all the way to their country to vote.....I think you fail to understand this simple equation.

I understand the issues. There is no need to make any false claims, that is all. The question is one of procedure, not the right to vote itself.
 
Overseas Pakistanis send money anually to support relatives every year
Every Pakistani abroad supports at least 2 to 3 families' home expenses back home. But people have now options to send money. But at least we don't steal from Pakistan and pile up the money in foreign banks.
 
I understand the issues. There is no need to make any false claims, that is all. The question is one of procedure, not the right to vote itself.
False claim ....seriously.......our voting rights from outside Pakistan....let's make it more simple. It is the law under the constitution of Pakistan. Pakistani can caste a vote in election through their respective consulate or the embassy or any setup point by the embassy staff. The right is revoked intentionally.
 
False claim ....seriously.......our voting rights from outside Pakistan.

This is your original claim compared to your amended claim above:

Middle finger for you and PDM for taking away our voting rights.

It is the law under the constitution of Pakistan. Pakistani can caste a vote in election through their respective consulate or the embassy or any setup point by the embassy staff.

Please quote this law, thanks.
 
This is your original claim compared to your amended claim above:





Please quote this law, thanks.
This is not amended, I have further explained to you.

I hope it will clear all your bugs now and end all your rants ...

"The learned Additional Attorney General for Pakistan has candidly stated that the right to vote of Overseas Pakistanis is enshrined in Article 17 of the Constitution of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan, 1973 (the Constitution)."
 
This is not amended, I have further explained to you.

I hope it will clear all your bugs now and end all your rants ...

"The learned Additional Attorney General for Pakistan has candidly stated that the right to vote of Overseas Pakistanis is enshrined in Article 17 of the Constitution of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan, 1973 (the Constitution)."

Right, this is Article 17:

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Can you please show me how one can go from the above to this claim:

It is the law under the constitution of Pakistan. Pakistani can caste a vote in election through their respective consulate or the embassy or any setup point by the embassy staff.
 
ordinary pakistani brings money from overseas to pakistan. the crooked chor govermint brings money over from pakistan to khalifat west banks. DAR can get money by prostituting his mother.
 
Islam ???????hahahahahahahahaha
جیسے جنرل ضیا نے ریفرنڈم کرایا تھا جس میں ایک سوال تھا۔
کیا آپ ملک میں اسلام چاہتے ہیں؟
اگر آپ اس کا جواب ہاں میں دیتے ہیں اس کا مطلب ہے کہ آپ نے جنرل ضیا الحق کو پانچ سال کے لئے صدر منتخب کر لیا ہے۔

😃

The Prophet Muhammad PBUH himself married a Jewish lady.... Do you also have anything against him?
Forget...
He is as good is Islamic knowledge as molana politics
 
Right, this is Article 17:

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Can you please show me how one can go from the above to this claim:

Voting Is A Fundemental Right, Let’s Make Sure It’s Guaranteed To Everyone, Even Pakistanis Living Abroad​

The bill presented in the National Assembly by the PTI dissident Noor Alam Khan on May 10 is a clear infringement of fundamental right extended to all citizens under article 17 of the constitution of Pakistan​

Usman Khan Yousafzai
by Usman Khan Yousafzai

May 13, 2022

in Analysis

Voting Is A Fundemental Right, Let’s Make Sure It’s Guaranteed To Everyone, Even Pakistanis Living Abroad
The PTI dissent, Noor Alam Khan presented a bill in the National Assembly on May 10 that called for the removal of the right to vote for overseas dual nationals. Introducing the Election Act Amendment Bill, Khan said that he was not against granting voting rights to overseas Pakistanis with single Pakistani citizenship but wanted to withdraw this right from overseas Pakistanis with dual citizenship. He further submitted that overseas Pakistanis are usually not fully aware of issues pertaining to Pakistan, thus not the best voters in the general elections.
The parliament had passed the bill to grant overseas Pakistanis the right to vote in November 2021.
It is universally known that fundamental rights are not the benevolence of any legislature or authority. A human being is born with them. Fundamental right are sacred. They are given to persons regardless of gender, social standing, literacy, knowledge, caste, creed or ethnicity. The right to vote is a fundamental right that is granted to all citizens, including those living overseas.
In the landmark case, Yasmin Akhtar v. Election Commission of Pakistan (1994 SCMR 113/Constitutional Petition 26 of 1993, a five-member panel of the Supreme Court recognized the right of overseas Pakistani to vote in the general election, and ordered the Election Commissioner of Pakistan (ECP) to make all necessary arrangements to include their names in the electoral roll.
This was reiterated in two other judgments — 2013 SCMR 1874 and PLD 2013 Supreme Court 413. The court held in the former that it is imperative to have overseas Pakistanis, without distinction, to vote in the elections for the national as well as provincial assemblies. It directed the ECP and the Ministry of Information to take necessary steps to ensure they are able to exercise their fundamental right to vote. In the latter case, the Supreme Court highlighted that even if an individual is a dual national, he can still exercise his right to vote as the constitutional bar on running for an election cannot be interpreted as a bar on the right to vote.
There can be no doubt that it is a settled principle of law that whenever the parliament passes a law in contradiction to fundamental rights of an individual or a group of individuals then the said legislation is liable to be struck down — under the principles of Judicial Review.
Further, in another case, PLD 2018 Supreme Court 788, the Supreme Court declared that overseas Pakistanis have a right to vote as per article 17 of the constitution and directed the ECP and Nadra chief to complete the pilot projects in view of the election law and make sure that the process of i-voting was foolproof and flawless.
The questionable bill is an infringement of fundamental right recognized under article 17. There can be no doubt that it is a settled principle of law that whenever the parliament passes a law in contradiction to fundamental rights of an individual or a group of individuals then the said legislation is liable to be struck down — under the principles of Judicial Review.
The argument presented — that overseas Pakistanis are not cognizant of problems plagueing Pakistan — is a weak one. The same can be said about many illiterate Pakistanis who cast vote in Pakistan every general election.
Stripping citizens of this right would be an unconstitutional step. Taking away the fundamental right of an individual cannot be allowed. If this unconstitutional step is not challenged today, then the parliament may take away other fundamental rights tomorrow. This brazen abrogation of a fundamental right must be challenged.
The Supreme Court and the legal fraternity of Pakistan are the first and last line of defence in safeguarding the rights of Pakistanis. They must oppose any unconstitutional acts and steps taken by the state.
 

Voting Is A Fundemental Right, Let’s Make Sure It’s Guaranteed To Everyone, Even Pakistanis Living Abroad​

The bill presented in the National Assembly by the PTI dissident Noor Alam Khan on May 10 is a clear infringement of fundamental right extended to all citizens under article 17 of the constitution of Pakistan​

Usman Khan Yousafzai
by Usman Khan Yousafzai

May 13, 2022

in Analysis

Voting Is A Fundemental Right, Let’s Make Sure It’s Guaranteed To Everyone, Even Pakistanis Living Abroad
The PTI dissent, Noor Alam Khan presented a bill in the National Assembly on May 10 that called for the removal of the right to vote for overseas dual nationals. Introducing the Election Act Amendment Bill, Khan said that he was not against granting voting rights to overseas Pakistanis with single Pakistani citizenship but wanted to withdraw this right from overseas Pakistanis with dual citizenship. He further submitted that overseas Pakistanis are usually not fully aware of issues pertaining to Pakistan, thus not the best voters in the general elections.
The parliament had passed the bill to grant overseas Pakistanis the right to vote in November 2021.
It is universally known that fundamental rights are not the benevolence of any legislature or authority. A human being is born with them. Fundamental right are sacred. They are given to persons regardless of gender, social standing, literacy, knowledge, caste, creed or ethnicity. The right to vote is a fundamental right that is granted to all citizens, including those living overseas.
In the landmark case, Yasmin Akhtar v. Election Commission of Pakistan (1994 SCMR 113/Constitutional Petition 26 of 1993, a five-member panel of the Supreme Court recognized the right of overseas Pakistani to vote in the general election, and ordered the Election Commissioner of Pakistan (ECP) to make all necessary arrangements to include their names in the electoral roll.
This was reiterated in two other judgments — 2013 SCMR 1874 and PLD 2013 Supreme Court 413. The court held in the former that it is imperative to have overseas Pakistanis, without distinction, to vote in the elections for the national as well as provincial assemblies. It directed the ECP and the Ministry of Information to take necessary steps to ensure they are able to exercise their fundamental right to vote. In the latter case, the Supreme Court highlighted that even if an individual is a dual national, he can still exercise his right to vote as the constitutional bar on running for an election cannot be interpreted as a bar on the right to vote.

Further, in another case, PLD 2018 Supreme Court 788, the Supreme Court declared that overseas Pakistanis have a right to vote as per article 17 of the constitution and directed the ECP and Nadra chief to complete the pilot projects in view of the election law and make sure that the process of i-voting was foolproof and flawless.
The questionable bill is an infringement of fundamental right recognized under article 17. There can be no doubt that it is a settled principle of law that whenever the parliament passes a law in contradiction to fundamental rights of an individual or a group of individuals then the said legislation is liable to be struck down — under the principles of Judicial Review.
The argument presented — that overseas Pakistanis are not cognizant of problems plagueing Pakistan — is a weak one. The same can be said about many illiterate Pakistanis who cast vote in Pakistan every general election.
Stripping citizens of this right would be an unconstitutional step. Taking away the fundamental right of an individual cannot be allowed. If this unconstitutional step is not challenged today, then the parliament may take away other fundamental rights tomorrow. This brazen abrogation of a fundamental right must be challenged.
The Supreme Court and the legal fraternity of Pakistan are the first and last line of defence in safeguarding the rights of Pakistanis. They must oppose any unconstitutional acts and steps taken by the state.

Oh Bhai, the right to vote was NEVER taken away. All the whataboutery above is mere posturing over the PROCEDURES thereof, and the courts have ALWAYS protected this right to vote for ALL Pakistani citizens.

I will end this discussion here, whether you can accept your claims were patently false, or not. The truth is clear. :D
 
Oh Bhai, the right to vote was NEVER taken away. All the whataboutery above is mere posturing over the PROCEDURES thereof, and the courts have ALWAYS protected this right to vote for ALL Pakistani citizens.

I will end this discussion here, whether you can accept your claims were patently false, or not. The truth is clear. :D
Hazor Sarkar ... you keep on insisting half glass.... and you love to see half glass .... overseas Pakistani fundamental right....... you are stuck on " voting ".
 

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