CV-18 Fujian - Type 003 Aircraft Carrier News & Discussions

[Deino]

Launch: June 2021
Sea Trial: August-September 2022
Commissioning: December 2023
Combat Ready: Early 2025

Of course, these are just my own speculation.

Sorry for again having a different opinion, but this was my reply to one who thought it might be already handed over in to the PLAN in QI/2021

"... .. if you look at the current status it is about a roughly comparable state of completion to the Type 002 'Shandong' in November 2015 (right) or 1 1/2 years away from launch. And both vessels are vastly different in size, complexity and the way they are built. "

https://twitter.com/x/status/1332963904817946624

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

Sorry for again having a different opinion, but this was my reply to one who thought it might be already handed over in to the PLAN in QI/2021

"... .. if you look at the current status it is about a roughly comparable state of completion to the Type 002 'Shandong' in November 2015 (right) or 1 1/2 years away from launch. And both vessels are vastly different in size, complexity and the way they are built. "

https://twitter.com/x/status/1332963904817946624

As I said before, let's see how fast they can pull this thing out.

The aerial pic in next month should confirm whether the ship's main hull has been welded together into one piece.

After that, the propulsion compartment should be soon sealed with more modules being added above the waterline section.

By the end of Q1 2021, the wave piercing bulbous bow module should be joined with the main hull. By then, expect the total length of the ship to reach about 330 meters.

 

[retaxis]

shouldn't we be building drone carriers as well? Would be useful to have drone carriers in Africa helping friendly african countries defeat their separatism and terrorism by bombing the terrorists.

 

[Beidou2020]

As I said before, let's see how fast they can pull this thing out.

The aerial pic in next month should confirm whether the ship's main hull has been welded together into one piece.

After that, the propulsion compartment should be soon sealed with more modules being added above the waterline section.

By the end of Q1 2021, the wave piercing bulbous bow module should be joined with the main hull. By then, expect the total length of the ship to reach about 330 meters.

What do you think will be the tonnage of the Type 003?

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

What do you think will be the tonnage of the Type 003?

About 108,000 metric tons full load with the current size estimation and block coefficient.

The Ford class is around 102,000 metric tons full load.

 

[Beidou2020]

About 108,000 metric tons full load with the current size estimation and block coefficient.

The Ford class is around 102,000 metric tons full load.

WOW. Amazing. So the 85,000 tons prediction was bogus?

I’m happy with anything above 100,000 tons.

Do you think it will have EM catapults and nuclear powered?

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

WOW. Amazing. So the 85,000 tons prediction was bogus?

I’m happy with anything above 100,000 tons.

Do you think it will have EM catapults and nuclear powered?

Even it is 85,000 tons, it will also be nuclear, because China doesn't have any suitable conventional propulsion for a carrier that weighs over 80,000 tons.

The Type 003 got a more robust waterline than the Ford class, so even both carrier got the same dimension, then the Type 003 would still have several thousands tons of leverage.

 

[Figaro]

Even it is 85,000 tons, it will also be nuclear, because China doesn't have any suitable conventional propulsion for a carrier that weighs over 80,000 tons.

The Type 003 got a more robust waterline than the Ford class, so even both carrier got the same dimension, then the Type 003 would still have several thousands tons of leverage.

It makes no sense for the 003 not to be nuclear at this point ... that is, I would be extremely surprised if it wasn't at this stage.

 

[Daniel808]

shouldn't we be building drone carriers as well? Would be useful to have drone carriers in Africa helping friendly african countries defeat their separatism and terrorism by bombing the terrorists.

They already have that plan.
At this moment, they Develop Type 076 LHA-UCAV Carrier

About 108,000 metric tons full load with the current size estimation and block coefficient.

The Ford class is around 102,000 metric tons full load.

In the next few months, we will know the tonnage of this ship. Hopefully, your prediction is right

Even it is 85,000 tons, it will also be nuclear, because China doesn't have any suitable conventional propulsion for a carrier that weighs over 80,000 tons.

The Type 003 got a more robust waterline than the Ford class, so even both carrier got the same dimension, then the Type 003 would still have several thousands tons of leverage.

What if they add more QC-280 for this Type 003 AC?

 

[Beidou2020]

Even it is 85,000 tons, it will also be nuclear, because China doesn't have any suitable conventional propulsion for a carrier that weighs over 80,000 tons.

The Type 003 got a more robust waterline than the Ford class, so even both carrier got the same dimension, then the Type 003 would still have several thousands tons of leverage.

Anything under 100,000 tons and non-nuclear would be a huge disappointment.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

It makes no sense for the 003 not to be nuclear at this point ... that is, I would be extremely surprised if it wasn't at this stage.

Some people have already spotted the radiation shielding boxes in the shipyard.

So it is quite self-explanatory.

In the next few months, we will know the tonnage of this ship. Hopefully, your prediction is right



What if they add more QC-280 for this Type 003 AC?

China doesn't have the suitable boilers to power the Type 003, then the gas turbines wouldn't be better choice either.

It looks like the gas turbines would be ideal propulsion for the Type 076.

The Type 003 will definitely use the military version of the ACP100 reactor.

Anything under 100,000 tons and non-nuclear would be a huge disappointment.

Don't worry, the boilers of the Kitty Hawk class is theoretically maximum for a conventional powered carrier.

If we use these boilers to power the Type 003, then it can only barely propel the ship at 30 knots, but everything else like the radars and catapults would suffer a power failure.

Unless the PLAN is mentally retarded, then there is no point to make the Type 003 conventional powered.

 

[samsara]

@ChineseTiger1986
Look at how your most seemingly affirmative or even bold statements on the 003 has been causing some fascinating dynamic controversy even at the adjacent, prof. forum well, we all gonna see which part matches what you said, hopefully by some time in this December. Ha ha ha you indeed take some "risk" to say out aloud some notions in advance Most folks will be more cautious and opt to play safe, stick to the mainstream notion, or simply wait n see and avoid engaging in such "risk" putting his credibility on the table...

Let's keep a note for future ref upon these matters as time goes by,,,, hopefully by coming Dec things are cleared out.

 

[Figaro]

@ChineseTiger1986
Look at how your most seemingly affirmative or even bold statements on the 003 has been causing some fascinating dynamic controversy even at the adjacent, prof. forum well, we all gonna see which part matches what you said, hopefully by some time in this December. Ha ha ha you indeed take some "risk" to say out aloud some notions in advance. Most folks will be more cautious and opt to stick to the mainstream notion and avoid such "risk" putting his credibility on the table...

Let's keep a note for future ref upon these matters as time goes by,,,, hopefully by coming Dec things are cleared out.
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People are getting triggered on SDF as usual ... why are some people so sensitive and think everything coming out of PDF is inaccurate?

 

[Beidou2020]

People are getting triggered on SDF as usual ... why are some people so sensitive and think everything coming out of PDF is inaccurate?

White man’s insecurity.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

@ChineseTiger1986
Look at how your most seemingly affirmative or even bold statements on the 003 has been causing some fascinating dynamic controversy even at the adjacent, prof. forum well, we all gonna see which part matches what you said, hopefully by some time in this December. Ha ha ha you indeed take some "risk" to say out aloud some notions in advance Most folks will be more cautious and opt to play safe, stick to the mainstream notion, or simply wait n see and avoid engaging in such "risk" putting his credibility on the table...

Let's keep a note for future ref upon these matters as time goes by,,,, hopefully by coming Dec things are cleared out.
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Right now, the mainstream notion about the Type 003 cannot hold ground against reality.

The coming December aerial pic will probably nail everything once and for all.

People are getting triggered on SDF as usual ... why are some people so sensitive and think everything coming out of PDF is inaccurate?

Most people still don't have a clue about the layout of an aircraft carrier.

Right now, the Type 003 is sitting there around 295 meters without the wave piercing bow and the bulbous bow.

The final module to conclude its total length is going to be the bulbous bow module, which contains both wave piercing bow and bulbous bow.

White man’s insecurity.

If the Type 003 can hold up its size against the Ford class, then it is definitely going to outweigh it by a couple of thousands tonnes.

The Ford class got its waterline being shrunk significantly in its stern section which will cause it to lose several thousands tonnes of displacement against the Type 003.