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Turkey’s 1st indigenous Microprocessor unveiled




Turkiye's first indigenously produced microprocessor, named CAKIL in the International Defense Industry Fair (IDEF 2021 )

The microprocessor was developed by the Scientific and Technological Research Council of Turkey's (TUBITAK) Informatics and Information Security Research Center (BILGEM) and the country's defense giant ASELSAN

Countries do not give these processors to other countries, especially for use in the defense industry

Turkey’s 1st indigenous microprocessor unveiled

Microprocessor, Cakil, to help reduce dependence on import of such products, technology minister says - Anadolu Ajansı

www.aa.com.tr

 

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Turkey’s 1st indigenous Microprocessor unveiled




Turkiye's first indigenously produced microprocessor, named CAKIL in the International Defense Industry Fair (IDEF 2021 )

The microprocessor was developed by the Scientific and Technological Research Council of Turkey's (TUBITAK) Informatics and Information Security Research Center (BILGEM) and the country's defense giant ASELSAN

Countries do not give these processors to other countries, especially for use in the defense industry
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Turkey’s 1st indigenous microprocessor unveiled

Microprocessor, Cakil, to help reduce dependence on import of such products, technology minister says - Anadolu Ajansı

www.aa.com.tr

Congratulation to Turkish engineers. This makes Turkey the second country in the middle east to have developed her own microprocessor. The middle east first microprocessor was developed in Iran in 2006 by Pars semiconductors and named "TACHRA". In 2019 iran developed her first secure Microcontroller called "SABA".

Iran's Pars Semiconductor develops microprocessor
7/26/06
TEHRAN (Fars News Agency)- Iran has designed and produced a 32 bit computer microprocessor inside the country for the first time.

The computer microprocessor called Aristo has been manufactured by Iranian researchers and engineers at Pars Semiconductor Company with the supports the company has received from the Modern Industries Center of the ministry of Industries.

Designed and manufactured in conformity with SPARC processors architecture, Aristo stands to the international standards and can well compete with similar processors existing in the market.

TACHRA Development board
The newly Iran-made computer microprocessor can be used in communications projects, auto-manufacturing industry, industrial automation, robotic systems and artificial intelligence, computer and data transfer networks, etc.

Iran's SABA Microcontroller

 

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Congratulation to Turkish engineers. This makes Turkey the second country in the middle east to have developed her own microprocessor. The middle east first microprocessor was developed in Iran in 2006 by Pars semiconductors and named "TACHRA". In 2019 iran developed her first secure Microcontroller called "SABA".

Iran's Pars Semiconductor develops microprocessor
7/26/06
TEHRAN (Fars News Agency)- Iran has designed and produced a 32 bit computer microprocessor inside the country for the first time.
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The computer microprocessor called Aristo has been manufactured by Iranian researchers and engineers at Pars Semiconductor Company with the supports the company has received from the Modern Industries Center of the ministry of Industries.

Designed and manufactured in conformity with SPARC processors architecture, Aristo stands to the international standards and can well compete with similar processors existing in the market.
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TACHRA Development board
The newly Iran-made computer microprocessor can be used in communications projects, auto-manufacturing industry, industrial automation, robotic systems and artificial intelligence, computer and data transfer networks, etc.

Iran's SABA Microcontroller

that's very sad as Saba semiconductor get wiped out of the page of time because the government and military and every one else didn't want their product and rather buy the of the shelf product from China and Russia.
about Saba microcontroller , do you have any news of it being produced in industrial scale ? no and I'm sure you'll find the designer working at foreign companies , just wait some year.

 

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Turkiye's first indigenously produced microprocessor, named CAKIL

Congratulation to Turkish engineers. This makes Turkey the second country in the middle east to have developed her own microprocessor.

1. This tweet says that the Cakil processor is just an implementation of the open source, Western-origin RISC-V architecture. This is just like producing a variant of the open source Linux kernel / OS / software ecosystem. So nothing great. Many countries can do it. The challenge would have been to have an actually new Turkish processor designed from scratch with its own instruction set and other things.

2. But yes it may be that this Cakil RISC-V processor is fabricated in Turkey in some government / military fab.

 

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1. This tweet says that the Cakil processor is just an implementation of the open source, Western-origin RISC-V architecture. This is just like producing a variant of the open source Linux kernel / OS / software ecosystem. So nothing great. Many countries can do it. The challenge would have been to have an actually new Turkish processor designed from scratch with its own instruction set and other things.

Who cares about architecture ? nobody

CAKIL processor has been developed by ASELSAN and TUBITAK-BILGEM
The license and sales rights are belong to Turkey,
so CAKIL processor is one of the most strategic technological products to be used in domestic weapon systems and electric Cars


single core
400MHZ clock speed
27 mm2 chip area
65 nm manufacturing technology
64-bit
1.8W power consumption

National Processor ÇAKIL is expected to have a 4-core architecture with a speed of 800 MHZ, a power consumption of 10 W, in near future

 

[jamahir]

Who cares about architecture ? nobody

Those who care about such details will object to the use of the word Indigenous.

It is not.

CAKIL processor has been developed by ASELSAN and TUBITAK-BILGEM
The license and sales rights are belong to Turkey

That must be through the open source license for the RISC-V architecture, similar to those for the Linux OS where companies like Red Hat and SUSE implement, modify, customize and sell Linux to their customers. So Turkey cannot claim rights to the RISC-V architecture but only to its physical implementation for sale.

so CAKIL processor is one of the most strategic technological products to be used in domestic weapon systems

National Processor ÇAKIL is expected to have a 4-core architecture with a speed of 800 MHZ, a power consumption of 10 W, in the future

Good.

 

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Those who care about such details will object to the use of the word Indigenous.

It is not.

That must be through the open source license for the RISC-V architecture, similar to those for the Linux OS where companies like Red Hat and SUSE implement, modify, customize and sell Linux to their customers.

not license for the RISC-V architecture

CAKIL Turkey's first domestic production and national designed processor



What then are Apple's A9, Huawei's Kirin processors ?

These processors are not original architecture, they are Cortex processors. In other words, they are the processor models that the ARM company has designed and given permission to manufacture


With RISC, it is the architecture in which ARM Cortex processors are produced. At this point, An international consortium of many countries has decided to develop the RISC-V project

so A technology that belongs to no one and belongs to everyone is being designed

 

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not license for the RISC-V architecture

From the FAQ page of RISC-V website :

The RISC-V ISA is free and open with a permissive license for use by anyone in all types of implementations. Designers are free to develop proprietary or open source implementations for commercial or other exploitations as they see fit. RISC-V International encourages all implementations that are compliant to the specifications.

Note that the use of the RISC-V trademark requires a license which is granted to members of RISC-V International for use with compliant implementations. The RISC-V specification is based around a structure which allows flexibility with modular extensions and additional custom instructions/extensions. If an implementation was based on the RISC-V specification but includes modifications beyond this framework, then it cannot be referenced as RISC-V.

Is there something else you meant ?

CAKIL Turkey's first domestic production and national designed processor

The underlined is what I meant in point# 2 in post# 454.

What then are Apple's A9, Huawei's Kirin processors ?

These processors are not original architecture, they are Cortex processors. In other words, they are the processor models that the ARM company has designed and given permission to manufacture

Agreed.

 

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Is there something else you meant ?

The license and sales rights are belong to Turkey

I am saying again ,
An international consortium of many countries has decided to develop the RISC-V project

so A technology that belongs to no one and belongs to everyone is being designed

By joining this consortium, Turkey became one of the leading participants of the microprocessor technology produced by ASELSAN and TUBITAK-BİLGEM


and CAKIL processor is one of the most strategic technological products to be used in domestic weapon systems and electric Cars

Now we have our own processor to be not dependent on anyone

 

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The license and sales rights are belong to Turkey

Sure but only as long as Turkey doesn't claim the base architecture / specification to be its own.

I am saying again ,
An international consortium of many countries has decided to develop the RISC-V project

so A technology that belongs to no one and belongs to everyone is being designed

By joining this consortium, Turkey became one of the leading participants of the microprocessor technology produced by ASELSAN and TUBITAK-BİLGEM

1. I agree it is a technology which belongs to no one and everyone. Just like Linux.

2. There is no select consortium of world governments who are permitted to implement the RISC-V. Anyone can do so, even you. As per this article from 2021 April there are commercial companies who are doing that :

Nvidia has used RISC-V architecture in its graphics processing unit (GPU) chips even while working to acquire Arm architecture owner Arm Holdings. Intel may also help accelerate the adoption of RISC-V through its expanding foundry business that aims to manufacture chips for other companies based on the x86, ARM, or RISC-V architectures.

China has also stood out as a major adopter of RISC-V, despite most Chinese tech companies still relying heavily upon Arm and x86 architectures. In 2019, Alibaba revealed it had developed the XuanTie 910 processor based on the RISC-V architecture through its semiconductor subsidiary Pingtou Ge (“Flat-head Brother / Honey Badger”).

technology produced by ASELSAN and TUBITAK-BİLGEM

and CAKIL processor is one of the most strategic technological products to be used in domestic weapon systems and electric Cars

Now we have our own processor to be not dependent on anyone

I have agreed before that its implementation may well be being done in fabrication plants in Turkey.

 

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Congratulation to Turkish engineers. This makes Turkey the second country in the middle east to have developed her own microprocessor. The middle east first microprocessor was developed in Iran in 2006 by Pars semiconductors and named "TACHRA". In 2019 iran developed her first secure Microcontroller called "SABA".

Iran's Pars Semiconductor develops microprocessor
7/26/06
TEHRAN (Fars News Agency)- Iran has designed and produced a 32 bit computer microprocessor inside the country for the first time.
View attachment 773683
The computer microprocessor called Aristo has been manufactured by Iranian researchers and engineers at Pars Semiconductor Company with the supports the company has received from the Modern Industries Center of the ministry of Industries.

Designed and manufactured in conformity with SPARC processors architecture, Aristo stands to the international standards and can well compete with similar processors existing in the market.
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TACHRA Development board
The newly Iran-made computer microprocessor can be used in communications projects, auto-manufacturing industry, industrial automation, robotic systems and artificial intelligence, computer and data transfer networks, etc.

Iran's SABA Microcontroller

I have seen liberal Pakistanis trash Iran for being "backward" while their own country can't even produce a simple PC case.

 

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that's very sad as Saba semiconductor get wiped out of the page of time because the government and military and every one else didn't want their product and rather buy the of the shelf product from China and Russia.
about Saba microcontroller , do you have any news of it being produced in industrial scale ? no and I'm sure you'll find the designer working at foreign companies , just wait some year.

Having used some of similar Microprocessors and microcontrollers in my designs I can speculate that "SABA" microcontroller being "secure" was developed for Military use. I am not surprised that you will not hear more of it ..gone to the black box!. Microcontrollers have huge usage in military and automotive industries but I can understand if military does not want this controller (or something similar) to be available for commercial use.

I doubt very much if either Iran or Turkey have the necessary nm Fab lines to actually produce the physical chips in house considering the density (no of transistors) used in such high end micros (unless Fabs are also exclusive military and not known to public). Most likely they will use third party Fab lines to produce the chips.

 

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Iran Unveils 3D Phased array Air Defence Radar (ALBORZ)​

• 450 KM detection range​
• 300 simultaneous target detection​
• Uses a long wave-guide, to a separate cabin which houses the transmitter​
• Includes "Borhan" the new low level air defense command center which receives and analyzes the data from all sources and then sends them to the highest levels of command .​

https://twitter.com/x/status/1432936069801168898

 

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I have seen liberal Pakistanis trash Iran for being "backward" while their own country can't even produce a simple PC case.

Liberal mind
Men with beards as ruling class - check
Backwards- check

there's nothing deep to it

 

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Liberal mind
Men with beards as ruling class - check
Backwards- check

there's nothing deep to it

Hi..i know you mean well but this post can be interpreted the wrong way...in any case we have tried to keep this particular thread away from politics and keep it as much as possible technical..
My best regards.