Culture wars: Pakistan to demand 4,500 old artefact back from India

[Max]

, it makes a mockery out of Indians.

There is no India without Indus, call them gangalander or bharti..

 

[Qutb-ud-din Aybak]

India is the rightful owner of all the artifacts found before 1947 on the subcontinent.

no sir. anything found on the area now under pakistan control is pakistan's property.

in the old time sindh i.e. current pakistan and hindh current india were different regions.
in hadiths the sindh and hindh have been shown as different countries.

 

[ito]

no sir. anything found on the area now under pakistan control is pakistan's property.

in the old time sindh i.e. current pakistan and hindh current india were different regions.
in hadiths the sindh and hindh have been shown as different countries.

Hinduism itself was found in areas that is now called Pakistan...

International laws are clear...you can always refer them...Anything that is found before 1947 belongs to India.

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

Then the Pashtuns are certainly not the people of IVC, they can't invade their own land, can they?

So why did you mention Pashtun kings in the first place ? You too stupid ..?
As for Pashtuns not being people of IVC.. Than how come IVC spreads even to parts of southern afghanistan and cover all Pashtun areas? even FATA?

BTW, Mughals were Pashtuns?

No.. But Mughals were allied with Panjabi Chiefs and zamindars and later they allied with Pashtuns aswell..

Oh yes, barring some expected regional differences, we share the same spiritual philosophies that even IVC people used to share.

lol and what are those philosophies.?

Buddhism itself is an offshoot of Hinduism and shares the same dharmik philosophies. Besides, Buddhism came much later after the desertion of IVC. In fact, idols of Hindu gods were unearthed from IVC.

Buddhists were slaughtered and prosecuted by Hindus and none other ..

And "Infact" the religion of IVC isn't known yet .. Just because of figurines of a horned dude you can't claim them to be Hindu ..
They also buried their dead.
They weren't veggies and much more..

And oh they didn't give a damn about cows either .. They used it just as an animal not a holy cow.

See, I have no problem to share the legacy of all of ancient Indian civilization including IVC with Pakistanis, but first Pakistanis have to take a stand on who they are primarily. They cannot be the 500 years (or 1000 years, as Pakistanis claim) of rulers of Hindus, 'proud murderers' of Hindus in Hindukush, the heroic invaders and conquerors, etc. AND the people of IVC at the same time. But can Pakistanis accept that largely they were not the conquerors but the conquered who later made heroes out of their conquerors?

Bengalis must be one the most retarded people on the planet .... Your post doesn't make sense .. You know why? Because it's shyt written by some monkey harbouring hatred and a really tiny brain even smaller than monkeys..

But isn't taking pride in the genocide of their own ancestors, as we see in case of Hindukush, is simply deplorable?

Funny .. Actually the Pashtuns,Baloch etc ruled you clown from Delhi and even Bengal ... While Panjab was a Muslim state and for the most part allied with Pashtun or part of the same country...

For example when Prithvi fought and lost against ghori .. The rajhistani and Prithvi himself was taken as a slave...

You tiny Bengalis were again ruled by invaders and I'm damn sure taken on a joy ride over the Hindukush or to till land or join harems in places like Dir or Zhob.

 

[VCheng]

Hmm elaborate

How does Pakistan plan to establish legal ownership of said artifact?

 

[Sine Nomine]

Great now ivc became Buddhist... Hey dummy.. Budda was born in around 400BCE and IVC was almost finished by 1700BCE (with your knowledge you might say 1700bce was after the 400bce but it is actually counted in reverse) I pity your education bro!!

IVC still continues..

But isn't taking pride in the genocide of their own ancestors, as we see in case of Hindukush, is simply deplorable?

Dada,Hindukush has nothing to do with killing of hindus and above all hindu,sindhu and khorsan are geographical terms.Himdukush that word for me is story of all those brave inhabitants of east bank of river sindh,who tried to defeat those mighty mountain ranges and sometimes crossed into CA and most of times died.That's why it's name is hindukush.

So why did you mention Pashtun kings in the first place ? You too stupid ..?

Our bengali babu has forgotten that most of IVC areas are 50% concentrated on those areas which are Pashtuns.Bamiyan by no chance has got any Marhatas or Bengalis.

 

[Braith]

It will be safe in India....

Here in Pakistan, the corrupt Museum officials are involved in selling artifacts and historical coins to black market......also there was recent news that smuggled statues of Gandhara civilization from Swat and Peshawar were caught in Karachi. etc etc etc....

Moreover we have religious nutjobs who might attack Museums and destroy these statues , to earn the title of 'but-shikan'

 

[dray]

None of the Pakistanis here coming clean on whether they are the conquering invaders from some foreign land, or the conquered local people with ancestral connection to the people of IVC.

I am open to both the stands, but Pakistanis should decide first.

 

[Braith]

Funny .. Actually the Pashtuns, Baloch etc ruled you clown from Delhi and even Bengal ... While Panjab was a Muslim state and for the most part allied with Pashtun or part of the same country...

You tiny Bengalis were again ruled by invaders and I'm damn sure taken on a joy ride over the Hindukush or to till land or join harems in places like Dir or Zhob.

Pashtuns did rule Delhi, but i have not have read about any Baloch sitting on Delhi throne. There were petty Baloch barons in 18th century in Hariyana but they were subordinates of Mughals and even remained proteges of a Pashtun Najib-ud-duala who was dictator of Delhi for 10 years. http://www.barmazid.com/2016/08/baloch-proteges-of-najib-khan-yousafzai_4.html

Moreover Punjab was not "allied" with Pashtun.......it was one of the province of Khilji, Lodi, Sur and Durrani empires...and on some occasions some Punjabi clans resisted Pashtun domination and rule over them. For example Ghakkars fought against Sher Shah and Islam Shah. And Khokars under Jasrath were rival to Bahlol Lodi , in which the latter emerged as victor.

Moreover its very sinister of you to use word "tiny" for Bengalis and try to direct the resulting hate from them against Pashtuns by saying that Bengali women might have ended up in some harem of Zhob ( a Pashtun district) and Dir (a Pashtun district). Bengal under Sher Shah and Islam Shah, was happy and prosperous..........and Sultan Suleiman Karrani's reign was also great, Bengalis were happy under their rule.....Afghans/Pashtuns were not mean to indigenous Bengalis. This is evident from the fact Bengalis and Afghans jointly resisted Mughal rule in Bengal as late as 1614 AD.

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

Pashtuns did rule Delhi, but i have not have read about any Baloch sitting on Delhi throne. There were petty Baloch barons in 18th century in Hariyana but they were subordinates of Mughals and even remained proteges of a Pashtun Najib-ud-duala who was dictator of Delhi for 10 years. http://www.barmazid.com/2016/08/baloch-proteges-of-najib-khan-yousafzai_4.html

Moreover Punjab was not "allied" with Pashtun.......it was one of the province of Khilji, Lodi, Sur and Durrani empires...and on some occasions some Punjabi clans resisted Pashtun domination and rule over them. For example Ghakkars fought against Sher Shah and Islam Shah. And Khokars under Jasrath were rival to Bahlol Lodi , in which the latter emerged as victor.

Moreover its very sinister of you to use word "tiny" for Bengalis and try to direct the resulting hate from them against Pashtuns by saying that Bengali women might have ended up in some harem of Zhob ( a Pashtun district) and Dir (a Pashtun district). Bengal under Sher Shah and Islam Shah, was happy and prosperous..........and Sultan Suleiman Karrani's reign was also great, Bengalis were happy under their rule.....Afghans/Pashtuns were not mean to indigenous Bengalis. This is evident from the fact Bengalis and Afghans jointly resisted Mughal rule in Bengal as late as 1614 AD.

"slow claps" ...

Now piss off... this thread is about IVC not 15th century...

And do try to read my posts you dimwit.

 

[Braith]

"slow claps" ...

Now piss off... this thread is about IVC not 15th century...

And do try to read my posts you dimwit.

I have already posted my views on the topic........

It will be safe in India....

Here in Pakistan, the corrupt Museum officials are involved in selling artifacts and historical coins to black market......also there was recent news that smuggled statues of Gandhara civilization from Swat and Peshawar were caught in Karachi. etc etc etc....

Moreover we have religious nutjobs who might attack Museums and destroy these statues , to earn the title of 'but-shikan'

P.S: Dont forget to read my signature

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

I have already posted my views on the topic........



P.S: Dont forget to read my signature

Do you seriously think i give a shyt about some turd whose not even loyal to his kin or the country? a pathological liar who would if needed even change his "waldiat" ?

Now piss off and come back with another fake id.

 

[Braith]

Do you seriously think i give a shyt about some turd whose not even loyal to his kin or the country? a pathological liar who would if needed even change his "waldiat" ?

Now piss off and come back with another fake id.

My motherland is Lakki Marwat, i am loyal to it.

 

[Qutb-ud-din Aybak]

Hinduism itself was found in areas that is now called Pakistan...

International laws are clear...you can always refer them...Anything that is found before 1947 belongs to India.

it was found in the area now belonging to pakistan. it would be given to pakistan. law is clear. before 1947 it was british colony. there was no india or pakistan. before that it was hindustan. not any india or pakistan.

 

[coffee_cup]

None of the Pakistanis here coming clean on whether they are the conquering invaders from some foreign land, or the conquered local people with ancestral connection to the people of IVC.

I am open to both the stands, but Pakistanis should decide first.

Tell me what is the fake country called "India"?

What is it?

A collection of dozens of independent states, forced by British to form a new country.
This is a mere space, nothing more. Just a question of time, till all those demanding independence get there.

Now tell me what is India?

Maharastra?

Gujrat?

Punjab (Khalistan)? And they don't want to be with you.

Junagardh? Hyedabad? Nagaland?


WHAT IS INDIA?