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Crisis May Scuttle Japanese Stealth Fighter:china:

The full implications for Japan of Friday's devastating earthquake and tsunami, as well as the ongoing problems at the Fukushima nuclear plant, remain unclear. But an ambitious and likely pricey military programme could be one of the first political casualties as Tokyo weighs the cost of recovery.

In the early 2000s the forerunner to the Japanese Defense Ministry began developing a new, stealthy fighter jet under the auspices of the Advanced Technologies Demonstrator programme. The resulting fighter is known by its nickname ‘Shinshin,’ or ‘Spirit.’

The angular Shinshin, intended to counter China's rising air force, was a backup to Japan's planned purchase of American-made F-22 fighters. When US lawmakers blocked export of the F-22, the Shinshin programme took on more urgency. Since 2009, Tokyo has reportedly invested roughly $500 million in the plane's development, with the apparent goal of replacing all of Japan's current fleet of 200 F-15 fighters sometime after 2016.

But Shinshin development and production could ultimately cost as much as $100 billion, the Defense Ministry told AP. By comparison, the F-22 cost Washington around $60 billion for 187 airplanes. The Shinshin topline might seem exorbitant, but in fact the $100 billion estimate is perfectly reasonable. Owing to high material costs, small production figures and legal prohibitions against arms exports, Japan historically pays at least twice as much for a given weapon system than the United States. The San Francisco-based New Pacific Institute recently published an excellent survey of this cost differential.

All over the world in recent years, fighter programmes have been among the first to be curtailed following expensive natural disasters or domestic unrest. Brazil delayed its planned fighter purchase following January's lethal mudslides. When pro-democracy riots spread to Iraq this spring, Baghdad canceled an initiative to buy F-16s from the United States in order to devote more resources to social programmes. When the cost of tsunami recovery becomes clear, Tokyo might discover it can’t justify a $100 billion investment in airplanes.

This is especially the case considering the availability of alternatives. While the Shinshin could give the Japanese air force an edge over regional competitors such as Russia and China, upgraded models of today's F-15s would probably suffice for continued parity. US manufacturer Boeing has offered a moderately stealthy F-15 model, called the ‘Silent Eagle,’ for an estimated $100 million per copy. Even if Japan demanded local production of the new F-15, therefore raising its price, the Silent Eagle could be had for half the cost of the Shinshin.

From : Crisis May Scuttle Japan Fighter | Flashpoints

This Is Good for China now Japan cannot challenge China militarily!:china::yahoo::smokin:
 
Crisis May Scuttle Japanese Stealth Fighter:china:

The full implications for Japan of Friday's devastating earthquake and tsunami, as well as the ongoing problems at the Fukushima nuclear plant, remain unclear. But an ambitious and likely pricey military programme could be one of the first political casualties as Tokyo weighs the cost of recovery.

In the early 2000s the forerunner to the Japanese Defense Ministry began developing a new, stealthy fighter jet under the auspices of the Advanced Technologies Demonstrator programme. The resulting fighter is known by its nickname ‘Shinshin,’ or ‘Spirit.’

The angular Shinshin, intended to counter China's rising air force, was a backup to Japan's planned purchase of American-made F-22 fighters. When US lawmakers blocked export of the F-22, the Shinshin programme took on more urgency. Since 2009, Tokyo has reportedly invested roughly $500 million in the plane's development, with the apparent goal of replacing all of Japan's current fleet of 200 F-15 fighters sometime after 2016.

But Shinshin development and production could ultimately cost as much as $100 billion, the Defense Ministry told AP. By comparison, the F-22 cost Washington around $60 billion for 187 airplanes. The Shinshin topline might seem exorbitant, but in fact the $100 billion estimate is perfectly reasonable. Owing to high material costs, small production figures and legal prohibitions against arms exports, Japan historically pays at least twice as much for a given weapon system than the United States. The San Francisco-based New Pacific Institute recently published an excellent survey of this cost differential.

All over the world in recent years, fighter programmes have been among the first to be curtailed following expensive natural disasters or domestic unrest. Brazil delayed its planned fighter purchase following January's lethal mudslides. When pro-democracy riots spread to Iraq this spring, Baghdad canceled an initiative to buy F-16s from the United States in order to devote more resources to social programmes. When the cost of tsunami recovery becomes clear, Tokyo might discover it can’t justify a $100 billion investment in airplanes.

This is especially the case considering the availability of alternatives. While the Shinshin could give the Japanese air force an edge over regional competitors such as Russia and China, upgraded models of today's F-15s would probably suffice for continued parity. US manufacturer Boeing has offered a moderately stealthy F-15 model, called the ‘Silent Eagle,’ for an estimated $100 million per copy. Even if Japan demanded local production of the new F-15, therefore raising its price, the Silent Eagle could be had for half the cost of the Shinshin.

From : Crisis May Scuttle Japan Fighter | Flashpoints

This Is Good for China now Japan cannot challenge China militarily!:china::yahoo::smokin:

Japan is a self defence force with a large US military presence, basically Japan is a US military base that freely operates everything from aircraft carriers to F-22's.
 
no stealth fighter from japan can compete with F-35, F-22, US wont let it happen... it has nothing to do with the earthquake.
 
Shinshin is not a Stealth Fighter, they just gonna buy F-35

U.S won't allow japanese arm industry grow, it will beat them like toyota
 
First Wow coward who post Chineese flags and prais around a shotty article imbraceing a tragedy that kills thousands and destroyed the hard work of many. If there Is a god may he bless the japaneese people
Second the f35 and f22 with the classified speed and weapons will be more than enough to rip j 20s from the sky
 
It is not a laughing matter, but it is pretty much a reality for the Japanese government. The destruction is simply too great to be ignored and it is crucial for the government to play its cards right and put the country and its people needs before this stealth fighter. A couple of day ago, it was estimated that they will need to spend at least $180 billion to reconstruct and repair the damage left by the tsunami.
 
great news.

Japanese will also be forced to cancel their secret nuclear program and secret ballistic missile program as well.

The japanese median age is high. Eventually they will be forced to hire Koreans and Chinese to work for their companies and we will know all their dirty secrets.
 
I'm American and on an ipone. I brought the j20 into the picture because that's what the gentleman praising the article was hinting at. Quixotic are the hopes of Chineese hard power when people are starving all over there mainland.
 
I'm American and on an ipone. I brought the j20 into the picture because that's what the gentleman praising the article was hinting at. Quixotic are the hopes of Chineese hard power when people are starving all over there mainland.

You're fooling no one here pal. I've seen enough suicide trolls. Who the heck starts their first post on a iphone?
 
Well, the ATD-X is meant to be a technology demonstrator anyways (not a production fighter), so it doesn't make much of a difference.
 
why bring j-20 in?

It's a privilege to have our J-20 prototype compared with the state of the art finished F-22. I guess by taking a leaf out of someones book can bring China some advantages :lol:
 
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