Creating Turkmen entity in Mesopotamia?

[BeyondHeretic]

Iran doesn't have military power to both defeat Turkey+Azerbaijan+Azeri in Iran.

There are 30 million Azeri in Iran plus a lot of Arabs, Kurds and Baloch.

There are too many of them , you are right.

You don't make sense. Azeri won't kill Azeri. The Azeri I spoken to don't feel Persian but ethnic Azeri.

neither do you , if iran has 30 million azeri , then it would be the azeri fighting the turks, certainly not Persians.

Don't make this about Azeribijani. Your dream of taking Azerbaijan won't work. There is a big brother behind Azerbaijan now.

obviously Turkic is the only language you speak , cause if you have read my posts you see I don't give a rats a$$ about Azerbaijan.

 

[Neptune]

I've gotta lock this sh¡t down before you two start a war.

 

[BeyondHeretic]

I have a very hard time understand these pan-Turkic people.

1) They want autonomy and freedom for Uyghurs. Fine, I agree with this opinion. Uyghurs suffer a lot under Chinese oppression. They deserve their own autonomy. They are a rather sustainable amoung of people too and they are distanct than the other Chinese people.

2) They want a Turkmen autonomy in KRG and Iraq. Fine, even as a Kurd who supports the integrity of KRG and Iraq I do not oppose this. Despite their small numbers and that they only constitute a majority in the outskirts of Mosul and Kerkuk. But if they really want an ethnic autonomy, they should be granted the chance. I do not see a problem with that

3) They want a Turkmen autonomy in Western Kurdistan in Northern Syria. I do not even oppose this autonomy despite the fact that they only constitute about 1/30 of the villages in the predominant Kurdish areas. If they want their own parliament and their own government, they should be allowed to.

Now, what makes me wonder a whole lot is why these pan-Turkic persons can not accept a Kurdish autonomy despite the fact that the Kurds constitute a population that numbers 5 times the total Turkmen population? The Kurds are not even as spread out as the Turkmens and would probably be twice as safe and governable than a Turkmen state in four different countries. The funny thing is that Turkmens in KRG and Iraq, despite only numbering very low compared to the general Iraqi and Kurdish population, have far better political ,cultural and linguist rights than any Kurd in Turkey has. Not one single Turkman party in KRG has been closed, not one single Turkman politician has been imprisoned and not one single Turkman village has been burned down to the ground. They even have Turkmen schools and Turkmen mother language education.

So my question is; If KRG can grant the Turkmens, who number somewhere between 300.000-500.000, their own schools with mother language education in Turkoman, how come it is such a big deal for Turkey to do the same to its 20-25 million Kurds?

Cause kurds are dark people the turks beat to please Europeans...

 

[Serpentine]

Not only if turks break away they would be killing torks , but if torks of iran start a racial war , then we "Persians" can cleanse the arabs out and claim their oilfields.

You really think you are funny, don't you?
Stop trolling every single thread on this forum.

 

[atatwolf]

I have a very hard time understand these pan-Turkic people.

It is not Pan-Turkism. It is just their land. Because you were allowed to camp on somebodies land. Doesn't make it yours.