Commercial misuses of SAAB 2000 by PAF

[newb3e]

another great service/business by Fauji business inc!

i am sure in some remote part of Pak sar zameen fauji is also selling ice cream

 

[MBT 3000]

hmmm

 

[Windjammer]

another great service/business by Fauji business inc!

i am sure in some remote part of Pak sar zameen fauji is also selling ice cream

Yea because the civilians don't like to do menial work and get their hands dirty.....like here where Faujis have to clean the mess left by the civilians at Saif-ul-malook.

 

[newb3e]

Yea because the civilians don't like to do menial work and get their hands dirty.....like here where Faujis have to clean the mess left by the civilians at Saif-ul-malook.

lols good one!

and what about opening a huge arse mall inside army base thats been attacked before isnt that security threat? i am sure it is!

or opening a cinema and not bothering with making parking arrangements because you are abovr law and cause jams!

 

[Windjammer]

lols good one!

and what about opening a huge arse mall inside army base thats been attacked before isnt that security threat? i am sure it is!

or opening a cinema and not bothering with making parking arrangements because you are abovr law and cause jams!

Where's your law and order and the civilian entities when you have to drag the Faujis to SOS after every nature and man made calamity, hell now even to select a civilian government you need Faujis to conduct the elections.

 

[Imran Khan]

Where's your law and order and the civilian entities when you have to drag the Faujis to SOS after every nature and man made calamity, hell now even to select a civilian government you need Faujis to conduct the elections.

bhai jan did you ever notice anything wrong in military ?

 

[Windjammer]

bhai jan did you ever notice anything wrong in military ?

And did you ever notice anything RIGHT in Pakistan.

 

[Fledgingwings]

What the heck ...!

 

[newb3e]

bhai jan did you ever notice anything wrong in military ?

i am sure he see them as angles sent fro. heaven up above who created zardaris and nawazs and imrans and used these greedy fks as tools and looted Pakistan and people of Pakistan more then any civilian ever could!!

no one is against army dear friend we are against corruption manupilation and we want everyone to be held accountable!

your mushrafs and kayanis are bigger chor than zardaris and shareefs will you be okay with the idea of your idols presented before court of law and punished for their crimes against people of Pakistan?

 

[CHI RULES]

If any thing is above our conscious level then we should abstain from giving comments, same is case here with Saab 2000 usage, on one side most of us curse armed forces that they are eating major portion of our budget by keeping blind eye towards threats and on other side we even make fun when they try to meet their expenses through such projects. On other side people in armed forces are not aliens they have day to day needs, often they have orders not to cross the cant boundaries. Meanwhile many military installations are now present in dense populated areas. The shops and cinemas are also even sources of funds for armed forces and mostly even civilians also benefited from these facilities. These shops or other cinemas though owned by armed forces are only monitored indirectly by them meanwhile directly run by civilians.

 

[Armchair]

Oh, so its not a commercial venture to make money.

That makes it much worse. What is it then? You make no money and you are doing some wishy-washy providing the "soft" image of Pakistan. When did PAF become the foreign office of Pakistan?

What a joke and how ridiculous. How are you even going to promote this "soft image of Pakistan" via a private club membership?

Leave foreign affairs to the foreign office. If they need to do something like this, they will let you know. Defend the skies for your people. People have already lost their trust on you, keep going like this and something bad will happen in the near future.

PA doing it doesn't excuse PAF doing it. If PA jumps of the cliff, will you follow suit? Is that what you did in Kargil? Did you follow PA to Kargil? So it seems you only want to emulate PA when it suits your needs.

 

[Imran Khan]

And did you ever notice anything RIGHT in Pakistan.

yeah i can bring thousands posts here when i was happy proud and feel good on pakistan
now please answer my question

 

[Dalit]

Sadly it's in our nature to wash the soap before hands and also look for negativity wherever the name of Pakistan appears. I just spoke to Mr Asif Lakhanvi, who was kind enough to leave the meeting he was in and attend my call and address the issue.
Basically Asif Lakhanvi is based in Holland and his family has strong defence connections with the Pakistani armed forces, amongst his other work he is also involved in supporting our troops in the Siachin sectors including supply of snow scooters.
Firstly this safari is no commercial venture, it's a dedicated club with mostly ex-service personal as members. The whole idea is to promote tourism and portray the soft image of Pakistan.
There's no commercial entity involved hence it's not as if these are daily or weekly flight tours.
Depending on the weather, currently only one tour every month is planned. It should be noted that the Scandinavian countries lease out their military transport aircraft for tourism flight which in turn pays for the maintenance of those aircraft.!!!
The PAF SAAB 2000 is not exactly suited for any defence purpose, basically it's just a transport aircraft, there are so many entrepreneurs who could have or rather should have initiated this venture to promote tourism in Pakistan however now that Mr Lakhanvi has initiated this promotion, we should thus appreciate his efforts. We should keep in mind how the Pakistan Army keenly promoted helisking earlier by using it's own helicopters and whats more, for the first tourism flight, the guy paid all the costs from his own pocket.

Pakistan hamesha zindha badh.

This explains it nicely. Thanks for clarifying the issue.

 

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

Pretty sure the PAF is not the only military arm in the world that engages in this.

Not sure if this is current, but here is an excerpt with respect to the USAF leasing out equipment:

In accordance with Title 10 U.S.C., Section 2667, the Air Force (AF) is authorized to lease certain non-excess property – including aircraft, aircraft-related equipment, and other forms of personal property – to non-Governmental entities (e.g. defense contractors, industry associations) when the Assistant Secretary of the Air Force (Acquisition), as delegated by the Secretary of the Air Force in Headquarters Air Force Mission Directive (HAFMD) 1-10, determines that it is advantageous to do so and can be leased without adversely impacting military readiness.

http://static.e-publishing.af.mil/production/1/saf_aq/publication/afi64-103/afi64-103.pdf

 

[Imran Khan]

Pretty sure the PAF is not the only military arm in the world that engages in this.

Not sure if this is current, but here is an excerpt with respect to the USAF leasing out equipment:

In accordance with Title 10 U.S.C., Section 2667, the Air Force (AF) is authorized to lease certain non-excess property – including aircraft, aircraft-related equipment, and other forms of personal property – to non-Governmental entities (e.g. defense contractors, industry associations) when the Assistant Secretary of the Air Force (Acquisition), as delegated by the Secretary of the Air Force in Headquarters Air Force Mission Directive (HAFMD) 1-10, determines that it is advantageous to do so and can be leased without adversely impacting military readiness.

http://static.e-publishing.af.mil/production/1/saf_aq/publication/afi64-103/afi64-103.pdf

did they use these powers and actually rent their planes sir?