Collapse of Darwinism : Theory of Evolution

[Azazel]

another attempt to prove the validity of religion by discarding theory of evolution....... i hv seen the same ppl trying to prove how scientific is their religion when their religion satisfies any portion of science.....

They have good reason too.Darwinism and Modern evolutionary synthesis are the biggest enemies of all religions.They are the reason for modern atheistic movements.Darwinism has withstood the test of time,and centuries of scientific scrutiny and still widely accepted among the scientific community and paved way to birth of Modern evolutionary synthesis

On the other hand,The backers of Intelligent Design have consistently sought to avoid the any scientific scrutiny which they know it will not withstand by hiding under the cloak of religion and faith.

another attempt to prove the validity of religion by discarding theory of evolution....... i hv seen the same ppl trying to prove how scientific is their religion when their religion satisfies any portion of science.....

They have good reason too.Darwinism and Modern evolutionary synthesis are the biggest enemies of all religions.They are the reason for modern atheistic movements.Darwinism has withstood the test of time,and centuries of scientific scrutiny and still widely accepted among the scientific community and paved way to birth of Modern evolutionary synthesis

On the other hand,The backers of Intelligent Design have consistently sought to avoid the any scientific scrutiny which they know it will not withstand by hiding under the cloak of religion and faith.

 

[neokautilya2]

They have good reason too.Darwinism and Modern evolutionary synthesis are the biggest enemies of all religions.They are the reason for modern atheistic movements.Darwinism has withstood the test of time,and centuries of scientific scrutiny and still widely accepted among the scientific community and paved way to birth of Modern evolutionary synthesis

On the other hand,The backers of Intelligent Design have consistently sought to avoid the any scientific scrutiny which they know it will not withstand by hiding under the cloak of religion and faith.



They have good reason too.Darwinism and Modern evolutionary synthesis are the biggest enemies of all religions.They are the reason for modern atheistic movements.Darwinism has withstood the test of time,and centuries of scientific scrutiny and still widely accepted among the scientific community and paved way to birth of Modern evolutionary synthesis

On the other hand,The backers of Intelligent Design have consistently sought to avoid the any scientific scrutiny which they know it will not withstand by hiding under the cloak of religion and faith.

well said!!!!

 

[MastanKhan]

Finish high school, do a few years of Uni level biology then look again, any one with even basic knowledge of the crap fest the human body is just rolfs at the idea of intelligent design.
If there is designer that sticks vital parts of the male anatomy on the outside of the body in the perfect place for an offended girls knee rather than tucked up safley inside i want to sue the designer.

Hi,

Everybody will get to see the 'DESIGNER' one day---some sooner than the other. This design is to keep the family jewels cooler---so that the sperm can develop and survive.

 

[The SC]

They have good reason too.Darwinism and Modern evolutionary synthesis are the biggest enemies of all religions.They are the reason for modern atheistic movements.Darwinism has withstood the test of time,and centuries of scientific scrutiny and still widely accepted among the scientific community and paved way to birth of Modern evolutionary synthesis

On the other hand,The backers of Intelligent Design have consistently sought to avoid the any scientific scrutiny which they know it will not withstand by hiding under the cloak of religion and faith.



They have good reason too.Darwinism and Modern evolutionary synthesis are the biggest enemies of all religions.They are the reason for modern atheistic movements.Darwinism has withstood the test of time,and centuries of scientific scrutiny and still widely accepted among the scientific community and paved way to birth of Modern evolutionary synthesis

On the other hand,The backers of Intelligent Design have consistently sought to avoid the any scientific scrutiny which they know it will not withstand by hiding under the cloak of religion and faith.

Sorry friend, but the theory of intelligent design is a scientific one, if it has something to do with some religions, that is a plus for it. But scientifically speaking, how can anyone explain the timing of the seasons on earth to name a very basic intelligent design? not to mention the rotation of earth on itself and around the sun, not to mention either how can it stay suspended in the air by itself, and what is gravity? I can ask these questions about every other planet and even galaxy that exists and find the answers in science, mostly physics and astrophysics to name but a very few fields of science that can enlighten one on the theory of Intelligent design.
while the theory of evolution is confused, evolution itself is a natural process and to name it correctly it should be called Adaptation to the environ. Which we find only on earth an concerns only the living creatures on earth, so it is some kind of micro intelligent design, while the macro intelligent design concerns the whole universe.
Haphazard would have created something hap-hazardous, not even chaotic, since even chaos has some order in it.
The theory of evolution does not stand any thorough scientific test (let alone freshmen thinking or even recent post graduates!), the fact that it is based in so many brains on the fact that humans descended from apes, while genetic science has proven without any doubt that there is at least one chromosome that is different between humans and the closest ape they found for comparison was the chimpanzee.
This is like saying that you have a winning lottery ticket but with one number missing in all your numbers.
Winning ticket: 5 6 24 13 35 12 and you have : 4 5 23 12 34 11, can you claim the prize?

 

[Rusty]

All I see is a bunch of uneducated Muslims, who don't understand the theory of evolution, making a fool of themselves. and a bunch of non Muslims who don't understand Islam, equally making a fool of themselves.

Once both of you two groups have better understanding then comeback and discuss this topic

 

[ashok321]

All I see is a bunch of uneducated Muslims, who don't understand the theory of evolution, making a fool of themselves


Muslims know the truth about theory of evolution, but they are handicapped to acknowledge it, that way their holy scripture would be proven false - which says baba adam and bibi hawa are the ones who started the population on this earth.

 

[MilSpec]

Sorry friend, but the theory of intelligent design is a scientific one, if it has something to do with some religions, that is a plus for it. But scientifically speaking, how can anyone explain the timing of the seasons on earth to name a very basic intelligent design? not to mention the rotation of earth on itself and around the sun, not to mention either how can it stay suspended in the air by itself, and what is gravity? I can ask these questions about every other planet and even galaxy that exists and find the answers in science, mostly physics and astrophysics to name but a very few fields of science that can enlighten one on the theory of Intelligent design.
while the theory of evolution is confused, evolution itself is a natural process and to name it correctly it should be called Adaptation to the environ. Which we find only on earth an concerns only the living creatures on earth, so it is some kind of micro intelligent design, while the macro intelligent design concerns the whole universe.
Haphazard would have created something hap-hazardous, not even chaotic, since even chaos has some order in it.
The theory of evolution does not stand any thorough scientific test (let alone freshmen thinking or even recent post graduates!), the fact that it is based in so many brains on the fact that humans descended from apes, while genetic science has proven without any doubt that there is at least one chromosome that is different between humans and the closest ape they found for comparison was the chimpanzee.
This is like saying that you have a winning lottery ticket but with one number missing in all your numbers.
Winning ticket: 5 6 24 13 35 12 and you have : 4 5 23 12 34 11, can you claim the prize?

LMAO...............good one

 

[Azazel]

Sorry friend, but the theory of intelligent design is a scientific one, if it has something to do with some religions, that is a plus for it. But scientifically speaking, how can anyone explain the timing of the seasons on earth to name a very basic intelligent design? not to mention the rotation of earth on itself and around the sun, not to mention either how can it stay suspended in the air by itself, and what is gravity? I can ask these questions about every other planet and even galaxy that exists and find the answers in science, mostly physics and astrophysics to name but a very few fields of science that can enlighten one on the theory of Intelligent design.

Are you suggesting that Earth is suspended itself in Air??.Because that is the dumbest thing I heard in my life.Also about the gravity Sir Isaac Newton has explained it in his law of universal gravitation,Later on Albert Einstien further expanded and superceded it by his theory of general relativity.All these theories have properly explained the phenomenon of gravitation and more researches are underway to understand stand more about the nature of it.All the questions you have posed here can be easily explained by simple high school physics.

And Intelligent Design is not a scientific theory because it allows the use of supernatural explanations of observed phenomena,This is against all scientific principles which makes use of Methodological naturalism.Scientist around the world has rejected both irreducible complexity and specified complexity(the two arguments used by promoters of intelligent design) for a wide range of conceptual and factual flaws.Intelligent design is viewed as a pseudoscience by the scientific community, because it lacks empirical support, offers no tenable hypotheses, and aims to describe natural history in terms of scientifically untestable supernatural causes.Even the courts in US has ruled that intelligent design is not science, that it "cannot uncouple itself from its creationist, and thus religious, antecedents".

while the theory of evolution is confused, evolution itself is a natural process and to name it correctly it should be called Adaptation to the environ. Which we find only on earth an concerns only the living creatures on earth, so it is some kind of micro intelligent design, while the macro intelligent design concerns the whole universe.

Theory of evolution is used to explain the origin of life on planet Earth.If we find some extraterrestrial life anywhere in the universe we can expand our evolutionary theory to understand the origin of life there.And adaptation to environment is the result of natural selection,a key mechanism of evolution.

Haphazard would have created something hap-hazardous, not even chaotic, since even chaos has some order in it.
The theory of evolution does not stand any thorough scientific test (let alone freshmen thinking or even recent post graduates!), the fact that it is based in so many brains on the fact that humans descended from apes, while genetic science has proven without any doubt that there is at least one chromosome that is different between humans and the closest ape they found for comparison was the chimpanzee.

This is like saying that you have a winning lottery ticket but with one number missing in all your numbers.
Winning ticket: 5 6 24 13 35 12 and you have : 4 5 23 12 34 11, can you claim the prize?

All this arguments completely idiotic,All humans have same no of chromosomes which is 23((22 pairs of autosomes and one pair of sex chromosomes), giving a total of 46 per cell.This is always the same in all humans.Rest of the arguments don't even make any sense.Here is some scientific explanation of explanation of close relation between Humans and apes.

DNA is thus especially important in the study of evolution. The amount of difference in DNA is a test of the difference between one species and another – and thus how closely or distantly related they are.

While the genetic difference between individual humans today is minuscule – about 0.1%, on average – study of the same aspects of the chimpanzee genome indicates a difference of about 1.2%. The bonobo (Pan paniscus), which is the close cousin of chimpanzees (Pan troglodytes), differs from humans to the same degree. The DNA difference with gorillas, another of the African apes, is about 1.6%. Most importantly, chimpanzees, bonobos, and humans all show this same amount of difference from gorillas. A difference of 3.1% distinguishes us and the African apes from the Asian great ape, the orangutan. How do the monkeys stack up? All of the great apes and humans differ from rhesus monkeys, for example, by about 7% in their DNA.

Geneticists have come up with a variety of ways of calculating the percentages, which give different impressions about how similar chimpanzees and humans are. The 1.2% chimp-human distinction, for example, involves a measurement of only substitutions in the base building blocks of those genes that chimpanzees and humans share. A comparison of the entire genome, however, indicates that segments of DNA have also been deleted, duplicated over and over, or inserted from one part of the genome into another. When these differences are counted, there is an additional 4 to 5% distinction between the human and chimpanzee genomes.

No matter how the calculation is done, the big point still holds: humans, chimpanzees, and bonobos are more closely related to one another than either is to gorillas or any other primate. From the perspective of this powerful test of biological kinship, humans are not only related to the great apes – we are one. The DNA evidence leaves us with one of the greatest surprises in biology: the wall between human, on the one hand, and ape or animal, on the other, has been breached. The human evolutionary tree is embedded within the great apes.

The strong similarities between humans and the African great apes led Charles Darwin in 1871 to predict that Africa was the likely place where the human lineage branched off from other animals – that is, the place where the common ancestor of chimpanzees, humans, and gorillas once lived. The DNA evidence shows an amazing confirmation of this daring prediction. The African great apes, including humans, have a closer kinship bond with one another than the African apes have with orangutans or other primates. Hardly ever has a scientific prediction so bold, so ‘out there’ for its time, been upheld as the one made in 1871 – that human evolution began in Africa.

The DNA evidence informs this conclusion, and the fossils do, too. Even though Europe and Asia were scoured for early human fossils long before Africa was even thought of, ongoing fossil discoveries confirm that the first 4 million years or so of human evolutionary history took place exclusively on the African continent. It is there that the search continues for fossils at or near the branching point of the chimpanzee and human lineages from our last common ancestor.

Genetics | The Smithsonian Institution's Human Origins Program

 

[AHAM BRIHMASMI]

The whole discussion about him being right or wrong is just weird to me. Having taken a platora of anthropology courses and a bunch of biology courses, I'm very familiar with his "theories" which make perfect ******* sense. There is nothing theoratical about them. He's just put 2 and 2 together and connected all the dots.

The age of the earth etc... aren't even his concerns. The famous line of "evolution by means of natural selections" is just a line to the ignorant religious folk. Once they actually sit down and read what he's talking about, there is a very big chance that they will bang their head on the wall for being so foolish.

IMO everybody should be forced to take 3 anthropology courses in their post-secondary educational careers (cultural anthropology, physical anthropology and either linguistics or archaeology). In this day and age people have to be out of their minds to even think about creationism or **** like that.

Now you are giving them the most difficult task of the world, i.e. reading. actually they never try to read even their own religious books on the basis of which they are made fools, if they read it minutely once or twice, more than half of their confusions will be cleared.

 

[Rusty]

All I see is a bunch of uneducated Muslims, who don't understand the theory of evolution, making a fool of themselves


Muslims know the truth about theory of evolution, but they are handicapped to acknowledge it, that way their holy scripture would be proven false - which says baba adam and bibi hawa are the ones who started the population on this earth.

There is no doubt that all humans descended from a single population that was very very tiny. So I see no problem with this, you can call them Adam and eve, you can call her mitochondrial eve, or what ever else.
So there is no problem here.

Like I said, you don't know enough about Evolution AND Islam to have a discussion about this topic. You are just here to score some cheap points.

 

[The SC]

@ AZAZEL and his likes

IF THE FOLLOWING IS NOT INTELLIGENT DESIGN THAN LET THE WORLD KNOW WHAT IT IS :


Ca2+ + 2Cl− + 2Ag+ + 2NO3− = Ca2+ + 2NO3− + 2AgCl(s)

Equations of motion
Equations of motion - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Azazel]

@ AZAZEL and his likes

IF THE FOLLOWING IS NOT INTELLIGENT DESIGN THAN LET THE WORLD KNOW WHAT IT IS :


Ca2+ + 2Cl− + 2Ag+ + 2NO3− = Ca2+ + 2NO3− + 2AgCl(s)

Equations of motion
Equations of motion - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

These equations are intelligently designed by humans for human puposes and some idiots here don't seems to make much sense of it.So they are calling it a divine creation.

 

[Azazel]

There is no doubt that all humans descended from a single population that was very very tiny. So I see no problem with this, you can call them Adam and eve, you can call her mitochondrial eve, or what ever else.
So there is no problem here.

Like I said, you don't know enough about Evolution AND Islam to have a discussion about this topic. You are just here to score some cheap points.

All living humans are also descended matrilineally from Mitochondrial Eve who is thought to have lived earlier, about 190,000–200,000 years ago.That doesn't mean she was the only living female of her time, she co-existed with other females.However, all of her other female contemporaries failed to produce a direct unbroken female line to the present day..Also note that Y-chromosomal Adam lived as early as around 142,000 years ago,means both these individuals were not contampories.This also an evidence of our complicated evolutionary process.

 

[The SC]

These equations are intelligently designed by humans for human puposes and some idiots here don't seems to make much sense of it.So they are calling it a divine creation.

Another Indian idiot who has no idea of science wants to talk about life matters.
Too bad you are too ignorant to be on this thread, you should be studying some basic science and making the links to nature instead of wasting your time and energy making a fool of yourself.

 

[Azazel]

Another Indian idiot who has no idea of science wants to talk about life matters.
Too bad you are too ignorant to be on this thread, you should be studying some basic science and making the links to nature instead of wasting your time and energy making a fool of yourself.

Can you even name those basic sciences??
Just look at you trying desperately to promote pseudosciences like ID and calling those who refute as fools.This thread itself is based on ignorance,ID is nothing more than a part of a pathetic attempt from American creationists to push their creationist ideals in to American schools.Too many critics of ID have fallen into the trap of addressing each and all of the claims that ID advocates use to support their arguments. Someone should do this, of course, but the downside is that it suggests to the general public that the ID claims are a serious challenge to science. They are not. Most of the "scientific" claims of ID are simply irrelevant, for the fatal flaws of ID are much more fundamental.
So If you want talk about science at least come up with a real scientific theory.Or it will be you that will look like like a fool.