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Clashes in Kashmir Risk Taking India-Pakistan Back to Brink of Nuclear War

Media has gone bonkers.. suggesting for even a terrorist being killed will lead to a chance/probability of a nuclear war is beyond any logical sanity..

But then media job is to increase such opinions and paint a fear, gloom and war mongering.

Bcz negative or bad news sell more
Please keep in mind media also has its share of dolts. Take is as a joke. Even for doom and gloom one has to have some basis. Let Pakistani have their field day. Nuke kar denge types.
 
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You're right nobody should be flippant about this, however it's a fact that India has not proven it has thermonuclear weapons through actual tests. Highest test yield was on par with the first ever fission bomb (Little Boy in Hiroshima).

Neither has Pakistan. However, it is often said that Pakistan's nuclear warheads were tested by China on their behalf, so it's possible that they have such tech considering we were one of the first to attain it in the 1960's (after US/Russia).

Thermonuclear weapons are on a different level of danger, if India/Pakistan were to fight a war with fission bombs then both might survive. Whereas with thermonuclear bombs it's unlikely there will be any kind of functioning state in either country.



Source: https://defence.pk/threads/clashes-...nk-of-nuclear-war.440859/page-2#ixzz4FMDMoaID
The Indians have pretty big nukes but yes they have thermonuclear weapons NOT tested, but sure to work atleast.
The idea is NOT to have the biggest stockpile like USSR and America. Remember what happened. And its not the size.
Its is the ability to deliver the bomb to the target no matter where it is.
Lets say the CCP threaten India. They realize India has launched its missiles at Beijing. It does matter, the quantity, the size, the fact is to the CCP they are already dead, along with their family in the vicinity.
That is the point of minimum nuclear deterrence which works. India can have 10 warheads capable of hitting Washington or LA but at least it stops the US from having a direct conflict with India.
Which is why nuclear warheads are being exchanged for conventional bombs on IRBMs and ICBMs around the globe except NK and Pakistan.
India has few nukes, NON mated with the delivery vehicle. For all 3 services, the Army, Navy and Air force.
Pakistan has a growing nuclear warhead count of 100+ but not all of them are for missiles. Some of them IRON bombs, and a lot of them are. Which is a danger, and they the Pak army now this. They play on the brink.
Point being India's Nukes are safe and work well as a deterrent. There is no point in investing in weapons you will NOT use. Sadly learn't latter.
 
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Since India has no tested capability of thermonuclear weapons (largest test yield was only about 20kt) the damage will be much more limited than a nuclear war between thermonuclear powers.
Get over your obsession. The bombs used so far were way less powerful than what everyone has now and we know the results. Does not matter if we have thermonuclear or not, what we have is good enough. By the way I do not forsee it getting used.

The Indians have pretty big nukes but yes they have thermonuclear weapons NOT tested, but sure to work atleast.
The idea is NOT to have the biggest stockpile like USSR and America. Remember what happened. And its not the size.
Its is the ability to deliver the bomb to the target no matter where it is.
Lets say the CCP threaten India. They realize India has launched its missiles at Beijing. It does matter, the quantity, the size, the fact is to the CCP they are already dead, along with their family in the vicinity.
That is the point of minimum nuclear deterrence which works. India can have 10 warheads capable of hitting Washington or LA but at least it stops the US from having a direct conflict with India.
Which is why nuclear warheads are being exchanged for conventional bombs on IRBMs and ICBMs around the globe except NK and Pakistan.
India has few nukes, NON mated with the delivery vehicle. For all 3 services, the Army, Navy and Air force.
Pakistan has a growing nuclear warhead count of 100+ but not all of them are for missiles. Some of them IRON bombs, and a lot of them are. Which is a danger, and they the Pak army now this. They play on the brink.
Point being India's Nukes are safe and work well as a deterrent. There is no point in investing in weapons you will NOT use. Sadly learn't latter.
Good points, only addition is Pakistan can do whatever with nukes, increase the size whatever at the end the only possibility of them using them is on their own soil. They do not have the stature needed to use them. Just having nukes is not enough. At the moment even US cannot use it and Pakistan along with India is long shot.
 
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The long ignored suffering of the Kashmiri people carries with it the world’s greatest risk of full-scale nuclear war between two long-standing adversaries.
Tensions have reemerged in the disputed territory of Kashmir, a Muslim-dominated region that has long been controlled by India, but whose population longs to be reunited with their brethren in Pakistan exacerbating longstanding tensions between the two nuclear powers.

Ten years ago, Pakistan and India stepped away from the abyss, after decades of warring over the territory, by deciding in principle to dissipate tensions and allowing the free movement of people and goods across the line of control.

The win-win agreement would have seen the two countries withdraw one million soldiers from Kashmir and administer the territory jointly providing residents more autonomy as progress moved towards a final resolution – but it never happened with then leader Pervez Musharraf attempting to flex his leverage with the Bush administration over the fight against al-Qaeda by stepping away from the table not realizing at the time that he was playing his hand too deep.

Apart from brinksmanship, Musharraf faced another staggering and unexpected challenge when he called on militant Islamist groups occupying Kashmir to disband and demobilize in 2003 to facilitate the diplomatic process – these militants turned into al-Qaeda affiliate Lashkar-e-Taiba that turned its weapons on the people of Mumbai.

The situation in Kashmir today is now as dire as it was when over a million soldiers were always a hair-string trigger way from turning the territory into one of the world’s worst conflict zones. Since July 8, when a popular young Muslim rebel Burhan Wani was killed in a gunfight with Indian security forces, the Kashmiri people have erupted in anger with demonstrations leading to at least 42 killed, hundreds blinded, and some 3,500 people injured.

Today, Pakistan’s Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif aspires to take back control of Kashmir from India, the granting of which many historical scholars deem a tragic mistake by British administrators.

In 1947, the disastrous partition of India administered by Lord Mountbatten, a friend of India’s founder Jawaharlal Nehru, stripped Pakistan of a future by separating it into two parts – East and West Pakistan – separated by over a thousand miles of India’s territory. The partition itself resulted in the death of some 1 million people and years later, after a bloody war and another 1 million people killed, East Pakistan ultimately became what is known as Bangladesh.

There were other mistakes in the map making process – Mountbatten looked to divide the pieces by Muslims majority areas and Hindu majority areas. Kashmir, however, has always been dominated by the Islamic faith which is espoused by some 70% of the population.

The resource rich territory, a land dispute that also comes with treasures and minerals, sits at the hard of the sibling rivalry between the two countries. With the Kashmiris now clamoring for change, Pakistani Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif’s government now seems set on reigniting a nuclear standoff against its long-time rival calling on the people in Kashmir to agitate, demonstrate, and wave Pakistan’s flag.

Pakistan and India now sit on roughly 120 nuclear warheads each – enough to eradicate life from earth several times over – and if the 1989-2002 conflict between the two countries, a violent cycle that led to at least 50,000 deaths according to Human Rights Watch and as many as 90,000 dead Kashmiri Muslims according to retired Congressman Edolphus Towns (D-NY), is any indicator then the situation could escalate rapidly towards a doomsday scenario.



http://sputniknews.com/asia/20160724/1043540049/india-pakistan-nawaz-modi-kashmir.html

totally idiotic piece of crap. Donkeys put paper to better use than whoever wrote this. This exhibit zero comprehension of the subject, sub-zer0 language skills and is not at all worth any time. Unfortunately one realizes it only after reading it.
 
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India has NFU policy. So the responsibility of any nuclear war squarely lies with Pakistan.

Important Points:

1) Pakistan has proven track record of nuclear proliferation (Re: AQK network)

2) Pakistan has dubious track record in supporting terrorist groups in the name of moral support (Re: Afghanistan & Kashmir) or claiming inability to control groups like Taliban, LeT, JuD etc. when pressure was mounted.

3) Pakistan has demonstrated track record that it would even disclaim their own soldiers who participate in its wars (Re: Pakistan not accepting dead bodies of its soldiers during Kargil war)


All these points taken together would imply that there is high possibility that Pakistan's nuclear weapons would fall into the hands of the terrorists and would be used against its enemies while Pakistan would claim innocence and feign ignorance. The modus operandi could not be much clearer.
wow what a coherence in arguments and conclusion............
 
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No one cares about what Pakistan says.. All we care is what can be done to become a global player. I think we are doing quite well

May be China is now fed up with India taking them right on. On all the global forums. So may China want Pakistan to do more to get more support from China?
 
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Tensions have reemerged in the disputed territory of Kashmir, a Muslim-dominated region that has long been controlled by India, but whose population longs to be reunited with their brethren in Pakistan exacerbating longstanding tensions between the two nuclear powers.
Source: https://defence.pk/threads/clashes-...to-brink-of-nuclear-war.440859/#ixzz4FONLfxzK
This is the biggest bullshit I've read so far! Only 3%, including the lame duck Hurriyat and their foot soldiers want anything to do with Pakistan.

P.S. I'm sick and tired of hearing this word 'brethren' (and 'brother' countries) being bandied about at the drop of a hat! Jeeez!
 
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sputnik news( err who), declares nuke war between indians & pakistanis on PDF with a unwanted nosy biased chinese umpire?:lol:
 
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Media has gone bonkers.. suggesting for even a terrorist being killed will lead to a chance/probability of a nuclear war is beyond any logical sanity..

But then media job is to increase such opinions and paint a fear, gloom and war mongering.

Bcz negative or bad news sell more

What the hell is going on with our media and media in general?

They think nuclear weapons are toy candies to be thrown around.
 
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Since July 8, when a popular young Muslim rebel Burhan Wani was killed in a gunfight with Indian security forces,

-- Address of the writer, Lahore, pakistan! :D
 
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