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You seem blind on one eye. What's a suffering of ukrainian people, where, by whom... What you are trying to prove? That ukrainian people are shelling by russian army, that someone trying eliminated them, destroy their houses and lives...

Let's face to facts then, Ukr Forces shelling cities with russian people inside, they destroy houses, factories etc. Of course you can justife this becouse of abstract idea: sovereignty, integrity, democracy, nation and others words that match to current situation for those on the top. If you aren't fish you should remember what happened in Serbia few years ago. Similar situation but the forces of good 'United states, Germany, Canada' had other point of view about sovereignty of independent country.
It' s ironic now isn't it. So don't try to play these cards...

We all saw how much people were suffering since the last 10 years , and how gas wars were making lifes miserable for the people. Ukraine instead of developing went more backward which kept the people suffering and being dependable in which they can even decide to sign agreements with other neighboring countries in which they can go and earn to improve their life. Enter like asylum seekers, refugees or stateless person and go through all the suffering in which everyone can play with their lifes. Here only it has showed how the big powers have played with the life of the Ukrainian people.
 
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Another "monument" of "lenin' destroyed in Odessa. :chilli::victory::nana:

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Azov,respect to them and all other battalions.

 
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Always knew that the extreme left in Europe are Russian financed stooges,been so from the Cold War.Very soon these traitors will get what's owed to them.


Russia never put military bases in Romania. Now you are a stooge of the US with hundreds of US military bases in Romania. Your country is under American military occupation. :rofl:
 
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Russia never put military bases in Romania. Now you are a stooge of the US with hundreds of US military bases in Romania. Your country is under American military occupation. :rofl:


Russia robbed Romania blindly,in the 50's there was famine in Romania and grains were shipped to Russia.I could go on and on.Russia had soldiers in Romania up until 1958.The difference between Russian and US soldiers is that the first group raped and robbed like it was a hobby while the second is friendly,fraternizes with the locals and are welcomed here so spare me the bolshevic speech.
 
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Russia robbed Romania blindly,in the 50's there was famine in Romania and grains were shipped to Russia.I could go on and on.Russia had soldiers in Romania up until 1958.The difference between Russian and US soldiers is that the first group raped and robbed like it was a hobby while the second is friendly,fraternizes with the locals and are welcomed here so spare me the bolshevic speech.


There was no Russia in the 1950s. That would be the USSR where Ukraine was the dominant country. If anyone is to blame, it's Ukrainians. Because Ukraine is a small country, Ukrainians are much more extreme compared to Russians. Look at the KKK style torch march in Kiev.
 
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TASS: Russia - Putin signs law on military service in Ukraine for Russian nationals in Crimea

January 03, 8:32 UTC+3
The decree signed Friday has been posted on the official website of legal information. It takes effect since signing
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MOSCOW, January 2. /TASS/. Russian President Vladimir Putin on Friday signed a decree to recognize the validity of documents on military service in Ukraine for Russian nationals residing in Crimea and Sevastopol.

The decree signed Friday has been posted on the official website of legal information. It takes effect since signing.

The Republic of Crimea and Sevastopol, a city with a special status on the Crimean Peninsula, where most residents are Russians, refused to recognize the legitimacy of authorities brought to power amid riots during a coup in Ukraine in February 2014.

Crimea and Sevastopol adopted declarations of independence on March 11, 2014. They held a referendum on March 16, 2014, in which 96.77% of Crimeans and 95.6% of Sevastopol voters chose to secede from Ukraine and join the Russian Federation. Russian President Vladimir Putin signed the reunification deals March 18, 2014.

Despite Moscow’s repeated statements that the Crimean referendum on secession from Ukraine was in line with the international law and the UN Charter and in conformity with the precedent set by Kosovo’s secession from Serbia in 2008, the West and Kiev have refused to recognize the legality of Crimea’s reunification with Russia.

According to the Crimean and Ukrainian statistics bodies, as of early 2014, Crimea had a population of 1,959,000 people; Sevastopol has a population of 384,000 people.

Work to integrate the Crimean Peninsula into Russia’s economic, financial, credit, legal, state power, military conscription and infrastructure systems is actively underway now that Crimea has acceded to the Russian Federation.

Best photos of the year 2014

Reuters / Wednesday, March 05, 2014
Perevalnoe, Ukraine: During Russia's occupation of the Crimean peninsular in Ukraine, masked men without insignia had appeared at Ukrainian army bases and important transport hubs all over the peninsular. Although they declined to say who they were, their Russian accents, military kit and license plates left little doubt that Moscow had sent them. The locals believed they would protect them from attackers from Kiev
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ATO NEWS: ATO soldiers detained deputy commander of bandit’s battalion - Міністерство оборони України
Saturday, January 3, DONBAS — According to the ATO press center, on the New Year’s Eve the ATO soldiers detained deputy commander of bandit’s battalion Leshyi who completed reconnaissance of ATO positions near Bakhmutka highway. It is worth mentioning the bandit formation Leshyi is known by its furious terror of local population, racket and marauding

Ukraine concerned about increasing number of attacks and provocations by militants| Ukrinform
KYIV, January 3 /Ukrinform/. The Ukrainian Foreign Ministry has reported an increasing number of attacks and provocations by illegal armed groups, including using Grad multiple rocket launchers, artillery and mortars, and sees such actions as an intentional violation of the Minsk agreements.

The press service of the Ukrainian Foreign Ministry said this in a statement on Saturday.

"The number of attacks and provocations by illegal armed groups in Donbas has significantly increased in recent times. Thirteen cases of such shelling were recorded on January 2 alone near the settlements of Debaltseve, Hnutove, Novohryhorivka, Troitske, Chornukhyne, Mayorsk, Krymske and the Donetsk airport. Of particular concern is the fact that militants again started to use BM-21 Grad multiple rocket launchers, artillery and mortars," reads the statement.

The Foreign Ministry sees these actions as a deliberate violation of the Minsk agreements and attempts to endanger the efforts being exerted today by Ukraine and its international partners for the implementation of the peace plan of Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko.



NSDC: One Ukrainian serviceman injured over past 24 hours| Ukrinform
KYIV, January 3 /Ukrinform/. One Ukrainian serviceman has been injured in the anti-terrorist operation area in Donbas over the past 24 hours.

Anti-terrorist operation spokesman, Colonel Andriy Lysenko, said this at a briefing on Saturday, an Ukrinform correspondent reports.

The map reflecting the situation in Donbas as of 12.00 on January 3 has been released by the information and analytical center of the Ukrainian National Security and Defense Council.
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There was no Russia in the 1950s. That would be the USSR where Ukraine was the dominant country. If anyone is to blame, it's Ukrainians. Because Ukraine is a small country, Ukrainians are much more extreme compared to Russians. Look at the KKK style torch march in Kiev.

Poll: More than 88% of Ukrainians say ‘nyet’ to joining Russia : UNIAN news
03.01.2015

An overwhelming majority of Ukrainians are unenthusiastic about their region joining Russia, with an overall total of 88.3% saying a firm “nyet” to the idea, according to a new poll.
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In contrast, only 3.1% of those polled in a survey conducted for newspaper ZN.UA by the Kyiv International Institute of Sociology said they liked the idea of joining the “Russian world.”

Similar figures emerged when citizens were asked if they would like their region to be separated from the rest of Ukraine, but remain independent and not join Russia - only 2.6% said they wanted to see the independence of their region.

In Odessa, widely touted by Kremlin fans as a “native Russian” city, support for joining the motherland was a firm 0%, as it was in the southeastern city of Kherson.

Patriotic feelings vary throughout the country, but there is a general trend of it lessening as one goes from west to east: while in the west support for an independent Ukraine is 94.0% and in the center 98.1%, in the south it is 93.3%, and in the east 81.5%.

The study, entitled "The views and opinions of the population of Ukraine: December 2014" was carried out from December 4-19, 2014. The study comprised 3,035 interviews with adult residents of Ukraine who live in 179 settlements of Ukraine.

In Luhansk and Donetsk regions survey was conducted only on territory controlled by the Ukrainian authorities. The poll’s statistical sampling error does not exceed 1.8%.

Representatives of self-proclaimed Donetsk republic, Ukrainian army may meet after Jan 16 - Interfax

MOSCOW. Jan 2 (Interfax) - Representatives of the self-proclaimed Donetsk people's republic (DPR) and the Ukrainian armed forces might meet after January 16, DPR envoy to the Minsk contact group Denis Pushilin said.

"The date for this meeting has not yet been set. It is likely to take place following a meeting on settling the military conflict in Ukraine in the Normandy format in Astana from January 15 to 16," the Donetsk news agency quoted Pushilin as saying on Friday.

The DPR delegation at the meeting will bring up the issue of civilian deaths resulting from the artillery shelling of populated areas, he said.

"We are currently gathering facts of people's deaths as a result of military shelling," he said.

The Donetsk news agency reported that a civilian resident of Horlivka had been killed by mortar fire on Friday. Another person was injured and is receiving treatment at the city hospital.
 
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Czech head Zeman Yatsenyuk called the " Prime Minister of the war "
Alexander Kuranov. Czech Director milo? Zeman believes the Prime Minister of Ukraine Arseniy Yatsenyuk " Prime Minister of war, who does not want a peaceful resolution to the current issues of the country.

" focusing on the small speech Prime Minister Yatsenyuk, I guess it is, rather, " the Prime Minister of the war, because he does not want a peaceful solution of the situation in Ukraine - ed), which gives recommendations to the European Commission, but wants to solve this problem by force, " the leader said in an interview in Prague newspaper Pravo published on the first day of the weekend.

The current policy of Kiev, in the opinion of the Czech President, has two faces. One is a head Petro Poroshenko, who " has the ability to be a " man of peace " and the other is the Ukrainian Prime Minister, which saves to the militants in the East of the Republic of compromisso position.

Zeman also believes that his phrase about the situation in Ukraine could affect the fall of its popularity in the country in recent months, as most of the " poorly informed citizens in the Czech Republic believe that the overthrow of President Viktor Yanukovych in February 2014 was something like " velvet revolution of autumn 1989 in what was then Czechoslovakia.

" They think there was something like we had a " velvet revolution, " said milo? Zeman.- The Maidan was not in any democratic revolution, I think that Ukraine is a civil war ".
Czech head Zeman Yatsenyuk called the Prime Minister of the war
 
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Do not confuse. Left - terrorists separatists, right - civilized Europeans.
January 1 in Donetsk and Kiev.
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