Chinese submarines in Indian ocean constantly tracked by Indian Navy

[kinsr]

People here tend to forget that India is signatory of CISMOA, which allows shared usage of US assets for maritime and war situations.

Indian P8s are now integrated with the USN ASW assets and whatever is being tracked by US is now available to Indian Navy as well as vice-versa. So I don't find it a big deal that India can track Chinese subs in IOR

So getting past USN and INs ASW assets in IOR is pretty hard for any navy.

 

[Nilgiri]

Hmm how do they know those are chinese? Could be pakistani, bangali or indonesian no?

Each model of sub has its own acoustic signature (which is correlated initially from other intelligence streams).

 

[Foxtrot Delta]

Each model of sub has its own acoustic signature (which is correlated initially from other intelligence streams).

that's the point. all of the above mentioned countries have a few chinese subs in their inventory.

 

[Nilgiri]

that's the point. all of the above mentioned countries have a few chinese subs in their inventory.

Each one would have specific individual signatures within the overall signature type is what I am saying.

There are probably tracking and operational signatures from different doctrines/SOP of the navies too to further help in delineating them.

This is all cross referenced many times (both initially and subsequently) with remote sensing (and other) intelligence closer to their home ports.

@jhungary @gambit @Hamartia Antidote

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

India tracking Chinese ships.

 

[Foxtrot Delta]

Don't underestimate indian navy they have alot more experience than any other regional navy.

Worst mistake u can do is underestimate your FOE

 

[beijingwalker]

Why Chinese submarines could soon be quieter than US ones
Top naval engineer says new propulsion system will put PLA Navy ‘way ahead’ of US
https://www.scmp.com/news/china/dip...nese-submarines-could-soon-be-quieter-us-ones

China Is Testing Silent ‘Magnetic Drive’ Submarines to Evade the US Navy
https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/...ilent-magnetic-drive-submarines-evade-us-navy

China operates world's biggest submarine fleet, bigger than US, so of course they are old ones and new ones in this huge submarine fleet.

 

[jhungary]

Each one would have specific individual signatures within the overall signature type is what I am saying.

There are probably tracking and operational signatures from different doctrines/SOP of the navies too to further help in delineating them.

This is all cross referenced many times (both initially and subsequently) with remote sensing (and other) intelligence closer to their home ports.

@jhungary @gambit @Hamartia Antidote

Different ship have different density, propulsion method that gives out unique signature, while it most likely cannot tell the ship in the same class (eg, you cannot tell between the Los Angeles and the Omaha, both being Los Angeles Class Submarine) but you can most likely be able to distinguish between subclasses of each classes (say a Turkey Type 214 and a South Korean Type 214.)

Each ship have distinct signature, come from either hull modification or layout or structural change to even cruise characteristic. You can tell a Chinese Ming Class from Bangladesh Ming Class

 

[Tshering22]

Tracking each other in areas of interest is a natural process for all navies. PLAN tracks US near Taiwan, JMSDF tracks PLAN in Sea of Japan area, Australians track Indonesian ships and vice versa.

It also allows both the countries to be aware of each other so as to avoid unnecessary escalation.

 

[jhungary]

Why Chinese submarines could soon be quieter than US ones
Top naval engineer says new propulsion system will put PLA Navy ‘way ahead’ of US
https://www.scmp.com/news/china/dip...nese-submarines-could-soon-be-quieter-us-ones

China Is Testing Silent ‘Magnetic Drive’ Submarines to Evade the US Navy
https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/...ilent-magnetic-drive-submarines-evade-us-navy

China operates world's biggest submarine fleet, bigger than US, so of course they are old ones and new ones in this huge submarine fleet.

Actually, many site reported China operate 70 Submarine of all type and US operate 71 Submarine of all type

PLAN Submarine

4 x Type 094
1 x Type 092
6 x Type 093
3 x Type 091
17 x Type 039A
13 x Type 039
12 x Kilo Class (636 & 877)
13 x Type 035
1 x Type 032

Total 70 Sub of all Classes

US Navy Submarine

34 (32 Operational, 2 Reserve) Los Angeles Class
18 (14 of SSBN, 4 SSGN) Ohio Class
3 Seawolf Class
16 Virginia Class

Total 71 Sub of all Classes

If you have a different number, let me know, but at this stand, this is the Ship of Class between PLAN and USN. Notice I only count ship that are delivered and commissioned, not counting planning and constructing or under sea trial.

 

[moweike]

Last time India thought —Jupiter and Venus = Chinese UAV

This time, is a whale?

 

[JohnWick]

Actually it is
Indian navy is being constantly tracked by chinese subs

 

[Feng Leng]

Last time India thought —Jupiter and Venus = Chinese UAV

This time, is a whale?

The Indian admiral had a big glass of liquor. After a few sips, he looked in his glass and detected a Chinese submarine. He is a very clever Indian admiral to find Chinese submarines where ever they may hide!

 

[JohnWick]

The Indian admiral had a big glass of liquor. After a few sips, he looked in his glass and detected a Chinese submarine. He is a very clever Indian admiral to find Chinese submarines where ever they may hide!

What he did the detection sub in glass of liquor?

 

[Arsalan 345]

https://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-news-from-elsewhere-23455128

India: Army 'mistook planets for spy drones'
News from Elsewhere......as found by BBC Monitoring

• 25 July 2013

India's army reportedly spent six months watching "Chinese spy drones" violating its air space, only to find out they were actually Jupiter and Venus.

Tensions have been high in the disputed Himalayan border area between the two nations in recent years, with India frequently accusing its neighbour of making incursions onto its territory. Things came to a head during a stand-off in April when Chinese troops were accused of erecting a camp on the Indian side of the de facto boundary known as the Line of Actual Control (LAC). By that stage, Indian troops had already documented 329 sightings of unidentified objects over a lake in the border region, between last August and February, according to the Calcutta-based Telegraph.

It quotes military sources as saying the objects violated the LAC 155 times. So, the army called the Indian Institute of Astrophysics to identify the objects. "Our task was to determine whether these unidentified objects were celestial or terrestrial," astronomer Tushar Prabhu told the paper. Only once the objects' movements were noted in relation to the stars were they identified as planets. The Telegraph suggests the sentry ought to be forgiven, with planets appearing brighter as a result of the different atmosphere at altitude and the increased use of surveillance drones.

hahahaha.funny.