Chinese Stealth Fighter

[razgriz19]

sir isnt the last one american???

yup it is
it lost against f-22...
btw its called yf-23

 

[ptldM3]

NO. The logic still stands! China is more advanced than Russian in meterial science, most of them having profound millitary implications.

The logic is you can't provide one source, and you keep making claim after claim but you have not once gave me a link.

deputy chief of PLAF, for example. Go read my previous posts.

Give me a link were he says the J-XX is more "stealthier" and "better" than the pak-fa, after all that's what you were claiming and that's what i'm asking. Link, give it to me.

Google those key words, you'll see pages of pages of links. Are you that lazy?

How about you stop back tracking and give a the link that i asked for instead of telling me to google "Chinese electronics" and "Russia". You make claims, you better back them up, stop acting like a child by telling me to search, if you make a claim than it's your responsibility to back it up.

Thank you for helping proving my point: see? e.g. China is NOT interested at all in eletronics of Su 35 ?

The link clearly stated China was interested in the SU-35's avionics.

China has fielded 3 types of AESA radar, while Russia none up to date. Go check it up. Nonetheless, the radar of Su 35 has something China would like to see.

We have ateast two AESA varients though none are in operational fighters, several of them are installed on Mig-35's and one of them, the Phazatron, is installed on a Mig-29. Keep in mind these aesa's are for fighter aircraft and not ships or awacs platforms which is considerably more impresive because of their compact size. Many countries that have aesa awacs are still stuggling to make an aesa radar compact enough to fit on a fighter.

 

[aimarraul]

Chinese Air Force official: China's fourth-generation fighters refer to modified J-10 fighters

 

[mDumb]

Hey, J10 is old technology (it's not the latest fighter plane that PLAAF has in its inventory). Why bother discussing J10? BTW, the US Pacific commander was inside a J10. If you know China, this means J10 it's not a secret or latest and greatest weapon anymore.

China's technology on stealth:
Some people think that the United States of America is the only nation with Stealth Fighters, Surveillance UAVs and Bombers that the enemy cannot see. But you might be surprised to learn that the British now have stealthy Unmanned Aerial Vehicles UAVs and the Chinese also have a Fighter Aircraft, which is largely believed to be heavy on the side of Russian Technology. Chinese spies have also gotten a hold of many of the United States Military Stealth Technology such as the Bombay doors on the B-2 Stealth Bomber.

What do the Chinese call their stealth fighter aircraft? The JX and the J-XX and although you do not hear a lot about it in the mainstream media, they have them and they are almost impossible to see on modern day radars. In fact some of the Russian Technology for Bomber Aircraft is so good right now that a flight of bombers penetrated Canadian airspace over the North Pole without detection for the first time and now some military observers are thinking that maybe there is a "Stealth Technology Aircraft Gap" coming soon.

Apparently what is even worse is that the J-XX Chinese Fighter can be built for a lot less money than the US F-35 Fighter and thus they may end up with many more of these aircraft than the US Congress is willing to build using US Technology. Now some are saying that our technology is being stolen faster than we can make it and that the Russian-Chinese Technology for Stealth Aircraft really is all our technology anyway? So much for Black Projects, meanwhile all top military nations chase new technologies into the future and we must all consider this in 2006.

True China's 5th generation fighter plane:
China is developing new 5th generation "stealth" fighter, which is being developed under a programmed variously referred to as XXJ, J-X, or J-XX by Western intelligence sources and is apparently designated as J-14.

 

[Luftwaffe]

mDumb..as name suits you go through the whole forum..

 

[gambit]

My point is that people tend to over rate American & Russian technology.

And you are incorrect.

Please tell me if it reminds you of any American Stealth Bomber

The Horten Ho-229 was designed as a flying wing because the flying wing is the most aerodynamically efficient in terms of range. The flying wing's shape does favor low radar reflectivity but can be increased by material composition or other 'doodads' attached to the aircraft.

Vera Radar developed by Czech Republic & also exported to USA

Yeah...We bought ONE. That does not qualify as an 'export' as the word imply volume quantity for widespread deployment. There is nothing extraordinary about it even though it is a well designed passive sensor. I advise you not to buy into the hype that it can detect US 'stealth' aircrafts. It cannot.

Worlds only ASBM developed by China

Speculative at best.

 

[faithfulguy]

Chinese millitary almost NEVER discloses any hardware in its entire history before it's completely finished and well-inducted in the PLA. So you won't see ANY hard proof as there is no such a thing in public domain before JXX is in service.

That is a mentality significantly different from that of the West where most projects are well-known even before they started, particularly in India where most weapon systems have been considered done and ranked as amongst world's bests even before the colours in the drawing board are still wet.

All the stuffs on the market on JXX are either outright rumours or educated guess. If you don't believe in the best possible educated guess from foriegn intelligence agencies and some domestic hardcore millitary experts with creditable track records, then you'd better say stuffs such as there is hardly ANY nuclear weapon in China after all, because China has never admitted that she has more than 1. And you won't find any proof on that either, you bet!


Yes, due to some considerable head start, mainly benefitting from the insane millitary built-up of the Cold War era, both the US and Russia are ahead of China in Space techonologies in general, up to now.

So? China's overall industrial base is already larger and more advanced than that of Russia. It was considered "inconceivable" just 2 decades back. e.g. electronics of Chinese millitary hardware have already started surpassed those of Russia, which includes those inside war planes. This is because Chinese semi conductor/electronic industry as a whole has already surpassed Russia's.

You can see examples like this in other industries everywhere if your eyesights are oke. No hard feelings.

Unless you are of advanced age with grandchildren already, you'll live to see the day when China is on par with, even surpass, most of the best US techologies one by one, let alone Russia's.

I agree that China would soon surpass that of Russia soon. But as for China surpass the US technology, unless you are 5 and live until 95, its most likely not going to happen.

 

[scuthan]

We have ateast two AESA varients though none are in operational fighters, several of them are installed on Mig-35's and one of them, the Phazatron, is installed on a Mig-29. Keep in mind these aesa's are for fighter aircraft and not ships or awacs platforms which is considerably more impresive because of their compact size. Many countries that have aesa awacs are still stuggling to make an aesa radar compact enough to fit on a fighter.

You guys are still using A50 AWACS equipped with obsolete MSA radar while chinese KJ2000s are using AESA radar, right?

In terms of Civilian electronic industry, Russia is not even comparable to Singapore, not to mention china. I haven't even heard Russia has civilian electronic industry.

When I was a child, I know Lada and GAZ imported from Sovitet Union. Today everyone knows russia is a failed country selling cheap raw materials, caviar, and whores. Their advantages in military industry arising from the insane milittary buildup during USSR era is sharply diminishing now

 

[Zebronic]

self delete...

 

[Lankan Ranger]

China Developing Two Stealth Multi-role Fighter's

J-13 Stealth Multi-role Fighter

J-14 Stealth Multi-role Fighter

 

[ptldM3]

You guys are still using A50 AWACS equipped with obsolete MSA radar while chinese KJ2000s are using AESA radar, right?

Clearly you have never heard of the NNIIRT 1L119 Nebo SVU, NIIR Zhuk-AE or N001, also who buys equipment from who? How many times have the Chinese hired Russian engineers or requested that Russia transfer technology, and yes you heard right China has asked for tansfer of technology.

In terms of Civilian electronic industry, Russia is not even comparable to Singapore, not to mention china. I haven't even heard Russia has civilian electronic industry.

You're an clown.

When I was a child, I know Lada and GAZ imported from Sovitet Union. Today everyone knows russia is a failed country selling cheap raw materials, caviar, and whores. Their advantages in military industry arising from the insane milittary buildup during USSR era is sharply diminishing now

It was nice knowing you.

 

[Lankan Ranger]

J-14 Stealth Multi-role Fighter Israeli Technology (Western YF-23 Project)

J-14



YF-23

 

[Lankan Ranger]

YF-23

 

[Lankan Ranger]

YF-23

 

[Lankan Ranger]

J-13 Stealth Multi-role Fighter Russian Technology (Mikoyan Project 1.44)

J-13

Mikoyan Project 1.44