Chinese ships in disputed waters after Japan's prime minister Shinzo Abe sends offering to Yasukuni

[TheMatador]

We did. we asked gentlemanly and us left peacefully after VN war. US troops, bases were then liability as it could lure VN retaliation.

Don't kid yourself. You saw what happened to Hamid Karzai when he refused to allow USA occupation of Afghanistan long-term.

 

[Kolaps]

Hoi! Nihonjin desu ka?!

いいえ、日本人じゃありません。

 

[somsak]

US Bases was asked to closed after sour relation with Bangkok. See? We r our own independent nation.

Don't kid yourself. You saw what happened to Hamid Karzai when he refused to allow USA occupation of Afghanistan long-term.

The United States ended its involvement in Southeast Asia by treaty and disengagement rather than by military victory. After the fall of Saigon in 1975, relations between Washington and Bangkok turned sour. In May 1975, the Royal Thai Government asked the United States to remove all of its combat forces (27,000 troops, 300 aircraft) by 1976.

The USAF bases were closed and the last USAF personnel left Thailand in June 1976.

United States Air Force in Thailand - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

US lost in Vietnam was the reason for US ended gold standard under brittonwood. Speak for.normal people, US was bankrupted by VN war.

 

[Nike]

US Bases was asked to closed after sour relation with Bangkok. See? We r our own independent nation.


The United States ended its involvement in Southeast Asia by treaty and disengagement rather than by military victory. After the fall of Saigon in 1975, relations between Washington and Bangkok turned sour. In May 1975, the Royal Thai Government asked the United States to remove all of its combat forces (27,000 troops, 300 aircraft) by 1976.

The USAF bases were closed and the last USAF personnel left Thailand in June 1976.

United States Air Force in Thailand - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

US lost in Vietnam was the reason for US ended gold standard under brittonwood. Speak for.normal people, US was bankrupted by VN war.

If it's the only cases, US lost more money because of Oil shock in the 70's decades and losing much more of their money and investment in Iran after the Revolution back in 79. But however they can bounce back once again and still lead the way in many aspect against their rival the Soviet Union, and ultimately US can give the Soviet hard times and lead them to their demises in 1991. US should change their symbol into Phoenix, they are much more appropriate to describes the US death and life cycles.

 

[somsak]

If it's the only cases, US lost more money because of Oil shock in the 70's decades and losing much more of their money and investment in Iran after the Revolution back in 79. But however they can bounce back once again and still lead the way in many aspect against their rival the Soviet Union, and ultimately US can give the Soviet hard times and lead them to their demises in 1991. US should change their symbol into Phoenix, they are much more appropriate to describes the US death and life cycles.

Its because of US was able to turn dollar to have intrinsic value without gold back. Please read Britton wood system and Nicson gold window closing for more details.

 

[bobsm]

A potted Tree?!? And China gets worked into a frenzy. I understand war criminals are being honored as well and that should, and rightfully so, anger China given what those people did to China and its people. But what of the largely non-criminally inclined, indicted or charged population of nearly 2.5 million that are being honored. I don't think Japan shouldn't honor its war dead, maybe just add a disclaimer to its offering saying that all are being honored except those that anger China.

I'm sure you'll see a bigger frenzy if Hitler was honored, matters not if "largely non-criminally inclined, indicted or charged population of nearly x million that are being honored" are on the honor list with him.

China is not the only one offended. In the past, our President has also issued condemnation when Abe visited the shrine.

Ma condemns Japanese leaders' visit to war shrine
Central News Agency
2014-01-19 09:29 PM

Taipei, Jan. 19 (CNA) The Japanese government was rubbing salt in people's wounds when its leaders visited the Yasukuni Shrine last December, President Ma Ying-jeou said on his Facebook page Sunday. Ma also said it is clear that Japan has shown no repentance over the issue of sexual slavery perpetrated by its soldiers during World War II. Ma posted the comment a day after he called on Cheng Chen Tao, a former "comfort woman," in Pingtung County, southern Taiwan. It was third time he had visited Cheng Chen, one of five comfort women still alive in Taiwan, and he was worried about her health, Ma said. Cheng Chen is a 93-year-old who sold coconut juice for a living in a fruit market and now lives alone. She was one of the many women who were forced to provide sexual services to Japanese soldiers during WWII. Ma said he gave her a red envelope and a scarf decorated with Taiwan's national flag as New Year presents and promised to return to see her. World War II ended 69 years ago but the wounds and painful memories have never disappeared for the comfort women, Ma said. It was unacceptable that Japan's leaders visited the Yasukuni Shrine, which honors convicted war criminals, and it showed a lack of repentance about that part of their country's history, Ma said. "I feel it was unfair to these comfort women, and the behavior of the Japanese government was regrettable," the president wrote. As mayor of Taipei 17 years ago, Ma voiced support for Taiwan's comfort women and said that he and the rest of the country would continue to demand justice for them, although the lawsuits against the Japanese government had failed. Some 2,000 Taiwanese women, as well as others from China, South Korea and the Philippines, were forced into prostitution by Japanese forces during WWII, according to Taipei Women's Rescue Foundation. (By Lee Shu-hua and Maia Huang)
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In a positive news:

Support rate for Abe's cabinet down 6.8%: survey
English.news.cn 2014-10-19 18:39:22

TOKYO, Oct. 19 (Xinhua) -- Support rate for Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe's cabinet declined by 6.8 percent to 48.1 percent from the previous poll conducted in early September, according to a latest survey released Sunday.

The decline on approval rate followed Trade Minister Yuko Obuchi's irregular use of political funds and the 40-year-old minister reportedly has intention to resign from the post.

The telephone poll that was conducted by Japan's Kyodo News through the weekend said that about 65.9 percent respondents were against the government's plan of further raising consumption tax from current 8 percent to 10 percent in October next year.

About 31.0 percent were in favor of the second round of sales tax hike decision. Japan carried out its first sales tax hike in 17 years this April in a move to increase the government revenue as financial health of the world's third largest economy is the worst among major industrialized countries.

However, the latest poll also said that about 84.8 percent of respondents said they did not feel the Japanese economy has recovered.

On the issue that whether or not Japan should restore its nuclear power plants, about 60.2 percent said they are against to have the reactors resumed operation, while 31.9 percent showed their favor.

All nuclear reactors for power plants are offline in Japan since the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant crisis in 2011 and the country now largely depends on fossil energy imports to meet domestic needs.

 

[SvenSvensonov]

Don't kid yourself. You saw what happened to Hamid Karzai when he refused to allow USA occupation of Afghanistan long-term.

He got voted out of office during the Afghan elections, one that he wasn't allowed to run in as he just completed his term in office?

I'm sure you'll see a bigger frenzy if Hitler was honored, matters not if "largely non-criminally inclined, indicted or charged population of nearly x million that are being honored" are on the honor list with him.

China is not the only one offended. In the past, our President has also issued condemnation when Abe visited the shrine.

Ma condemns Japanese leaders' visit to war shrine
Central News Agency
2014-01-19 09:29 PM

Taipei, Jan. 19 (CNA) The Japanese government was rubbing salt in people's wounds when its leaders visited the Yasukuni Shrine last December, President Ma Ying-jeou said on his Facebook page Sunday. Ma also said it is clear that Japan has shown no repentance over the issue of sexual slavery perpetrated by its soldiers during World War II. Ma posted the comment a day after he called on Cheng Chen Tao, a former "comfort woman," in Pingtung County, southern Taiwan. It was third time he had visited Cheng Chen, one of five comfort women still alive in Taiwan, and he was worried about her health, Ma said. Cheng Chen is a 93-year-old who sold coconut juice for a living in a fruit market and now lives alone. She was one of the many women who were forced to provide sexual services to Japanese soldiers during WWII. Ma said he gave her a red envelope and a scarf decorated with Taiwan's national flag as New Year presents and promised to return to see her. World War II ended 69 years ago but the wounds and painful memories have never disappeared for the comfort women, Ma said. It was unacceptable that Japan's leaders visited the Yasukuni Shrine, which honors convicted war criminals, and it showed a lack of repentance about that part of their country's history, Ma said. "I feel it was unfair to these comfort women, and the behavior of the Japanese government was regrettable," the president wrote. As mayor of Taipei 17 years ago, Ma voiced support for Taiwan's comfort women and said that he and the rest of the country would continue to demand justice for them, although the lawsuits against the Japanese government had failed. Some 2,000 Taiwanese women, as well as others from China, South Korea and the Philippines, were forced into prostitution by Japanese forces during WWII, according to Taipei Women's Rescue Foundation. (By Lee Shu-hua and Maia Huang)
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In a positive news:

Support rate for Abe's cabinet down 6.8%: survey
English.news.cn 2014-10-19 18:39:22

TOKYO, Oct. 19 (Xinhua) -- Support rate for Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe's cabinet declined by 6.8 percent to 48.1 percent from the previous poll conducted in early September, according to a latest survey released Sunday.

The decline on approval rate followed Trade Minister Yuko Obuchi's irregular use of political funds and the 40-year-old minister reportedly has intention to resign from the post.

The telephone poll that was conducted by Japan's Kyodo News through the weekend said that about 65.9 percent respondents were against the government's plan of further raising consumption tax from current 8 percent to 10 percent in October next year.

About 31.0 percent were in favor of the second round of sales tax hike decision. Japan carried out its first sales tax hike in 17 years this April in a move to increase the government revenue as financial health of the world's third largest economy is the worst among major industrialized countries.

However, the latest poll also said that about 84.8 percent of respondents said they did not feel the Japanese economy has recovered.

On the issue that whether or not Japan should restore its nuclear power plants, about 60.2 percent said they are against to have the reactors resumed operation, while 31.9 percent showed their favor.

All nuclear reactors for power plants are offline in Japan since the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant crisis in 2011 and the country now largely depends on fossil energy imports to meet domestic needs.

The US does honor Hitler in a similar fashion to Japan honoring its war dead. The US honors all war dead, Hitler included, and no, nothing major is made of it. Japan isn't honoring its criminals above its other war dead, it's honoring everyone equally. Same as the US or Europeans.Taiwan, South and North Korea, China, the Philippines, Australia, the US, and even Japan itself were victims of crimes committed by the Japanese during the war. That doesn't mean Japan shouldn't honor its people.

Also your positive new is only positive from one point of view. Perhaps you consider it positive, I don't think all people will agree with your sentiments.

 

[bobsm]

He got voted out of office during the Afghan elections, one that he wasn't allowed to run in as he just completed his term in office?



The US does honor Hitler in a similar fashion to Japan honoring its war dead. The US honors all war dead, Hitler included, and no, nothing major is made of it. Japan isn't honoring its criminals above its other war dead, it's honoring everyone equally. Same as the US or Europeans.Taiwan, South and North Korea, China, the Philippines, Australia, the US, and even Japan itself were victims of crimes committed by the Japanese during the war. That doesn't mean Japan shouldn't honor its people.

Also your positive new is only positive from one point of view. Perhaps you consider it positive, I don't think all people will agree with your sentiments.

Don't kid yourself, the Jews would never let the US govt openly honor Hitler. You would be delusional to think otherwise. As for POV, every news is a point of view of someone: its author.

 

[SvenSvensonov]

Don't kid yourself, the Jews would never let the US govt openly honor Hitler. You would be delusional to think otherwise. As for POV, every news is a point of view of someone: its author.

The Jews. The US is far from being comprised solely of Jews my friend.

 

[bobsm]

The Jews. The US is far from being comprised solely of Jews my friend.

The point is, neither the US nor German govt will openly honor Hitler. You are delusional to think otherwise, my friend.

 

[SvenSvensonov]

The point is, neither the US nor German govt will openly honor Hitler. You are delusional to think otherwise, my friend.

You're the delusional one. The US doesn't openly honor Hitler any more than Japan openly honors its criminals, I've never claimed such an instance occurs. Rather what the US does, and what I said (not that Hitler is openly honored as you claim) is that the US honors all war dead, Hitler being included in that group. When the US honors the dead during its ceremonies, it doesn't add an amendment to its honoring that excludes Hitler or anyone else.

 

[bobsm]

You're the delusional one. The US doesn't openly honor Hitler any more than Japan openly honors its criminals, I've never claimed such an instance occurs. Rather what the US does, and what I said (not that Hitler is openly honored as you claim) is that the US honors all war dead, Hitler being included in that group. When the US honors the dead during its ceremonies, it doesn't add and amendment to its honoring that excludes Hitler or anyone else.

Those Japanese criminals' names are on the list , and openly honored by the Japanese govt. So let me ask you, is Hitler's name mentioned on the honor list, honored openly by the US govt? If no, then you are delusional, my friend.

 

[SvenSvensonov]

Those Japanese criminals' names are on the list , and openly honored by the Japanese govt. So let me ask you, is Hitler's name mentioned on the honor list, honored openly by the US govt? If no, then you are delusional, my friend.

I'll reiterate this only once more since it seems you are incapable of grasping or understanding the concept. The US honors all war dead, list or no list, all war dead. Hitler is included in that category, so are Japanese criminals who fell during the war and even US military service personal who committed crimes and atrocities. All war dead are honored by the US.

 

[Aepsilons]

いいえ、日本人じゃありません。

宜しい, あなたはそんなに知っている!

I'll reiterate this only once more since it seems you are incapable of grasping or understanding the concept. The US honors all war dead, list or no list, all war dead. Hitler is included in that category, so are Japanese criminals who fell during the war and even US military service personal who committed crimes and atrocities. All war dead are honored by the US.

An Imperial Airforce pilot and an American naval sailor meet again.
In friendship's embrace.

 

[SvenSvensonov]

宜しい, あなたはそんなに知っている!

An Imperial Airforce pilot and an American naval sailor meet again.
In friendship's embrace.

Scenes like this put a big smile on my face. Horrid acts were committed by all sides during the war, but as soon as hostilities end people who were once enemies can become the best of friends. Once China and Japan were friends, may they take inspiration from this picture and similar scenes and forgive and forget.