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Chinese rocket fell on residential area
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Look more like a farmland, Chinese residential areas don't look like this. Don't know about India's. The Chinese on the video says it fell on somewhere close to a village in an ethnic Miao autonomous region in Guizhou province.
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Residential areas in China are all concrete and grey looking. At most this is a rural village. Rockets all fall somewhere near rural villages for Russian and Chinese launches which happen in central Eurasia plate like they use Khazakstan and we have many launch sites in western regions.
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Chinese rocket booster smashes home after launch https://spacenews.com/rocket-booster-smashes-home-following-chinese-long-march-3b-launch/ …
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A falling rocket booster just completely flattened a building in China
Despite how easy it is to prevent, China continues to allow launch debris to rain down on rural towns and threaten people’s safety.
by Neel V. Patel
Nov 27, 2019
A Long March 3B launch from the Xichang Satellite Launch Center.
XINHUA
Last Saturday, China launched a pair of satellites into orbit from its Xichang Satellite Launch Center. On social media, however, the main event was what happened on Earth: a booster from the launch smashed right into a building in the country’s rural south-central region. No one was injured, but videos and photos of the incident showed wreckage left in the booster’s wake, with toxic rocket fuel evaporating.
This is the aftermath downrange following a Chinese Long March 3B launch from Xichang early Saturday. And that yellow smoke is very toxic hypergolic propellant. Source: https://t.co/VEh5X8Ors0pic.twitter.com/22IVIpyJOk
— Andrew Jones (@AJ_FI) November 23, 2019
It’s the latest incident in China’s long history with falling rocket parts causing destruction below. The most infamous crash occurred in 1996, when the first Long March 3B launch saw the rocket veer off course and crash into a village, killing an unknown number of people (possibly hundreds, by some Western estimates).
ℹ：https://t.co/vY0CEN4CFYpic.twitter.com/Rdyq4fOMxI
— LaunchStuff (@LaunchStuff) November 23, 2019
“Any time you have stuff going up, there’s a possibility it’s going to come down where you don’t plan for it,” says Victoria Samson at the Secure World Foundation. “So there’s a reason why you don’t fire over populated land.” That’s why most countries launch over water.
So why doesn’t China? “This entire issue is down to geography,” says Thomas Roberts, a former aerospace security fellow at the Center for Strategic and International Studies. All three of China’s main spaceports are located in the mainland, including the Xichang site. They all save money by flying missions east (which requires less fuel to get into space), but that route takes them over vulnerable populations.
severe organ failure or cancer), the wreckage could pollute nearby rivers and streams used for irrigation and drinking water. Launches from the Soviet Union’s old Baikonur Cosmodrome in Kazakhstan, built in 1955, have caused more than 2,500 tons of debris to rain down on the surrounding region, leading to health problems for thousands.
So the issue isn’t new, but the space industry is expanding rapidly. “The more launches you have, the more chances you have for something to go wrong,” says Samson.
Luckily, the solutions aren’t complicated—they just require political will. China can launch over the water if it wants, through its spaceport on the island of Hainan in the South China Sea. Operational since 2014, it’s been seldom used because of launch failures and a less developed infrastructure. But these issues are fixable with enough investment.
China could also just change its flight paths. For example, Israel’s Palmachim Airbase can’t launch to the east because of obvious geopolitical conflicts. So it sends rockets over the Mediterranean Sea and through the Strait of Gibraltar. This requires putting a satellite in a retrograde orbit—one that moves in the opposite direction of Earth’s rotation. This requires much more fuel, but it entirely avoids populated areas.
And some emerging technologies might enable rockets to fly over populated areas more safely. Grid fins (lattice structures that can slightly modify control and speed) and parafoil features (aluminum foils that work like kites or parachutes), like those SpaceX uses, could help steer falling rocket boosters to vacant lands. Roberts thinks AI could one day be used to better assess downrange risks to communities before launch. One proposal led by SpaceX calls for building a flight corridor heading south that would fly rockets over populated areas as long as they can demonstrate a perfectly functional automated abort feature.
There’s one very cheap tool that could increase pressure on China and other groups to take steps to mitigate launch debris hazards: social media. Weibo and Twitter helped make images and videos of the latest crash go viral––a massive boon to the poor, rural victims, who are rarely seen or heard.
Despite how easy it is to prevent, China continues to allow launch debris to rain down on rural towns and threaten people’s safety.
by Neel V. Patel
Nov 27, 2019
A Long March 3B launch from the Xichang Satellite Launch Center.
XINHUA
Last Saturday, China launched a pair of satellites into orbit from its Xichang Satellite Launch Center. On social media, however, the main event was what happened on Earth: a booster from the launch smashed right into a building in the country’s rural south-central region. No one was injured, but videos and photos of the incident showed wreckage left in the booster’s wake, with toxic rocket fuel evaporating.
This is the aftermath downrange following a Chinese Long March 3B launch from Xichang early Saturday. And that yellow smoke is very toxic hypergolic propellant. Source: https://t.co/VEh5X8Ors0pic.twitter.com/22IVIpyJOk
— Andrew Jones (@AJ_FI) November 23, 2019
It’s the latest incident in China’s long history with falling rocket parts causing destruction below. The most infamous crash occurred in 1996, when the first Long March 3B launch saw the rocket veer off course and crash into a village, killing an unknown number of people (possibly hundreds, by some Western estimates).
ℹ：https://t.co/vY0CEN4CFYpic.twitter.com/Rdyq4fOMxI
— LaunchStuff (@LaunchStuff) November 23, 2019
“Any time you have stuff going up, there’s a possibility it’s going to come down where you don’t plan for it,” says Victoria Samson at the Secure World Foundation. “So there’s a reason why you don’t fire over populated land.” That’s why most countries launch over water.
So why doesn’t China? “This entire issue is down to geography,” says Thomas Roberts, a former aerospace security fellow at the Center for Strategic and International Studies. All three of China’s main spaceports are located in the mainland, including the Xichang site. They all save money by flying missions east (which requires less fuel to get into space), but that route takes them over vulnerable populations.
severe organ failure or cancer), the wreckage could pollute nearby rivers and streams used for irrigation and drinking water. Launches from the Soviet Union’s old Baikonur Cosmodrome in Kazakhstan, built in 1955, have caused more than 2,500 tons of debris to rain down on the surrounding region, leading to health problems for thousands.
So the issue isn’t new, but the space industry is expanding rapidly. “The more launches you have, the more chances you have for something to go wrong,” says Samson.
Luckily, the solutions aren’t complicated—they just require political will. China can launch over the water if it wants, through its spaceport on the island of Hainan in the South China Sea. Operational since 2014, it’s been seldom used because of launch failures and a less developed infrastructure. But these issues are fixable with enough investment.
China could also just change its flight paths. For example, Israel’s Palmachim Airbase can’t launch to the east because of obvious geopolitical conflicts. So it sends rockets over the Mediterranean Sea and through the Strait of Gibraltar. This requires putting a satellite in a retrograde orbit—one that moves in the opposite direction of Earth’s rotation. This requires much more fuel, but it entirely avoids populated areas.
And some emerging technologies might enable rockets to fly over populated areas more safely. Grid fins (lattice structures that can slightly modify control and speed) and parafoil features (aluminum foils that work like kites or parachutes), like those SpaceX uses, could help steer falling rocket boosters to vacant lands. Roberts thinks AI could one day be used to better assess downrange risks to communities before launch. One proposal led by SpaceX calls for building a flight corridor heading south that would fly rockets over populated areas as long as they can demonstrate a perfectly functional automated abort feature.
There’s one very cheap tool that could increase pressure on China and other groups to take steps to mitigate launch debris hazards: social media. Weibo and Twitter helped make images and videos of the latest crash go viral––a massive boon to the poor, rural victims, who are rarely seen or heard.
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Now Indian can celebrate, China launches world most rockets every year, something can go wrong, good to know no one was hurt. the government will fix it.
The full launch list from SpaceLaunchReport from 2018 shows which country, in terms of who manufactured the core or first stage, achieved the most launches:
The full launch list from SpaceLaunchReport from 2018 shows which country, in terms of who manufactured the core or first stage, achieved the most launches:
- China — 39 (one failure)
- United States — 29
- Russia — 20 (one failure)
- Europe — 8 (one failure)
- India — 7
- Japan — 6
- New Zealand — 3
- Ukraine — 2
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Who celebrates here? It is just a news of china which is posted here. Indians do not give any shit to you guys. However, Falling of a rocket is not as serious as it is falling on residential area. In china, human life has no value.
See how these salty Indian desperate move after their DSRO chief their moon lander crushed like a pancake.
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are you being sarcastic? deli smog fixed?
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I had not posted a single comment of my own. I had just posted news from Chinese media. Anyway, Delhi smog will be fixed before you get some hygenic oil to eat in place of Gutter oil.
As if India values life? India GDP still one of the lowest in the world. Sanitary facilities not adequate, most kids are starving despite India bragging about export rice. The basic need cannot even meet most demand and we have Indian think they are qualify to tell Chinese about value human life? Is that a joke?
Indian is the last in row to talk about human lives.
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Of course, we all know how valuable Indian lives are, don't we?
China launches hundreds of rockets and now is the number one country in number of launches every year, how many home were destroyed ?
The full launch list from SpaceLaunchReport from 2018 shows which country, in terms of who manufactured the core or first stage, achieved the most launches:
- China — 39 (one failure)
- United States — 29
- Russia — 20 (one failure)
- Europe — 8 (one failure)
- India — 7
- Japan — 6
- New Zealand — 3
- Ukraine — 2
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To Indians, not letting a normal human being of their population to have a basic dignity to live with enough food, life basic necessity is not a guide line in value human life.
Just by ensure rocket parts not landing in residential area is the real guideline in valuing human life. No wonder, India is so fast to claim they are superpower in 2012 with such bogus landmark.
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