Chinese penetration in South Asia now beyond India’s control

[RockyX]

Not 50% but 100 or 200 million.

It is 50% and I agree Per capita is 10k. If you have any other data, Kindly prove it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China_proper

 

[jayron]

Quite opposite. Inner Mongolians are 3 times richer than their cousins in the other side of the border.

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Not 50% but 100 or 200 million.

I guess you wen't as successful in robbing the Mangolians as robbing the Vietnamese. You should try harder kay?

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

Quite opposite. Inner Mongolians are 3 times richer than their cousins in the other side of the border.

Ordos has more GDP per capita than Hong Kong, so it is basically comparable to the income per capita of the West.

Ordos City - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[oct605032048]

It is 50% and I agree Per capita is 10k. If you have any other data, Kindly prove it.

China proper - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

You are the one claim 50% of people live in the coastal area, proving it is your responsibility.

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from wiki.

Rank 城市 City Province GDP per capita Population
1 澳門 Macau Macau US$ 38,924 (2009)[1] 542,400[2]
2 香港 Hong Kong Hong Kong US$ 32,400 (2010)[3] 7,026,400[4]
3 克拉玛依 Karamay Xinjiang ¥ 173,858 (2009)[5] 276,087[5]
4 鄂尔多斯 Ordos Inner Mongolia ¥ 134,361 (2009)[6] 1,625,400[6]
5 东营 Dongying Shandong ¥ 103,246 (2009)[7] 2,017,800[7]
6 深圳 Shenzhen Guangdong US$15,800 (2010)[8] 8,912,300[8]
7 广州 Guangzhou Guangdong ¥ 88,834 (2009)[9] 10,258,000[9]
8 上海 Shanghai Shanghai ¥ 77,556 (2009)[10] 19,213,200[10]
9 大庆 Daqing Heilongjiang ¥ 75,660 (2009)[11] 2,802,000[11]
10 苏州 Suzhou Jiangsu ¥ 74,676 (2008)[12] 8,897,400[12]
11 无锡 Wuxi Jiangsu ¥ 73,053 (2008) 4,471,900
12 大连 Dalian Liaoning ¥ 71,833 (2009) 6,170,000
13 佛山 Foshan Guangdong ¥ 70,806 (2008) 5,400,000
14 宁波 Ningbo Zhejiang ¥ 69,997 (2008) 6,000,000
15 玉溪 Yuxi Yunnan ¥ 56,307 (2004) 450,000
16 珠海 Zhuhai Guangdong ¥ 67,591 (2008)
17 威海 Weihai Shandong ¥ 63,519 (2008) 2,596,753
18 北京 Beijing Beijing ¥ 63,029 (2008) 17,200,000
19 厦门 Xiamen Fujian ¥ 62,651 (2008) 5,000,000
20 杭州 Hangzhou Zhejiang ¥ 70,832 (2008) 3,931,900
21 东莞 Dongguan Guangdong ¥ 56,591 (2009)[13] 6,350,000[13]
22 天津 Tianjin Tianjin ¥ 55,473 (2008) 10,240,000
22 中山 Zhongshan Guangdong ¥ 56,106
25 青岛 Qingdao Shandong ¥ 52,895 (2008) 2,584,000
26 淄博 Zibo Shandong ¥ 51,426 (2008) 4,149,900
27 十堰 Shiyan Hubei ¥ 36,704 3,460,000
27 盘锦 Liaoning Liaoning ¥ 51,214 (2008) 566,046
28 绍兴 Shaoxing Zhejiang ¥ 50,909 (2008) 4,347,200
29 南京 Nanjing Jiangsu ¥ 50,327 6,070,000
30 常州 Changzhou Jiangsu ¥ 50,283 3,489,000
33 烟台 Yantai Shandong ¥ 49,012 (2008) 6,468,200
35 沈阳 Shenyang Liaoning ¥ 31,094 7,200,000
36 唐山 Tangshan Hebei ¥ 27,533 7,100,000
37 武汉 Wuhan Hubei ¥ 26,930 (2005) 9,100,000
37 镇江 Zhenjiang Jiangsu ¥ 46,473 (2008) 2,672,100
38 郑州 Zhengzhou Henan ¥ 23,305 (2005) 3,970,000
39 长沙 Changsha Hunan ¥ 45,765 (2008) 6,017,600
39 莱芜 Laiwu Shandong ¥ 22,983 (2006) 1,242,900
40 长春 Changchun Jilin ¥ 21,336 (2003) 6,830,000
41 济南 Jinan Shandong ¥ 45,724 (2008) 5,900,000
41 泉州 Quanzhou Fujian ¥ 34,840 (2008) 7,520,000
42 温州 Wenzhou Zhejiang ¥ 20,779 (2005) 7,777,000
43 成都 Chengdu Sichuan ¥ 52,855 (2008) 10,597,000
44 枣庄 Zaozhuang Shandong ¥ 20,483 (2006) 3,637,600
45 潍坊 Weifang Shandong ¥ 20,010 (2006) 8,500,000
46 沧州 Cangzhou Hebei ¥ 18,506 488,600
47 南昌 Nanchang Jiangxi ¥ 18,388 1,934,445
48 德州 Dezhou Shandong ¥ 18,243 (2006) 5,493,000
49 泰安 Tai'an Shandong ¥ 18,074 (2006) 5,499,000
50 日照 Rizhao Shandong ¥ 18,066 (2006) 2,780,000
51 湛江 Zhanjiang Guangdong ¥ 20，058 (2010) 7,100,000
52 廊坊 Langfang Hebei ¥ 16,200 (2004) 3,850,000
53 南宁 Nanning Guangxi ¥ 16,121 (2003) 6,480,000
54 西安 Xi'an Shanxi ¥ 26,259(2008) 8,070,000
55 南通 Nantong Jiangsu ¥ 15,806 (2004) 7,737,900
56 桂林 Guilin Guangxi ¥ 15,775 (2003) 1,340,000
57 芜湖 Wuhu Anhui ¥ 15,366 (2004) 2,245,600
58 兰州 Lanzhou Gansu ¥ 15,051 (2003) 3,200,000
59 扬州 Yangzhou Jiangsu ¥ 14,300 (2003) 4,536,100
60 洛阳 Luoyang Henan ¥ 14,170 (2004) 6,383,900
61 邯郸 Handan Hebei ¥ 13,449 (2005) 1,390,000
62 合肥 Hefei Anhui ¥ 13,378 (2004) 4,446,800
63 汕头 Shantou Guangdong ¥ 13,298 (2005) 4,700,000
64 太原 Taiyuan Shanxi ¥ 42,378 (2008) 3,413,800
65 徐州 Xuzhou Jiangsu ¥ 12,005 (2004) 9,168,500
66 银川 Yinchuan Ningxia ¥ 11,975 (2003) 736,300
67 大同 Datong Shanxi ¥ 11,905 (2005) 3,110,000
68 福州 Fuzhou Fujian ¥ 33,615 (2008) 6,830,000
69 贵阳 Guiyang Guizhou ¥ 11,728 (2003) 3,450,000
70 南平 Nanping Fujian ¥ 11,265 (2004) 2,860,000
71 南阳 Nanyang, Henan Henan ¥ 10,500 10,700,000
72 淮安 Huai'an Jiangsu ¥ 9,597 (2004) 5,240,600
73 淮南 Huainan Anhui ¥ 9,225 (2004) 2,335,798
74 重庆 Chongqing Chongqing ¥ 8,540 31,442,300
75 滁州 Chuzhou Anhui ¥ 8,209 (2004) 4,332,300
76 蚌埠 Bengbu Anhui ¥ 7,621 (2004) 3,469,700
77 开封 Kaifeng Henan ¥ 7,250 (2004) 4,800,000
78 西宁 Xining Qinghai ¥ 6,676 (2005) 2,095,000
79 池州 Chizhou Anhui ¥ 5,660 1,540,000
80 安庆 Anqing Anhui ¥ 5,352 (2003)
81 石家庄 Shijiazhuang Hebei ¥ 29,252 9,090,200
81 宿州 Suzhou Anhui ¥ 3,696 (2003) 6,091,500
82 阜阳 Fuyang Anhui ¥ 2,344 (2002) 8,978,000
83 秦皇岛 Qinhuangdao Hebei ¥ 28,426 (2008) 2,758,200

 

[ramu]

Anyway, China's nominal GDP is going to be around 7.5 trillion USD by this year, and soon becoming over 10 trillion USD by 2013.

And India still has a long way to go in order to compare itself with China.

So In 2012 China's GDP will be 7.5 trillion. I highly doubt that claim. Even if that is the case do you think China will grow at 33.33 % to hit 10 trillion in 2012 ? Please write something sensible and believable.

 

[InFn-0]

Coming back to the topic, this is actually true. With the kind of resources the Chinese have at their disposal, they can do way more kung fu in South Asia than what India can do in the Chinese neighbourhood. Presently lets say India is 10 years behind China, but that is not telling the whole story. With the world looming towards a recession, having the current resource China has is something like an opportunity that comes every 1000 years. Lets not forget, USA became USA because after WW2 everyone was in a bad position, and they were the ones with money.

As we all know, the person with money during bad times is worth infinitely more than a person with money during good times. 10 years from now, South Asia will be transformed completely, so will be most of Africa and other parts of the world which have not developed yet. So even if India gets to a position similar to China in 10 years, by then China will have reaped all the benefits. Im just stating the truth here, correct me if i am wrong.

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So In 2012 China's GDP will be 7.5 trillion. I highly doubt that claim. Even if that is the case do you think China will grow at 33.33 % to hit 10 trillion in 2012 ? Please write something sensible and believable.

Bro nominal GDP growth includes inflation as well. There fore i would say at best $8.5-8.7 trillion is achievable if they post something like a 10% growth and inflation is around 6-7%.

 

[ramu]

Coming back to the topic, this is actually true. With the kind of resources the Chinese have at their disposal, they can do way more kung fu in South Asia than what India can do in the Chinese neighbourhood. Presently lets say India is 10 years behind China, but that is not telling the whole story. With the world looming towards a recession, having the current resource China has is something like an opportunity that comes every 1000 years. Lets not forget, USA became USA because after WW2 everyone was in a bad position, and they were the ones with money.

As we all know, the person with money during bad times is worth infinitely more than a person with money during good times. 10 years from now, South Asia will be transformed completely, so will be most of Africa and other parts of the world which have not developed yet. So even if India gets to a position similar to China in 10 years, by then China will have reaped all the benefits. Im just stating the truth here, correct me if i am wrong.

You know what, China cannot survive the current growth rate if not for the exports and if everyone is in bad shape to who will China export ? So your theory is a bit misplaced given that domestic consumption was what made America what it is and for China that consumption is still from America and Europe.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

So In 2012 China's GDP will be 7.5 trillion. I highly doubt that claim. Even if that is the case do you think China will grow at 33.33 % to hit 10 trillion in 2012 ? Please write something sensible and believable.

Our 2011 GDP gonna hit 7.5 trillion USD, since our Jan-Sept 2011 GDP is already 5 trillion USD.

2009 Jan-Sept: 3.2 trillion USD 2009 Overall: 5 triilion USD

2010 Jan-Sept: 4 trillion USD 2010 Overall: 6 trillion USD

2011 Jan-Sept: 5 trillion USD 2011 Overall: 7.5 trillion USD

You can see the pattern here.

I wonder how long for India's GDP to hit 7.5 trillion?

 

[ashok321]

Coming back to the topic, this is actually true. With the kind of resources the Chinese have at their disposal, they can do way more kung fu in South Asia than what India can do in the Chinese neighbourhood. Presently lets say India is 10 years behind China, but that is not telling the whole story. With the world looming towards a recession, having the current resource China has is something like an opportunity that comes every 1000 years. Lets not forget, USA became USA because after WW2 everyone was in a bad position, and they were the ones with money.

As we all know, the person with money during bad times is worth infinitely more than a person with money during good times. 10 years from now, South Asia will be transformed completely, so will be most of Africa and other parts of the world which have not developed yet. So even if India gets to a position similar to China in 10 years, by then China will have reaped all the benefits. Im just stating the truth here, correct me if i am wrong.

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Bro nominal GDP growth includes inflation as well. There fore i would say at best $8.5-8.7 trillion is achievable if they post something like a 10% growth and inflation is around 6-7%.

The real economic growth rate is a "constant dollar" and is therefore a more accurate look at the rate of economic growth because it is not distorted by the effects of extreme inflation or deflation.

Read more: Real Economic Growth Rate Definition

So whats yr defense now with regards to inflation adjusted GDP`?

 

[PakShah]

Comparing India to China is Arrogant, Ignorant, and embarrassingly stupid.

China is better than India economically, in education, military, GDP per capita, GDP, GDP Power Purchasing Parity, Soft Power, Smart Power, etc.

In what way is India better than China. Please tell us.

China has more and better allies that India.

 

[InFn-0]

You know what, China cannot survive the current growth rate if not for the exports and if everyone is in bad shape to who will China export ? So your theory is a bit misplaced given that domestic consumption was what made America what it is and for China that consumption is still from America and Europe.

You have a good point, considering China has a high export to gdp. But the point i was trying to make is that saying INdia is 10 years behind China is not equal to saying india will be at par with china at 2021 as it seems to me that is what some posters are making it out to be. According to "estimates" it will be around 2050 when India will be at par with China. Ofcourse no one in the correct state of mind would kid himself into thinking he knows what will happen in 50 years, but that is what estimates indicate.

 

[PakShah]

China is considered to be a Great power.

India is not a great power.

India is only a Regional power.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

You know what, China cannot survive the current growth rate if not for the exports and if everyone is in bad shape to who will China export ? So your theory is a bit misplaced given that domestic consumption was what made America what it is and for China that consumption is still from America and Europe.

Our export consists 25% of our economy, and the reduction of our export gonna hurt our growth rate, but it isn't going to collapse our economy.

Since our economy also has shifted toward more consumption based as well.

 

[InFn-0]

The real economic growth rate is a "constant dollar" and is therefore a more accurate look at the rate of economic growth because it is not distorted by the effects of extreme inflation or deflation.

Read more: Real Economic Growth Rate Definition

Dude there is Real Economic "growth", but there is nothing called "Real Economic GDP" if that is what you are indicating. We were discussing Nominal GDP there. Nominal GDP always includes inflation. I would suggest you look more into this subject.

 

[Paan Singh]

China is considered to be a Great power.

India is not a great power.

India is only a Regional power.

if economy is the power even then they are good now not best...and there are lot of other things which makes a country great power..