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Looks like you saw the chart, got distracted by the colors and graphics, jumped to a false conclusion, now you are throwing up red herrings in a feeble attempt to distract attention from the truth that you cannot explain and support the charge that so many often spewed out -- That the US invaded Iraq 'for oil'.

I'm glad we are talking about this issue. In fact, I request the Mod to make a dedicated section on this issue. This is important because it relates directly to the Kyoto Protocol, "Global Warming - aka Climate Change" fiasco, "Green" movement, Developing-versus-Developed nations, etc.

I'll leave interested readers with this little tidbit of fact. About two years ago, several prominent Japanese scientists defended the interests of China, by stating the fact that the major motivator to "curb" greenhouse gas emissions (of selective nations only:angel:) is to retard the progress of development peoples. If instead they promoted fair, responsible, EQUAL PER CAPITA energy consumption that everything would be okay. However, the REAL intent is to restrict the equilibrium from occurring.

However the real issue at stake is the limited (economically/technically feasible) natural resources. The Earth is currently experience a natural stage of Global Cooling (not warming!).

The challenge for humanity is that precious natural resources (including farming land, freshwater, etc -- not only oil&gas) is declining, while population is increasing.
 
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I glad we are talking about this issue.
And I am happy for you that you are getting good exercise dodging the question -- Why should the US invade Iraq 'for oil', as often claimed, when the majority of US oil import are from non-ME sources and that it is cheaper to buy than to invade the country?

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Let me reveal another little secret. It is well known that Alaska forms a major source of oil. What isn't known by the public is that the oil pipeline has been left to erode (due to corrosion), and the reason for that is because Prudoe Bay is running on empty. What also isn't known by most people is Mexico's biggest offshore field is near dry. What isn't known also is Canada's WCSB (Western Canadian Sedimentary Basin) has long peaked as well, conventional oil reserves are running on empty, and shallow gas reserves only have a 3-5 years of any good life left. Tar sands are proving to be loss-making in many pricing scenarios due to the input-output production realities (and fact government of Canada takes ~30% royalties-in-kind).

Now c-o-n-n-e-c-t t-h-e d-o-t-s.

What about the US's share of the Gulf of Mexico offshore? c-o-n-n-e-c-t t-h-e d-o-t-s

not so good at c-o-n-n-e-c-t-i-n-g t-h-e d-o-t-s a-r-e y-o-u.
 
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"...don't give me that innocent crap that there is no U.S media under the control"

They aren't. Just that simple.

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."
1st Amendment to the Constitution of the United States Of America.

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Gullibility, or fundamentalism?

McCarthyism

The Alien Registration Act passed by Congress on 29th June, 1940, made it illegal for anyone in the United States to advocate, abet, or teach the desirability of overthrowing the government. The law also required all alien residents in the United States over 14 years of age to file a comprehensive statement of their personal and occupational status and a record of their political beliefs. Within four months a total of 4,741,971 aliens had been registered. (Gambit, you would have had to register, had you been there! Perhaps your parents already did.)

The main objective of the Alien Registration Act was to undermine the American Communist Party and other left-wing political groups in the United States. It was decided that the House of Un-American Activities Committee (HUAC), that had been set up by Congress under Martin Dies in 1938 to investigate people suspected of unpatriotic behaviour, would be the best vehicle to discover if people were trying to overthrow the government.

In 1947 the House of Un-American Activities Committee (HUAC), chaired by J. Parnell Thomas, began an investigation into the Hollywood Motion Picture Industry. (start of government control of media!) The HUAC interviewed 41 people who were working in Hollywood. These people attended voluntarily and became known as "friendly witnesses". During their interviews they named nineteen people who they accused of holding left-wing views. ( a typical action of government controlling of media!)

One of those named, Bertolt Brecht, a playwright, gave evidence and then left for East Germany. Ten others: Herbert Biberman, Lester Cole, Albert Maltz, Adrian Scott, Samuel Ornitz,, Dalton Trumbo, Edward Dmytryk, Ring Lardner Jr., John Howard Lawson and Alvah Bessie refused to answer any questions.

Known as the Hollywood Ten, they claimed that the 1st Amendment of the United States Constitution gave them the right to do this. The House of Un-American Activities Committee and the courts during appeals disagreed and they all were found guilty of contempt of congress and each was sentenced to between six and twelve months in prison. :hitwall:

Larry Parks was the only actor in the original nineteen people named. He was also the only person on the list who the average moviegoer would have known. Parks agreed to give evidence to the HUAC and admitted that he had joined the Communist Party in 1941 but left it four years later. When asked for the names of fellow members, Parks replied: "I would prefer, if you would allow me, not to mention other people's names. Don't present me with the choice of either being in contempt of this Committee and going to jail or forcing me to really crawl through the mud to be an informer."

The House of Un-American Activities Committee insisted that Parks answered all the questions asked. The HUAC had a private session and two days later it was leaked to the newspapers that Parks had named names. Leo Townsend, Isobel Lennart, Roy Huggins, Richard Collins, Lee J. Cobb, Budd Schulberg and Elia Kazan, afraid they would go to prison, were also willing to name people who had been members of left-wing groups. (This is like an American version of Cultural Revolution!)

In June, 1950, three former FBI agents and a right-wing television producer, Vincent Harnett, published Red Channels, a pamphlet listing the names of 151 writers, directors and performers who they claimed had been members of subversive organisations before the Second World War but had not so far been blacklisted. The names had been compiled from FBI files and a detailed analysis of the Daily Worker, a newspaper published by the American Communist Party.

A free copy of Red Channels was sent to those involved in employing people in the entertainment industry. All those people named in the pamphlet were blacklisted until they appeared in front of the House of Un-American Activities Committee (HUAC) and convinced its members they had completely renounced their radical past.

Edward Dmytryk, one of the original Hollywood Ten, had financial problems as a result of divorcing his wife. Faced with having to sell his plane and encouraged by his new wife, Dmytryk decided to try to get his name removed from the blacklist. On 25th April, 1951, Dmytryk appeared before the House of Un-American Activities Committee again. This time he answered all their questions including the naming of twenty-six former members of left-wing groups.

Dmytryk also revealed how people such as John Howard Lawson, Adrian Scott and Albert Maltz had put him under pressure to make sure his films expressed the views of the Communist Party. This was particularly damaging to those members of the original Hollywood Ten who were at that time involved in court cases with their previous employers.

If people refused to name names when called up to appear before the HUAC, they were added to a blacklist that had been drawn up by the Hollywood film studios. Over 320 people were placed on this list that stopped them from working in the entertainment industry. This included Larry Adler, Stella Adler, Leonard Bernstein, Marc Blitzstein, Joseph Bromberg, Charlie Chaplin, Aaron Copland, Hanns Eisler, Carl Foreman, John Garfield, Howard Da Silva, Dashiell Hammett, E. Y. Harburg, Lillian Hellman, Burl Ives, Arthur Miller, Dorothy Parker, Philip Loeb, Joseph Losey, Anne Revere, Pete Seeger, Gale Sondergaard, Louis Untermeyer, Josh White, Clifford Odets, Michael Wilson, Paul Jarrico, Jeff Corey, John Randolph, Canada Lee, Orson Welles, Paul Green, Sidney Kingsley, Paul Robeson, Richard Wright and Abraham Polonsky.

It was now decided to use the Alien Registration Act against the American Communist Party. Leaders of the party were arrested and in October, 1949, after a nine month trial, eleven members were convicted of violating the act. Over the next two years another 46 members were arrested and charged with advocating the overthrow of the government. Other high profile spy cases at the time involving Alger Hiss, Julius Rosenberg and Ethel Rosenberg, helped to create a deep fear in the United States that a communist conspiracy was taking place.

On 9th February, 1950, Joseph McCarthy, a senator from Wisconsin, made a speech claiming to have a list of 205 people in the State Department that were known to be members of the American Communist Party (late he reduced this figure to 57). The list of names was not a secret and had been in fact published by the Secretary of State in 1946. These people had been identified during a preliminary screening of 3,000 federal employees. Some had been communists but others had been fascists, alcoholics and sexual deviants. If screened, McCarthy's own drink problems and sexual preferences would have resulted in him being put on the list. :rofl:

McCarthy also began receiving information from his friend, J. Edgar Hoover, head of the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI). William Sullivan, one of Hoover's agents, later admitted that: "We were the ones who made the McCarthy hearings possible. We fed McCarthy all the material he was using."

With the war going badly in Korea and communist advances in Eastern Europe and in China, the American public were genuinely frightened about the possibilities of internal subversion. McCarthy, was made chairman of the Government Committee on Operations of the Senate, and this gave him the opportunity to investigate the possibility of communist subversion.

For the next two years McCarthy's committee investigated various government departments and questioned a large number of people about their political past. Some lost their jobs after they admitted they had been members of the Communist Party. McCarthy made it clear to the witnesses that the only way of showing that they had abandoned their left-wing views was by naming other members of the party.

This witch-hunt and anti-communist hysteria became known as McCarthyism. Some left-wing artists and intellectuals were unwilling to live in this type of society and people such as Joseph Losey, Richard Wright, Ollie Harrington, James Baldwin, Herbert Biberman, Lester Cole and Chester Himes went to live and work in Europe.

At first Joseph McCarthy mainly targeted Democrats associated with the New Deal policies of the 1930s. Harry S. Truman and members of his Democratic administration such as George Marshall and Dean Acheson, were accused of being soft on communism. Truman was portrayed as a dangerous liberal and McCarthy's campaign helped the Republican candidate, Dwight Eisenhower, win the presidential election in 1952.

After what had happened to McCarthy's opponents in the 1950 elections, most politicians were unwilling to criticize him in the Senate. As the Boston Post pointed out: "Attacking him is this state is regarded as a certain method of committing suicide." (Did McCarthy became Mao of USA? :lol:) One notable exception was William Benton, the owner of Encyclopaedia Britannica, and a senator from Connecticut. McCarthy and his supporters immediately began smearing Benton. It was claimed that while Assistant Secretary of State, he had protected known communists and that he had been responsible for the purchase and display of "lewd art works". Benton, who was also accused of being disloyal by Joseph McCarthy for having much of his company's work printed in England, was defeated in the 1952 elections.

In 1952 McCarthy appointed Roy Cohn as the chief counsel to the Government Committee on Operations of the Senate. Cohn had been recommended by J. Edgar Hoover, who had been impressed by his involvement in the prosecution of Julius Rosenberg and Ethel Rosenberg. Soon after Cohn was appointed, he recruited his best friend, David Schine, to become his chief consultant.

McCarthy's next target was what he believed were anti-American books in libraries. (government media control!) His researchers looked into the Overseas Library Program and discovered 30,000 books by "communists, pro-communists, former communists and anti anti-communists." After the publication of this list, these books were removed from the library shelves. :flame:

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In October, 1953, McCarthy began investigating communist infiltration into the military. Attempts were made by McCarthy to discredit Robert Stevens, the Secretary of the Army. The president, Dwight Eisenhower, was furious and realised that it was time to bring an end to McCarthy's activities.

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Gullibility, or fundamentalism?

McCarthyism

The Alien Registration Act passed by Congress on 29th June, 1940, made it illegal for anyone in the United States to advocate, abet, or teach the desirability of overthrowing the government. The law also required all alien residents in the United States over 14 years of age to file a comprehensive statement of their personal and occupational status and a record of their political beliefs. Within four months a total of 4,741,971 aliens had been registered. (Gambit, you would have had to register, had you been there! Perhaps your parents already did.)
That is funny...Perhaps the fact that YOU can smear McCarthy and company without fear of repercussions mean something?

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That is funny...Perhaps the fact that YOU can smear McCarthy and company without fear of repercussions mean something?

:lol:

Threatening us? :lol:

How pitiful, inane and inferior!

You wish you could be McCarthy the second to control free people’s brain through threat, coercion, blackmail…, to undermine/sabotage the 1st Amendment? We the people are certainly willing to defend our freedom and the law.

Believe it or not, the “YOU” you used perhaps is more plural than your myopic mind has ever imagined. Check out the link on my previous post. :cheers:
 
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Threatening us? :lol:

How pitiful, inane and inferior!

You wish you could be McCarthy the second to control free people’s brain through threat, coercion, blackmail…, to undermine/sabotage the 1st Amendment? We the people are certainly willing to defend our freedom and the law.

Believe it or not, the “YOU” you used perhaps is more plural than your myopic mind has ever imagined. Check out the link on my previous post. :cheers:
:rofl:

YOU ? Who believe the Chinese government is just about the best thing happened to mankind?
 
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:rofl:

YOU ? Who believe the Chinese government is just about the best thing happened to mankind?

Please you confess to the public that you are lying like malicious McCarthy, :tdown: otherwise show your proof.
 
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Even crazy guy like me won't believe it... It's wasting time to post stuff like this.
 
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Re: Chinese Navy To surpass U.S navy by 2015

Its not gonna happens in even 2030, look at ISN's battle groupss...
 
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i can guess the author which nation is he from without reading this stupid article!:rofl:
 
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cmon............ PLAN is not able to surpass USAN in 30years.....
 
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What was the purpose behind starting a year old burried thread?
 
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