Chinese Navy’s Type 054A Frigates visit South-east Asia

[TaimiKhan]

I heard that pakistan may purchase 3-4 Type 054A frigates. The link about this trade(in Chinese):
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Chances are great, as we badly need good surface vessels, after F-22P frigate, the next option is Type-054As as we can't rely on western countries to supply us such ships, China is the only country which will be willing to give us such an advanced tech frigate and reliability of China has no doubt. Plus financially also the Chinese friends can provide us good options which do not burden us and we can pay back easily.

Plus, Type-054A is the best option to counter IN from our perspective.

Hope we order soon and get them soon too. As by next year rest of the 2 F-22Ps would be with PN.

 

[aimarraul]

Chances are great, as we badly need good surface vessels, after F-22P frigate, the next option is Type-054As as we can't rely on western countries to supply us such ships, China is the only country which will be willing to give us such an advanced tech frigate and reliability of China has no doubt. Plus financially also the Chinese friends can provide us good options which do not burden us and we can pay back easily.

Plus, Type-054A is the best option to counter IN from our perspective.

Hope we order soon and get them soon too. As by next year rest of the 2 F-22Ps would be with PN.

that article only said PN would purchase bigger frigate,can't tell if it's 054 or 054A

 

[SEAL]

Type 054A is stealth frigate?

 

[faithfulguy]

Type 054A is stealth frigate?

It does have stealth capability. What China can supply Pakistan is the type 52C class destroyer. This class contains air defence capability as an Aegis air defence system. However, supply of this ship to Pakistan would set off yet another round of arms race in South Asia as India would than want to acquire similar type of air defence destroyer.

 

[grey boy 2]

Type 054A is stealth frigate?

Type 054A frigate - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Like the Type 054, the Type 054A also incorporates many stealth features: sloped hull design; radar absorbent materials; and reduction of surface equipment and features.[3]

 

[ebungo]

It does have stealth capability. What China can supply Pakistan is the type 52C class destroyer. This class contains air defence capability as an Aegis air defence system. However, supply of this ship to Pakistan would set off yet another round of arms race in South Asia as India would than want to acquire similar type of air defence destroyer.

It doesn't matter if pakistan navy have it or not .India will be having it cause china have it

 

[faithfulguy]

It doesn't matter if pakistan navy have it or not .India will be having it cause china have it

This is not a good idea for India as China's economy is developing faster than India's economy. Also, China's focus is not on India but US military. US is way ahead of China in economic terms and technology. China is catching up to US in terms of economic growth(in absolute growth and percentage growth) but US is pulling away from China in technology.

Since India is behind China in economy and technology ( and is falling further behind day after day) and is way way behind US in economy and technology. (India is catching up economically in terms of percentage wise but not in absolute growth*) India should side with either one of them and create a triange relationship. ( In coordination with Russia) With the given political climate, Russia will side with China. As for India, its directionless. India should make up its mind on whether it want to join the US camp or China/Russia camp.

* India's absolute economic growth is higher than that of US in 2009 because of US negative economic growth. But in an "average" year, India's economic growth is higher in percentage but lower than US in absolute terms as US economy is 10 times higher than that of India.

 

[TaimiKhan]

that article only said PN would purchase bigger frigate,can't tell if it's 054 or 054A

Type-054 had a lot of things Made in Russia in it as per my understanding and lacked capability as per the A version, as per my study Type-054A is nearly 100% indigenous version and being inducted in numbers in the PLAN. As this ship seems to be a capable multi role platform.

Plus, after F-22P, the only bigger and capable ship I see in Chinese hands is the Type-054A, a true multi role platform, with very good capability as per our requirements. And it recently came to Pakistan also from its mission from Somalia, and this visit was not originally planned, rather at the end it was planned and one of the reason quoted for the visit was to let PN have a look into it, offcourse PN can have a look into it in China or most probably they have already checked it out, but it was kind of a look-in visit too for other members of the PN.

 

[faithfulguy]

Can someone talk about type 52C class destroyer and is China planning to supply Pakistan this ship? Also, is China mass producing type 52C destroyer?

 

[TaimiKhan]

Can someone talk about type 52C class destroyer and is China planning to supply Pakistan this ship? Also, is China mass producing type 52C destroyer?

Don't think so PN would be getting Type-52C, as this is more of a fleet defence ship for air threats, with a 100+KM SAM system as main arsenal, but Type-054A is more like a multi-role thing with capability to launch cruise missiles also. Type-054A matches more to PN requirements compared to Type-052C.

 

[592257001]

Regarding shchinese's idea of having CJ-10 on 054A, it's actually true. 054A DOES have the capability of fitting long range land attack missiles

That's why there are two types of missile installed in the mid section of 054A. The Anti- air and anti-sub missiles are in the front VLS.
PS: flaming and insulting is not a a good habit, especially toward out taiwan brothers.

 

[592257001]

Type-054 had a lot of things Made in Russia in it as per my understanding and lacked capability as per the A version, as per my study Type-054A is nearly 100% indigenous version and being inducted in numbers in the PLAN. As this ship seems to be a capable multi role platform.

Plus, after F-22P, the only bigger and capable ship I see in Chinese hands is the Type-054A, a true multi role platform, with very good capability as per our requirements. And it recently came to Pakistan also from its mission from Somalia, and this visit was not originally planned, rather at the end it was planned and one of the reason quoted for the visit was to let PN have a look into it, offcourse PN can have a look into it in China or most probably they have already checked it out, but it was kind of a look-in visit too for other members of the PN.

Pakistan will probably want the 054A since it gives pakistan navy a true fleet defense capability and a boasted anti-sub capability with its HQ-16 missiles and the rocket propelled torpedoes. Plus, there is not much difference between the role of F-22 and the orginal 054
, so why would pakistan want the orginal 054A?

 

[stax]

Can someone talk about type 52C class destroyer and is China planning to supply Pakistan this ship? Also, is China mass producing type 52C destroyer?

52C class is not the target destroyer, so there is only two such destroyers in our navy.
After the target destroyer is finalized and equiped by our navy, I think it will be sold to Pakistan

 

[faithfulguy]

52C class is not the target destroyer, so there is only two such destroyers in our navy.
After the target destroyer is finalized and equiped by our navy, I think it will be sold to Pakistan

Which one is the Target destroyer?

 

[shchinese]

Regarding shchinese's idea of having CJ-10 on 054A, it's actually true. 054A DOES have the capability of fitting long range land attack missiles

please just go to the CD forum, they have photos showing the CJ-10 mounted onto the 054a in its typical green painting.

CJ-10 was originally called DH-10, meaning DongHai-10, it will only surprise me if it can not be fired from our major warships.



btw, there is also an upgraded version of 054a. at least one has already been completed. the wikipeida (which is never a reliable source) mark it as 054b while others call it 054a+.