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I'm still waiting, eagerly, your answer: Now, if it's not a delusion, either hashishi induced or mental condition caused, tell us the reason why "Hui will rise and then the Tibetans, the Mongols, the few Manchus left and the Miaos and the Yis!", one ethinic group at a time.

I have no time to waste on a fact unilaterally known except to the mind controlled Chinese and so an appropriate reply from another forum.

Rebellions are indeed few and far between. I don't contest that.

Discontent can only be there if one is aware of the inequalities. That is possible only if one knows of those inequalities. And the media or population movement alone can bring to light such inequalities.

The media is state controlled and only projects and highlights the State's success and point of view and views and attempts a ''comfort'' feeling! The Chinese system of population migration control i.e. Hokuo also prevents people knowing the differences and inequalities within the country. Though, owing to pressures of opening economy, it has been modified, but the control still remains.

Therefore, how can there be any discontent or rebellion?

The Uighurs and Tibetan, however, have their people in exile and through the grapevine, and which they believe and have more faith in than that of the State handouts and news, they realise their plight. Hence, the rebellion.

In fact, censorship and the State propaganda and media control, actually is dangerous for the State itself! This media control and propaganda when it clashes with that of the grapevine creates more dissension and leads to rebellion as was seen in Tibet.

You are entitled to your views of His Holiness and in your belief of what your State controlled media portrays!

In addition to the above, China also subjects foreigners to censorship and so one cannot say that there is no mind control in China.

RFI - Internet censorship causes Olympic scandal

http://www.worldaffairsboard.com/cur...-new-post.html

And as the Punjabis say - Kara le gal!

And as the Skhs say - Bole so Nihal!
 
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I have no time to waste on a fact unilaterally known except to the mind controlled Chinese and so an appropriate reply from another forum.



And as the Punjabis say - Kara le gal!

And as the Skhs say - Bole so Nihal!

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You squander plenty time repeating enormous trite lines and generating large quantity of false statements, how come you have no time when needed to find truth?

Your copy and paste has nothing to do with "Hui will rise and then the Tibetans, the Mongols, the few Manchus left and the Miaos and the Yis!"

If your statement isn’t a sort of your whim, present us with credible study/research results on each ethnic group you’ve proclaimed.
 
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You call cancers of democrazy as warts, no wonder India tops list of murder numbers worldwide. BBC NEWS | South Asia | India tops list of murder numbers

Infamously known throughout the world that India Muslims 'have lowest rank', lower than low-caste Hindus. BBC NEWS | South Asia | India Muslims 'have lowest rank' http://www2.ohchr.org/english/issues/minorities/docs/wmc.doc


It is unbelievably painful to see that Muslims are suffering daily under you democracy, as indicated by statistics STATISTICS OF ANTI-MUSLIM VIOLENCE IN INDIA « So long…So Far…So What…



With no denial that there are some Islamic extremists, and that Hindus are also suffered, only the politicians of Indian democratic system, who play dirty democrazy games, spread hatreds, use the free democratic media to propagandize ideals to fool the ordinary people for their own profit, are the only gainers. As analysts agree, communal violence produces electoral incentives in India, as voting is all about emotion agitation. http://assets.cambridge.org/97805218/29168/excerpt/9780521829168_excerpt.pdf
http://www.sasnet.lu.se/EASASpapers/32RoshniSengupta.pdf

“With so many terrorist bombs going on, things are still calm!” So your RAW agents are calmly watching the innocent dying action-less? Your democratic politicians calmly want more violence to agitate emotions for their voting purposes? And the terrorists are let calmly prepare another action?

Of course, I fortunately don’t live in democratic India. So be it calm.

Hukou system currently only tracks birth and permanent residence of a person. It is applied to all Chinese. There is no discrimination against ethnic group or religion background. There are hundreds of millions migration workers all over China and contribute indispensably to the growth of the nation, tell me how Hukou system restricted them from moving around?

As your messy debating logic swings wildly to opium issue, it is Indians who planted those infidel drugs and you seem to feel very glorious of your deeds? Mind you that thanks to strong leadership of CPC, the ****** behavior was resolutely eradicated shortly after the establishment of PRC.

I'm still waiting, eagerly, your answer: Now, if it's not a delusion, either hashishi induced or mental condition caused, tell us the reason why "Hui will rise and then the Tibetans, the Mongols, the few Manchus left and the Miaos and the Yis!", one ethinic group at a time.

Good set of statistics there.

I feel sorry for Indian Muslims. Must be horrible being one.
 
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:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

You squander plenty time repeating enormous trite lines and generating large quantity of false statements, how come you have no time when needed to find truth?

Your copy and paste has nothing to do with "Hui will rise and then the Tibetans, the Mongols, the few Manchus left and the Miaos and the Yis!"

If your statement isn’t a sort of your whim, present us with credible study/research results on each ethnic group you’ve proclaimed.

Does indicate your frustration since you have no facts to back up.

Good fundamentalist literature.
 
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Good set of statistics there.

I feel sorry for Indian Muslims. Must be horrible being one.

The Indian Islamic children have Islamic educations.
The Indian Islamic children go to the Mosque irrespective of age
Their Indian mullahs sermons are not cleared and checked before given.
The Indian mullahs are not appointed by the govt.

Indeed, this freedom of faith is bad for the Indian Islamic people compared to the way the Chinese treat their Islamic people or even the Christians.

I appreciate that you feel sorry the Indian Islamic people since I presume you believe that minorities should live in bondage!
 
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The Indian Islamic children have Islamic educations.
The Indian Islamic children go to the Mosque irrespective of age

Why not fund their Islamic education better then (fund physics laboratories, chemistry ones so on), so that they can compete with the other people when they come out of school?

I think you'll find that many Indian Muslims would go to public schools if only you built them such schools to go to.
 
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Why not fund their Islamic education better then (fund physics laboratories, chemistry ones so on), so that they can compete with the other people when they come out of school?

I think you'll find that many Indian Muslims would go to public schools if only you built them such schools to go to.

If you visit Indian newspapers you will realise the funds that are there for Islamic upliftment.

There are many Islamic children in public schools and schools in India are a dime to a dozen!

There are also special rules for schools of minorities where they do not come under govt rules even if funded by the govt!
 
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then what does your statements mean?

He is not aware of what is Indian education.

He is living in his own world and so he said 'huh''.


As Christ said - Forgive them Father, they know not what they do!
 
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If you visit Indian newspapers you will realise the funds that are there for Islamic upliftment.

"There appears to be a certain pattern of institutional discrimination in the establishment of government primary schools in the district. Thus, Muslim areas tend to have proportionally less such schools than non-Muslim localities."

Muslims in Bahraich, UP's Most Marginalised District | Indian Muslims

And this is the root of the problem. Indian Muslims are discriminated against before they can even speak, giving Indian Hindu children a headstart that marginalizes the Indian Muslims when it comes to competing for the workplace.

There are many Islamic children in public schools and schools in India are a dime to a dozen!

This sentence should be:

"There are many Islamic children in public schools and schools in India are dime to a dozen.... but there are more for Hindu children"

There are also special rules for schools of minorities where they do not come under govt rules even if funded by the govt!

How does this help when more schools are built for Hindus by the government? The Indian Muslims are just going to be less educated and therefore less employable by definition.
 
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In any case, we are moving off topic, so here's getting back on track:

Anxious China steps up security

Bus drivers undergo anti-terror training; screening on Beijing subway upgraded

August 1, 2008
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Bill Schiller

ASIA BUREAU

BEIJING–The bus bombs exploded in sequence, shattering the Monday morning commute of residents in the Chinese city of Kunming, some 2,100 kilometres southwest of Beijing.

But the reverberations were felt all the way to the capital, where final preparations were underway for the Olympic Games, which begin a week from today.

The first blast occurred at 7:05 a.m., on a bus travelling Route 54. It killed one and injured 10.

The second detonated at 8:10 a.m. on the same route, killing another and wounding four.

The blasts, though small, seemed calculated to send a message.

This was just last week – July 21– and back in Beijing China's security establishment got it.

That's why this week Beijing bus driver Liu Xiwu, and thousands like him, found themselves in conference rooms across the city undergoing anti-terror training.

"We've never done anything like this since I've been driving," said Liu, who had just emerged from a training session with 40 other drivers. "And I've been driving for 20 years.

"But it's all in the name of a safe Olympics," Liu explained, "because public transportation is a sensitive area."

Indeed it is: with 18,000 buses carrying 13 million passengers daily, authorities in Beijing saw the Kunming bombings as a tragedy and a warning signal.

The city's Olympic venues may be blanketed with security personnel. And ground-to-air missiles may point skywards near the Bird's Nest National Stadium to fend off air attacks.

But until this week there seemed to be no plan to guard the buses that wind their way along the serpentine routes across the city's highways and bi-ways.

Suddenly buses seemed a soft target, vulnerable to anyone wishing to do China harm.

So beginning today bus drivers, conductors and some 6,000 security personnel will be conducting security checks on all passengers in the city's bus system – especially those carrying bags or packages.

"Security staff will observe, sniff and make inquiries," Feng Qingfu, a senior official with the Beijing Bus Company said.

Some staff will also be carrying electronic security scanners, Feng added.

If commuters balk at the checks, they'll be denied boarding.

If they seem suspicious, police will be summoned.

Just yesterday, authorities also announced an upgrade in security checks on Beijing's subway system. Whereas larger bags and knapsacks only were required to be put through airport-style scanners, now all bags, even handbags, will be required to pass through.

And every person entering Tiananmen Square will also have to submit to security checks.

Where Beijing's focus was once on staging the most awesome Olympic celebration the world has ever seen – a testament to the country's arrival on the world stage as a major player – today the focus is on holding a safe Olympics.

Chinese President Hu Jintao told fellow Communist leaders recently that "the task of hosting a safe Olympic Games" is paramount.

Few would deny the threat of terrorism is real. Interpol, the French-based international policing organization, has said publicly that security for these Games remains a real concern.

Those threats could come from outside or inside the country.

After all, China has had to use force to quell the restive regions of Tibet and Xinjiang in recent years, where some continue to bristle under Chinese rule.

Adding to security anxieties this week, a shadowy group emerged on a video claiming responsibility for the Kunming bombings – as well as another bombing in Shanghai in May that killed three.

The three-minute video, obtained under circumstances that have yet to be explained by the Washington-based security firm Intelcenter, begins with Beijing's Olympic logo going up in flames as a rocket hits an Olympic venue.

Then a turbaned man dressed in military fatigues, flanked by two gunmen, introduces himself as Seyfullah and identifies his group as the Turkestan Islamic Party, a group that sounds like the outlawed East Turkestan Islamic Movement.

He promises to carry out further attacks during the Olympics.

The video has been met with some skepticism by some long-time China observers. "Seyfullah" – his face obscured as are those of his gun-toting comrades – plainly gets some dates wrong relating to events, and mentions an attack in Guangdong of which no one seems to have ever heard.

It could be real. And maybe not.

Although the Chinese government has taken great pains to say they do not believe the Kunming bombings were perpetrated by terrorists – the rationale being that it might prove too embarrassing to admit a security lapse during the countdown to the Olympics – the government's preparations tell a different story.

"The training has made us much more alert now," says bus driver Liu Xiwu. "There will be worldwide attention on us. We're confident we can hold a successful Games."

Toronto Star
 
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Even Hakeem Lulman did not have medicine for one ailment.

Guess many here are afflicted with that disease.

Therefore keeping on repeating the same old ghisa pita raag.

As discussed in another thread, why is it that Pakistani Muslims have not been able to reduce the education gap with Indians in 60 years when there was supposedly no discrimination against them?

Why would a similar % of Muslim literacy in India as in Pakistan a conspiracy in India but sheer brilliance and dedication in Pakistan?

Why are Balochistan and the Pushtun areas still dismal in education? Is that a conspiracy too?

In no country are all ethnicities equally successful. Let me give a quote by a Pakistani writer.

Because of the small size of England, the Pakistani community was able to physically concentrate, with many cities having large sections that are almost a Pakistani enclave, where one doesn’t even need knowledge of English language. Education is sadly neglected, and Pakistani children are the worst performing in British schools. In contrast, Indian children are the best performing, even better than White Britishers. These educational failures bode even worse for the future.

Pakistan Link - Nayyer Ali

Are they also discriminated by the government.

The story is the same across many countries where there are large immigrants from both countries.

But of course one thing that one can't expect from some is intellectual honesty and the courage to face the truth.

So much easier to blame someone for all your failures!
 
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^^^This whole discrimination thing is bullshit.

Literacy rates are 90% in Mizoram, which comes quite low on the list of funds allocation for anything. Ultimately, it depends on how much the society values education.

States like Kerala have a history of respect for education and learning, which goes back to the days of the Travancore kingdom and much further back.
 
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