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Chinese leader 'kept quite' about coronavirus - Xi's involvement in virus outbreak raises questions

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/asian-...-ed-derogatory-reference-china-title-n1132836

Another self denial... typical american tactics.

Do American racists can differentiate Taiwanese Chinese, Singapore Chinese , Hong Konger or Malaysian Chinese when they make the slur or assault them?

That's an Op-Ed article not a news article. People can write anything from Trump is an A-hole to I have a healthy sex life with a Martian. Sort of like https://www.theonion.com/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Op-ed

Plus as usual your interpretation of the phrase is different than ours.
https://www.chinasmack.com/westerners-never-called-chinese-sick-men-of-asia-reactions

"...This is actually a misunderstanding——the West used “Sick Man” to describe the Chinese government of the late Qing Dynasty for its terribly stagnated political reforms, but our compatriots strangely interpreted it as a certain “discrimination of physique” that the West had towards Chinese people.
 
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That's an Op-Ed article not a news article. People can write anything from Trump is an A-hole to I have a healthy sex life with a Martian.
That sounds up the sentiment of American leadership and neo-con. If these article is from some small fried US website, maybe I can count it as some minority. But such low quality article with racist heading can somehow horribly approved and allow publish from one of the major US media. More or less speaks something.

You can give 1000 excuses to defend crap US but it will not denial the fact of US imperialism and despicable.
 
That's an Op-Ed article not a news article. People can write anything from Trump is an A-hole to I have a healthy sex life with a Martian. Sort of like https://www.theonion.com/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Op-ed

Plus as usual your interpretation of the phrase is different than ours.
https://www.chinasmack.com/westerners-never-called-chinese-sick-men-of-asia-reactions

"...This is actually a misunderstanding——the West used “Sick Man” to describe the Chinese government of the late Qing Dynasty for its terribly stagnated political reforms, but our compatriots strangely interpreted it as a certain “discrimination of physique” that the West had towards Chinese people.
Apparently not.
Sacking row over firefighter's outburst at PM
A firefighter whose expletive-laden rant aimed at Australia's prime minister went viral says he has been sacked

 
So what? CIA paid some Chinese large sum to write rubbish.... Its not something new.

https://wwd.com/business-news/business-features/iff-anti-fur-film-china-furs-1203073377/


The latest salvo between the fur industry and antifur groups is an assertion by the International Fur Federation that a 2009 viral video depicting the skinning of live animals was a “staged snuff film,” which “misleads the public with deceptive claims of fur industry practices.”



According to a statement by the two Chinese fur skinners who appeared in the video, two unidentified antifur investigators approached the men and offered them lunch (or money to buy lunch) if they skinned an animal alive. The skinners complied, but later regretted the horrific act.

Yep, we are going to believe a paid CCP troll, how are you getting access to the Internet?
 
Yep, we are going to believe a paid CCP troll, how are you getting access to the Internet?
Everybody is equal in China...just some are deemed more equal than others.

Don't think he is in China, in fact I doubt he was even Chinese to begin with.....

He once said on replied to my post that he "Called Back" to China suggested that he is not in China. Judging from the way he say certain thing, I don't think he suit the profile of a Chinese, and if he was a Chinese, he was probably born overseas.
 
Don't think he is in China, in fact I doubt he was even Chinese to begin with.....

He once said on replied to my post that he "Called Back" to China suggested that he is not in China. Judging from the way he say certain thing, I don't think he suit the profile of a Chinese, and if he was a Chinese, he was probably born overseas.

Ohh so he's just another Chinese bootlicker? Enjoying all the benefits of living in a democracy?
 
The Chinese Communist Party calls it "discourse management". It's more than mere censorship and bigger than propaganda. And Beijing is pretty good at it. The party uses it to control its own people, but also to manage foreign governments.

Take the new coronavirus, for instance. It may be a made-in-China global pandemic, and China might have bungled its handling of it, but that's somehow irrelevant and China's government says it's "unhappy" with Australia. Come again?

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Illustration: Dionne Gain


The outbreak is classified by the World Health Organisation as a global health emergency. It was created in China, of course. The consensus among virologists is that the likely cause was the Chinese authorities' persistent tolerance of unsafe animal and food handling practices.

After the 2003 outbreak of a novel coronavirus, the SARS epidemic, the Chinese government banned all trade in wild animals. Once the crisis had passed, the authorities relaxed the ban, announcing 54 types of exemption. In other words, it was going to happen again one day. Then, once this outbreak was discovered, the Chinese authorities seriously mismanaged it. This is now the subject of frenetic blame-shifting inside China.


When the first cases started turning up in the city of Wuhan in mid-December, two weeks before the official disclosure on December 31 that there was a new virus, sick people were turned away from local hospitals and sent home to infect other people and die. The hospitals were told to report "zero infections".

Why? Because an important meeting of provincial and city officials was under way in Wuhan and only good news was permitted. The cover-ups and delays were "reprehensible" according to an eminent Australian virologist, John Mackenzie.

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Chinese President Xi Jinping.CREDIT:AP

Famously, eight doctors in Wuhan who tried to raise the alarm before the official announcement were detained by police and ordered to shut up. One, Li Wenliang, caught the virus and died from it, at the age of 34. Dr Li is now considered a martyr in China. Li's last public statement was an appeal for free speech. It has since been censored.

And while Beijing initially was praised for swiftly circulating abroad the vital clinical details of the virus, subsequent revelations show the opposite is true. "The genome sequence – crucial for rapid development of diagnostics needed in an outbreak response – was not released until January 12, 17 days after the preliminary sequence data were obtained," four scientists have concluded in an article in the medical journal The Lancet. The scientists include members of the emergency committee of the World Health Organisation.

Official reporting of the number of people infected has gyrated bizarrely and inexplicably. The delays and cover-ups have made China's people distrustful and fearful. As hundreds of millions lock themselves at home out of fear, the economic cost of the virus mounts. China's President, Xi Jinping, has responded by squarely blaming local officials in Wuhan for the delays and cover-ups.

But the Wuhan authorities, returning the favour, said in an interview on January 27 with the state-owned China Central Television that they were not able to report the virus until authorised by Beijing.

A furious Xi is disciplining local officials. About 400 so far have been punished. Last week, Xi sacked the topmost Communist Party official for the province in which Wuhan is located, Hubei. And Xi's regime has mobilised massively to manage popular opinion. A top-level edict went out in early February instructing Chinese media managers that it was time for "telling the moving stories of how those on the frontline are preventing and fighting the virus" and "showcasing the unity of the Chinese people in the face of the virus".


The central propaganda authority said it would dispatch 300 propaganda agents – though it called them "journalists" – to the "frontline" in Hubei to make sure the required happy news stories were supplied.

President Xi has been lauded in headlines like this from one state-owned outlet: "Following the Example of General Secretary Xi Jinping, For a Loyal and Heroic Struggle for Early Victory." Catchy, huh?

A noted veteran political commentator, Willy Wo-Lap Lam of the Chinese University of Hong Kong, tells me: "The official state media have glorified Xi as the brilliant and effective man to deal with the outbreak. In actual fact, this is the toughest test of his power since he took over nine years ago. He's accused of not divulging the truth about the virus and the number of casualties, of being too slow to mobilise medical supplies to the affected area, and for the people in the huge province of Hubei being left to their own devices under quarantine, without adequate resources from the central government."

Lam says that while the media is dripping with "feelgood and upbeat stories about how we are winning the war against the virus", it's not convincing many people. "People do not believe the official version because of the long-standing tradition of the Chinese Communist Party to hide the facts and glorify the supposed achievements of the top leaders. For example they did the same thing in the SARS epidemic. People now see this as playing the SARS trajectory." In that case, the Chinese authorities covered up the reality of the disease for three years.

So, in a sure sign that Xi feels the need to better deflect blame, a party magazine broke big news on the weekend. It disclosed that Xi had taken personal control of the outbreak response on January 7. This was 13 days earlier than had been known. The Qiushi magazine reported a speech, secret till now, by Xi to his top officials ordering the quarantining of Wuhan, among other things. Why is this significant? To protect him from the criticism that he was too slow to react.

But while it was "a story intended to be in Xi's self-defence", says Lam, "the fact that he mentioned the virus in a closed meeting two weeks before the national mobilisation doesn't help much – you have to tell the public."

Xi is fighting for his reputation in this titanic episode of "discourse management", although his grip on power is not in doubt.

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A cyclist walks through disinfectant spray in northern China.CREDIT:AP

But even as Beijing is struggling with the consequences of so much bungling, so much death, so much damage worldwide, its officials still manage to turn this shocking culpability into an asset in managing the discourse with the wider world.

fter the Morrison government decided to protect Australia from the virus by imposing a ban on people travelling from or through China, the Chinese embassy had the gall to complain – wrongly – that the Chinese government hadn't been given advance notice. And to accuse Canberra of an overreaction.

China has imposed draconian bans on its own people, in areas home to some 50 million. Yet Beijing's mouthpiece People's Daily accused other countries that have imposed travel bans of "racism". This list would include not only Australia and the US but also Singapore and Japan and Vietnam.

This is preposterous yet somewhat successful "discourse management". How so? Because no leader, no official in Australia has had the courage to speak the plain truth to this authoritarian propaganda. No, Beijing, you made this disaster. We are merely trying to survive it.

Peter Hartcher is international editor.

https://www.smh.com.au/world/asia/t...a-but-no-one-will-say-it-20200217-p541hk.html
 
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Yeah china will make corona virus and use it in china, you are out of your mind. Here is the reality, it was made in America with Israhell's help and exported to china to bring down the chinese economy because they can't fight with china using any other way.

so please go and wash your face and STFU
 
Yeah china will make corona virus and use it in china, you are out of your mind. Here is the reality, it was made in America with Israhell's help and exported to china to bring down the chinese economy because they can't fight with china using any other way.

so please go and wash your face and STFU


Did you care to read? No you didn't because your mind is hard fixed on being pro China, and is evident in your reply.
Same kind of mindset who deny China's persecution of Muslims despite there being a great deal of evidence on the Internet, and reports from different Muslim fact finding missions from different nations, and even a statement by Imran Khan on "deliberate" silence on the issue.

Might want to take a dip into the water of reality and do some research on what you are talking about before talking about it?
 
Did you care to read? No you didn't because your mind is hard fixed on being pro China, and is evident in your reply.
Same kind of mindset who deny China's persecution of Muslims despite there being a great deal of evidence on the Internet, and reports from different Muslim fact finding missions from different nations, and even a statement by Imran Khan on "deliberate" silence on the issue.

Might want to take a dip into the water of reality and do some research on what you are talking about before talking about it?

No I don't need to read non sense.
 
It's called "Self Inflicted Ignorance" my friend :)

This guy posting crap like this is an obvious Chinese bootlicker, maybe he should go live in China? Wonder why he is living in a democratic country.

Yeah china will make corona virus and use it in china, you are out of your mind. Here is the reality, it was made in America with Israhell's help and exported to china to bring down the chinese economy because they can't fight with china using any other way.

so please go and wash your face and STFU

Why are you living in the UK? Why don't you live in China, since you keep bending down and taking it from the Chinese?
 
Did you care to read? No you didn't because your mind is hard fixed on being pro China, and is evident in your reply.
Same kind of mindset who deny China's persecution of Muslims despite there being a great deal of evidence on the Internet, and reports from different Muslim fact finding missions from different nations, and even a statement by Imran Khan on "deliberate" silence on the issue.

Might want to take a dip into the water of reality and do some research on what you are talking about before talking about it?
Really! More like you try hard to stay in the same line with American and Turkey smearing China... There is no denying there is a systematic fakes lies against China about Uighur to cause distrust.

https://www.blackagendareport.com/my-trip-china-exposed-shameful-lies-peddled-american-empire
 
The Chinese Communist Party calls it "discourse management". It's more than mere censorship and bigger than propaganda. And Beijing is pretty good at it. The party uses it to control its own people, but also to manage foreign governments.

Take the new coronavirus, for instance. It may be a made-in-China global pandemic, and China might have bungled its handling of it, but that's somehow irrelevant and China's government says it's "unhappy" with Australia. Come again?

3a53d4eefe5814e21f040b0a0491cecc53b23226

Illustration: Dionne Gain


The outbreak is classified by the World Health Organisation as a global health emergency. It was created in China, of course. The consensus among virologists is that the likely cause was the Chinese authorities' persistent tolerance of unsafe animal and food handling practices.

After the 2003 outbreak of a novel coronavirus, the SARS epidemic, the Chinese government banned all trade in wild animals. Once the crisis had passed, the authorities relaxed the ban, announcing 54 types of exemption. In other words, it was going to happen again one day. Then, once this outbreak was discovered, the Chinese authorities seriously mismanaged it. This is now the subject of frenetic blame-shifting inside China.


When the first cases started turning up in the city of Wuhan in mid-December, two weeks before the official disclosure on December 31 that there was a new virus, sick people were turned away from local hospitals and sent home to infect other people and die. The hospitals were told to report "zero infections".

Why? Because an important meeting of provincial and city officials was under way in Wuhan and only good news was permitted. The cover-ups and delays were "reprehensible" according to an eminent Australian virologist, John Mackenzie.

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Chinese President Xi Jinping.CREDIT:AP

Famously, eight doctors in Wuhan who tried to raise the alarm before the official announcement were detained by police and ordered to shut up. One, Li Wenliang, caught the virus and died from it, at the age of 34. Dr Li is now considered a martyr in China. Li's last public statement was an appeal for free speech. It has since been censored.

And while Beijing initially was praised for swiftly circulating abroad the vital clinical details of the virus, subsequent revelations show the opposite is true. "The genome sequence – crucial for rapid development of diagnostics needed in an outbreak response – was not released until January 12, 17 days after the preliminary sequence data were obtained," four scientists have concluded in an article in the medical journal The Lancet. The scientists include members of the emergency committee of the World Health Organisation.

Official reporting of the number of people infected has gyrated bizarrely and inexplicably. The delays and cover-ups have made China's people distrustful and fearful. As hundreds of millions lock themselves at home out of fear, the economic cost of the virus mounts. China's President, Xi Jinping, has responded by squarely blaming local officials in Wuhan for the delays and cover-ups.

But the Wuhan authorities, returning the favour, said in an interview on January 27 with the state-owned China Central Television that they were not able to report the virus until authorised by Beijing.

A furious Xi is disciplining local officials. About 400 so far have been punished. Last week, Xi sacked the topmost Communist Party official for the province in which Wuhan is located, Hubei. And Xi's regime has mobilised massively to manage popular opinion. A top-level edict went out in early February instructing Chinese media managers that it was time for "telling the moving stories of how those on the frontline are preventing and fighting the virus" and "showcasing the unity of the Chinese people in the face of the virus".


The central propaganda authority said it would dispatch 300 propaganda agents – though it called them "journalists" – to the "frontline" in Hubei to make sure the required happy news stories were supplied.

President Xi has been lauded in headlines like this from one state-owned outlet: "Following the Example of General Secretary Xi Jinping, For a Loyal and Heroic Struggle for Early Victory." Catchy, huh?

A noted veteran political commentator, Willy Wo-Lap Lam of the Chinese University of Hong Kong, tells me: "The official state media have glorified Xi as the brilliant and effective man to deal with the outbreak. In actual fact, this is the toughest test of his power since he took over nine years ago. He's accused of not divulging the truth about the virus and the number of casualties, of being too slow to mobilise medical supplies to the affected area, and for the people in the huge province of Hubei being left to their own devices under quarantine, without adequate resources from the central government."

Lam says that while the media is dripping with "feelgood and upbeat stories about how we are winning the war against the virus", it's not convincing many people. "People do not believe the official version because of the long-standing tradition of the Chinese Communist Party to hide the facts and glorify the supposed achievements of the top leaders. For example they did the same thing in the SARS epidemic. People now see this as playing the SARS trajectory." In that case, the Chinese authorities covered up the reality of the disease for three years.

So, in a sure sign that Xi feels the need to better deflect blame, a party magazine broke big news on the weekend. It disclosed that Xi had taken personal control of the outbreak response on January 7. This was 13 days earlier than had been known. The Qiushi magazine reported a speech, secret till now, by Xi to his top officials ordering the quarantining of Wuhan, among other things. Why is this significant? To protect him from the criticism that he was too slow to react.

But while it was "a story intended to be in Xi's self-defence", says Lam, "the fact that he mentioned the virus in a closed meeting two weeks before the national mobilisation doesn't help much – you have to tell the public."

Xi is fighting for his reputation in this titanic episode of "discourse management", although his grip on power is not in doubt.

8c3374efaca2feaf65ab65156d20d9a7c6eea83f

A cyclist walks through disinfectant spray in northern China.CREDIT:AP

But even as Beijing is struggling with the consequences of so much bungling, so much death, so much damage worldwide, its officials still manage to turn this shocking culpability into an asset in managing the discourse with the wider world.

fter the Morrison government decided to protect Australia from the virus by imposing a ban on people travelling from or through China, the Chinese embassy had the gall to complain – wrongly – that the Chinese government hadn't been given advance notice. And to accuse Canberra of an overreaction.

China has imposed draconian bans on its own people, in areas home to some 50 million. Yet Beijing's mouthpiece People's Daily accused other countries that have imposed travel bans of "racism". This list would include not only Australia and the US but also Singapore and Japan and Vietnam.

This is preposterous yet somewhat successful "discourse management". How so? Because no leader, no official in Australia has had the courage to speak the plain truth to this authoritarian propaganda. No, Beijing, you made this disaster. We are merely trying to survive it.

Peter Hartcher is international editor.

https://www.smh.com.au/world/asia/t...a-but-no-one-will-say-it-20200217-p541hk.html

Fascinating. No proof. After the West invaded an entire country because it was "sure" it had WMDs, I'd take this with a pinch of salt.

Did you care to read? No you didn't because your mind is hard fixed on being pro China, and is evident in your reply.
Same kind of mindset who deny China's persecution of Muslims despite there being a great deal of evidence on the Internet, and reports from different Muslim fact finding missions from different nations, and even a statement by Imran Khan on "deliberate" silence on the issue.

Might want to take a dip into the water of reality and do some research on what you are talking about before talking about it?

A blindly pro-anything stance is destructive --- but this narrative also doesn't hold any real evidence-based weight. It's a potent mix of relentless info warfare from the West mixed with circumstantial claims that make for a great conspiracy theory. I'm not saying States don't indulge in biowarfare research and that a virus originally engineered as a bioweapon can't be leaked --- but the West's hypocrisy and history of lying doesn't exactly help their allegations.

Really! More like you try hard to stay in the same line with American and Turkey smearing China... There is no denying there is a systematic fakes lies against China about Uighur to cause distrust.

https://www.blackagendareport.com/my-trip-china-exposed-shameful-lies-peddled-american-empire

China needs to counter it better. Of course it's impossible to totally counter it, but I think more can be done.
 
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