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Please could you give us more information. Chinese history is not my subject, and I am therefore unable to link this to any corresponding Tibetan historical episode or to Indian reports.





Are you talking about the same incident? If so, the same request please: names, dates, sources.

Regards,

Joe,

Just come across the source during my leisure reading, luckily.

"India: a History" by John Keay, ISBN 0-87113-800-X, P167

Excerpt:
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How Harsha eventually died is not known. But when in 647 his long reign finally ended, so did his empire; it simply fell apart. No Chandra-Gupta II stepped forward to round off his conquests and no Ashoka arose to consolidate his dominions.Confederate kingdoms simply allowed their allegiance to lapse; subject dynasties simply resumed their old rivalries.​
The throne itself was usurped by one of Harsha's brahman ministers, who was then badly discredited by the mismanagement of a Chinese embassy. Harsha had cultivated good relations with the new T'ang empire and, thanks to his Buddhist sympathies and his generous treatment of visitors like Husan Tsang, several diplomatic missions had been exchanged. But, according to Chinese sources, a T'ang embassy which arrived immediately after his death found India in confusion. In what looks like an incident born more of sectarian than political rivalry, the Chinese were robbed and taken captive while the Celestial Emperor's emissary barely escaped to Tibet with his life.Thence he organised reprisals which apparently culminated in a resounding Chinese victory, 'whereupon Inida was overawed'.​
Although there is no mention in Indian sources of this first trans-Himalayan incursion, and although it was probably no more than a raid into northern Bengal, it was inductive of the vacuum left by Harsha....​

Looks like this is the first ever Indo-China conflict recorded in history.
 
Joe,

Just come across the source during my leisure reading, luckily.

"India: a History" by John Keay, ISBN 0-87113-800-X, P167

Excerpt:


Looks like this is the first ever Indo-China conflict recorded in history.

@gpit

I was foxed at your post, since my questions were put to you such a long time ago, and it seemed as if you had lost interest. Your reference was fascinating, all the more so since over the last three or four days, I have been reading, with a mixture of deep satisfaction and irritation and frustration, about the re-discovery of Buddhism and its traces in India. One of the incidents mentioned was the lamentable treatment meted out by the usurping minister to the T'ang ambassador and his escape and return with mercenary troops to punish the culprit. I will revert to you with more details, but meanwhile, thank you for your courtesy in bearing this question in mind, and responding to it after so many days. This was very thoughtful and very encouraging. Thank you.
 
Giant neighbors' cooperative decade - People's Daily Online June 19, 2011

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Visiting Chinese President Hu Jintao (L) shakes hands with his Russian counterpart Dmitry Medvedev after they signed a joint statement on international situation and major international issues in Moscow, capital of Russia, June 16, 2011. (Xinhua/Li Xueren)

Chinese President Hu Jintao's just-concluded visit to Russia is the latest in a decade-long effort that has established a new era of cooperation between the two neighboring world powers.

The state visit, from June 15 to 18, is his fifth since 2003, and continues a process of closer ties between the two countries at all levels since they signed the landmark China-Russia Treaty of Good-Neighborliness, Friendship and Cooperation in July 2001.

Over the past decade, bilateral cooperation has borne rich fruit in many fields, fostering peace and prosperity in the two countries and for the world at large.

Hu's latest visit, on the 10th anniversary of the treaty, is believed to further promote bilateral cooperation and charter a course for future development of bilateral ties.

MUTUAL POLITICAL TRUST

The 25-article good-neighborly treaty stresses a new type of state-to-state relationship, which neither seeks alliance, confrontation nor targets against any third country.

Recalling the treaty, President Hu said Thursday the new security concept it contains served as an excellent example of a new type of bilateral relations.

"The treaty is an important landmark in the development of China-Russia relations. At the same time, it has blazed a trail in international relations," he said.

Over the past decade, China and Russia have made eye-catching progress in boosting their political trust.

Frequent high-level exchanges have demonstrated the steady and healthy development of bilateral relations.

In addition to his five state visits, Hu headed to Russia in 2005 and 2010 for the 60th and 65th anniversaries of Victory in the Great Patriotic War of 1941-1945.

Last year alone, Hu and Russian President Dmitry Medvedev held six bilateral meetings and reached important agreements on further deepening the bilateral strategic partnership of cooperation.

In 2004, China and Russia inked an additional treaty over their eastern border, putting an end to 40 years of negotiations and making their 4,300-km-long border a symbol of good-neighborly relations and harmonious coexistence.

The two sides have also established mechanisms for regular meetings between their leaders and cooperation mechanisms between various government departments, and signed more than 200 cooperative documents to help improve the mechanisms and legal basis of bilateral ties.

Chinese Ambassador to Russia Li Hui, in a recent interview with Xinhua, said China-Russia ties were becoming a model for bilateral relations of the world's big powers.

Mikhail Titarenko, head of the Far East Institute of the Russian Academy of Sciences, told Xinhua Hu was a longtime close friend of Russia, and his visit definitely would encourage more joint efforts in both political issues and economic projects.

"The prospects for Russian-Chinese cooperation are really great," Titarenko said.

PRAGMATIC COOPERATION

Economically, cooperation has benefited both sides.

Two-way trade has increased sevenfold from some 8 billion U.S. dollars in 2000 to nearly 60 billion dollars in 2010.

Hu, during a meeting with Medvedev Thursday, said the two sides should work to further boost bilateral trade and set targets of 100 billion dollars a year by 2015 and 200 billion by 2020.

Medvedev, for his part, said the Russian side was fully satisfied with the development of bilateral relations over the past decade.

He specifically hailed the rapid development in bilateral economic and trade cooperation.

The two sides have carried out a number of large-scale cooperative projects in areas such as energy, infrastructure, and science and technology.

These include a China-Russia oil pipeline project linking Russia's Far East and northeast China, which began operation on Jan. 1. It runs smoothly and had delivered more than 6 million tons of crude oil from Russia to China by the end of May.

The 1,000-km-long pipeline will transport 15 million tons of oil annually from Russia to China from 2011 to 2030.

The two countries are now negotiating another two long-term gas projects. The projects, with a "west line" capable of supplying China with 30 billion cubic meters of natural gas a year and an "east line" of 38 billion cubic meters, would both be 30-year deals.

Culturally, China and Russia have actively learned about each other and deepened the friendship between the two peoples.

China hosted the "Year of Russia" in 2006 and "Year of Russian Language" in 2009, while Russia held the "Year of China" in 2007 and "Year of Chinese Language" in 2010. These activities increased the two peoples' understanding of each other.

People-to-people exchanges have witnessed robust development, with more than 3 million Chinese and Russians currently visiting each other's country every year.

China and Russia are also to stage s "Year of Tourism" to deepen bilateral exchanges

INFLUENTIAL DUET ON WORLD STAGE

China, as Asia's biggest country, has a land area of 9.6 million square km and a 1.34-billion population, while Russia is the biggest country in Euroasia, with a formidable 17 million square km and a population of 142 million.

Their friendly cooperation, without doubt, is of vital importance for peace and prosperity both in Eurasia and beyond.

China and Russia, both of which are UN Security Council permanent members, are heavyweights on the world platform and have cooperated effectively at the UN.

The two countries have maintained similar stances and substantially supported each other on a variety of hot and thorny international issues.

They also have cooperated effectively in other regional or international frameworks, such as the Shanghai Cooperation Organization (SCO), BRICS and the Group of 20.

"These new organizations will help Russia and China, together with other countries, maintain stable development, not only of our own countries, but also of the whole mankind," Igor Rogachev, a member of the Federation Council, Russia's upper house of parliament, and a former ambassador to China, told Xinhua.

Moreover, Russia has firmly adhered to the one-China policy and recognized Taiwan as an inalienable part of China, while China has staunchly supported Russia's crackdown on Chechen separatists.

China-Russia cooperation is tremendously conducive to building a multipolar world and a fairer international order, and benefits world peace and stability.

Alexander Lukin, director of the Center for East Asia and SCO Studies at Moscow State University for International Relations, wrote in an article titled "Russia and Rising China" that, "both Russia and China are unwilling to see the world as dominated by a super power. Instead, they think the world should have many poles, which will cooperate with each other according to international laws and under the guidance of the UN Charter."

"They also dislike other countries bossing them around over their domestic policies, and deem the actions as intervention in their internal affairs," he said.

On Thursday, China and Russia issued a joint statement on a broad range of key international issues.

They expressed their common stances on a variety of international issues, including bilateral cooperation at the UN and the G20, global nuclear and security issues, Asia-Pacific regional cooperation, the Korean Peninsula and Iranian nuclear issues, and unrest in West Asia and North Africa.

They vowed to make concerted efforts to effectively cope with various global challenges and threats.

COMMON CHALLENGES

The two neighbors now are also confronted with a variety of similar daunting challenges, such as a widening wealth gap, corruption, poverty, unemployment, and environmental pollution, among others.

Some Western countries are skeptical of the two emerging powers' intentions, employing labels such as "China Threat Theory," "Russian Authoritarianism" and other appalling rhetoric. They have even attempted to deter their development.

Therefore, bilateral cooperation is of significant importance to the two neighbors for their sustainable development, for which stable external circumstances are crucial as they push forward their modernization drives.

During his meeting with Medvedev Thursday, Hu said the next decade would be a critical period for the two countries for their respective development and for deepening their partnership.

He said China was ready to work with Russia to develop a comprehensive strategic cooperative partnership featuring equality, mutual trust, mutual support, common prosperity and lasting friendship in the new decade.

Hu also stressed China would unswervingly pursue the road of peaceful development and work for the establishment of a harmonious world of long-term peace and common prosperity.

Rogachev said, "We have taken an important step forward in strengthening the principle of 'Russia and China are friends forever and will never become enemies'."

Leaders and peoples of the two countries have agreed to follow this positive practice and find new themes for cooperation, he said. (Additional reporting by Zhang Dailei)
 
Wen tells Merkel: China to back up euro - People's Daily Online June 29, 2011

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Chinese Premier Wen Jiabao and German Chancellor Angela Merkel chat as they stroll in the garden of Villa Liebermann in Berlin yesterday. Wen wrapped up his two-day visit to Germany and left for Beijing with practical outcomes on cementing bilateral ties. Wen and Merkel agreed that they should work together to promote the global economic recovery. The countries also signed a series of contracts and agreements worth about US$15 billion. Germany was the last stop of Wen's Europe tour, that also took him to Hungary and Britain.(Shanghai Daily Photo)

Premier Wen Jiabao told German Chancellor Angela Merkel Tuesday that the two largest economies in Asia and Europe could forge even closer economic and trade ties, as the two leaders reiterated belief they would back up the euro.

Wen offered Europe a "helping hand" to tackle its debt crisis during a visit to Berlin Tuesday, saying Beijing could buy the sovereign debt of some troubled euro-zone nations if needed.

Wen said that China is confident in Europe because it includes countries such as economically and technologically strong Germany, and it has a skilled work force. He said the current difficulties faced by Euro-zone countries are "only of temporary nature".

Merkel assured Premier Wen that Germany will do everything in its capacity to ensure euro-zone countries' competitiveness.

Also Tuesday, the two leaders launched the first round of Sino-German inter-governmental economic and trade consultations. Beijing and Berlin said the two countries will vigorously promote economic ties, aiming at $280 billion trade between them by 2015 which is expected to bring huge benefits for the two peoples.

Wen made it clear that the main point of the meeting between Chinese and German ministers and economic officials in Berlin was to "boost the growth potential of bilateral trade and to once again double our bilateral trade volume in five years."

China and Germany signed deals worth $15 billion Tuesday.

Wen told a news conference that Beijing has confidence in the 17-nation currency, the euro. "China has expressed support for Europe at various times. In other words, when Europe is in difficulty we will extend a helping hand from afar," he said. "We will, according to need, definitely purchase certain amounts of sovereign debt."

Capital Economics estimated in a research note that China has bought more than 40 billion euros (US$57.45 billion) of euro-denominated assets this year, much of that in peripheral economies.

About a quarter of China's record foreign currency reserves of more than US$3 trillion are estimated to be held in euro assets and China has reiterated its confidence in the euro since the debt crisis began.

Wen visited Germany on the final leg of a European tour taking in Hungary and Britain. It was the first time China and Germany - the world's two biggest exporting nations - had held full ministerial consultations aimed at boosting trade.

Germany hopes for a rebalancing of investments between the two countries, with Germany's direct investments in China now standing at 20 billion euros, compared to Chinese investments in Germany of only about 600 million euros, German officials said.

Wen took 16 ministers with him on the visit to meet their German counterparts, including Zhang Ping, chairman of the National Development and Reform Commission, Commerce Minister Chen Deming, and Governor of the People's Bank of China Zhou Xiaochuan.

"The large scale of the lineup, the wide range of topics up for discussion and the substantial achievements are all pioneering work in the history of Sino-German relations and Sino-EU relations," Wen said during a joint press briefing with German Chancellor Angela Merkel.

"China has viewed Germany as an important strategic partner and such a strategic relationship will only be enhanced, rather than weakened, by such efforts," Wen said.

By People's Daily Online
 
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President Barack Obama will receive the Dalai Lama Saturday, the White House announced on the eve of this new meeting with the Tibetan spiritual leader who is likely to upset China.

“I can confirm that they will meet tomorrow,” said a White House official who requested anonymity.

“We are firmly opposed to any separation activity of the Dalai Lama during foreign visits,” said Hong Lei, spokesman for the Chinese Ministry of Foreign Affairs. “We are firmly opposed to any foreign government or politician who supports and encourages such activities.”

The meeting scheduled for Saturday shows strong support of the president to the preservation of the religious, cultural and linguistic uniqueness of Tibet and the protection of human rights of Tibetans, the White House said in a statement.

The president will mark its support for dialogue between representatives of the Dalai Lama and the Chinese government to resolve their differences, said the American presidency.

The meeting is scheduled for 11:30 (1530 GMT) outside the gaze of the media and in the Map Room, not in the Oval Office where U.S. presidents are heads of state.

Obama met with the Dalai Lama last year, angering Beijing, which accuses the leader of the Tibetans to seek independence from the roof of the world. The Dalai Lama, who left his country in 1959 after a failed uprising against the Chinese presence, says that he only calls for genuine autonomy.
 
China, Thailand pledge to strengthen military ties - People's Daily Online July 26, 2011

Chen Bingde, Chief of the General Staff of China's People's Liberation Army met with Songkitti Jaggabatara, Chief of Defense Forces of Thailand on Monday.

China-Thailand relationship has become an example of friendly co-existence between countries with different social systems, Chen said.

He praised the cooperation between the two militaries, including military drills, personnel training and equipment and technology transfer.

The joint military exercise between the two countries' armies and navies has enhanced mutual understanding and experience exchanging, and deepened friendship between the two militaries' grass-roots officers and soldiers, Chen noted.

Chen said the Chinese military was willing to keep working with the Thai side to continually advance military-to-military relations.

Songkitti said China-Thailand defense cooperation benefits each nation's defensive and military construction, as well as regional peace and stability.

Thailand was willing to make joint efforts with China to strengthen military communication and cooperation, he said.

Source: Xinhua
 
China, Japan vow to deepen defense cooperation - People's Daily Online July 26, 2011

Visiting Chinese deputy chief of the general staff of the People's Liberation Army Ma Xiaotian met with Japanese Defense Minister Toshimi Kitazawa Monday in Tokyo, vowing to deepen communication between the two countries' defense departments.

Kitazawa said since the normalization of the relations, bilateral ties between China and Japan are improving amid twists and turns. Japan is ready to work with China to further boost exchanges in defense, so as to strengthen mutual trust and friendly cooperation.

Ma said the Chinese and Japanese people both value the hard- earned peace and stability in the region. Sticking to the strategic mutually beneficial bilateral relations conforms to the core interests of both nations. Defense is a sensitive but essential part in Japan-China ties, he hoped the defense ministries in both countries could deepen communications to consolidate friendship.

Ma expressed condolence to Japan on the loss of human life and properties following the March quake-tsunami disaster and the ensuing nuclear crisis. Kitazawa thanked the Chinese side for their support when Japan was having a difficult time.

Ma arrived in Tokyo on Monday. He is set to meet with his Japanese counterpart for the ninth dialogue between China and Japan on defense issues on Tuesday.

Source: Xinhua
 
China and India at War: Study Contemplates Conflict Between Asian Giants
Posted by Ishaan Tharoor Friday, October 28, 2011 at 2:25 am


Read more: War-Gaming: Study Contemplates Conflict Between India and China - Global Spin - TIME.com

There are plenty of reasons why China and India won't go to war. The two Asian giants hope to reach $100 billion in annual bilateral trade by 2015. Peace and stability are watchwords for both nations' rise on the world stage. Yet tensions between the neighbors seem inescapable: they face each other across a heavily militarized nearly 4,000km-long border and are increasingly competing against each other in a scramble for natural resources around the world. Indian fears over Chinese projects along the Indian Ocean rim were matched recently by Beijing's ire over growing Indian interests in the South China Sea, a body of water China controversially claims as its exclusive territorial sphere of influence. Despite the sense of optimism and ambition that drives these two states, which comprise between them nearly a third of humanity, the legacy of the brief 1962 Sino-Indian war (a humiliating blow for India) still smolders nearly five decades later.
And it's alive on the pages of a new policy report issued by the Institute for Defence Studies and Analyses in New Delhi, an independent think tank that is affiliated with India's Ministry of Defense. "A Consideration of Sino-Indian Conflict" is hardly a hawkish tract — it advocates "war avoidance" — but, by spelling out a few concrete scenarios of how conflict may look between the two countries, it reveals the palpable lack of trust on the part of strategists both in New Delhi and Beijing. The report applauds long-term Indian efforts underway to beef up defenses along the Chinese border, but warns that Beijing may still take action:
In future, India could be subject to China's hegemonic attention. Since India would be better prepared by then, China may instead wish to set India back now by a preventive war. This means current day preparedness is as essential as preparation for the future. A [defeat] now will have as severe political costs, internally and externally, as it had back in 1962; for, as then, India is yet again contemplating a global role.
While a lot of recent media attention has focused on the likelihood of Sino-Indian clashes at sea, the IDSA report keeps its scope trained along the traditional, glacial Himalayan land boundary, referred to in wonkish parlance as the LAC, the Line of Actual Control. Since the 1962 war, China and India have yet to formally resolve longstanding disputes over vast stretches of territory along this line. Those disputes have resurfaced noticeably in recent years, with China making unprecedented noises, much to the alarm of New Delhi, over its historical claims to the entirety of the northeastern Indian state of Arunachal Pradesh — what the Chinese deem "Southern Tibet." The Chinese even rebuked Indian Prime Minister Manmohan Singh for having the audacity of visiting the Indian state during local elections in 2009.
Not surprisingly, it's in this remote corner of the world that many suspect a war could kick off, particularly around the historic Tibetan monastery town of Tawang. India has reinforced its position in Arunachal with more boots on the ground, new missile defenses and some of the Indian air force's best strike craft, new Russian-made Su-30 fighters. After decades of focusing its army west against perennial threat Pakistan, India is tacitly realigning its military east to face the long-term challenge of China.
The report speculates that China could make a targeted territorial grab, "for example, a bid to take Tawang." Further west along the LAC, another flashpoint lies in Kashmir. China controls a piece of largely uninhabited territory known as Aksai Chin that it captured during the 1962 war. Indian press frequently publish alarmist stories about Chinese incursions from Aksai Chin and elsewhere, playing up the scale of Chinese investment in strategic infrastructure on its side of the border in stark contrast to the seeming lethargy of Indian planners. Part of what fuels the anxiety in New Delhi, as the report notes, is the threat of coordinated action between China and Pakistan — an alliance built largely out of years of mutual antipathy toward India. In one mooted scenario, Pakistan, either with its own forces or terrorist, insurgent proxies, would "make diversionary moves" across the blood-stained Siachen glacier or Kargil, site of the last Indo-Pakistani war in 1999, while a Chinese offensive strikes further east along the border.
Of course, such table-top board game maneuvers have little purchase in present geo-politics. Direct, provocative action suits no player in the region, particularly when there's the specter of American power — a curious absence in the IDSA report — hovering on the sidelines. Intriguingly, the report seems to dismiss the notion that China and India would clash in what others would consider obvious hotspots for rivalry; it says the landlocked Himalayan kingdom of Bhutan would likely be treated as a neutral "Switzerland", while Nepal, a country of 40 million that entertains both Beijing and New Delhi's patronage, is more or less assured that neither of its big neighbors would risk violating its sovereignty in the event of war.
Moreover, the IDSA seems to rule out either side encouraging or deploying proxies in more clandestine struggles against the other. The restive border regions on both sides of the LAC are home to resentful minority populations and more than a few insurgent factions. India and China — unlike Pakistan — have little precedent in abetting militant groups and strategists on both sides would be wary of fanning flames of rebellion that no one can put out.
Yet what seems to stoke Sino-Indian military tensions — and grim prophecies of conflict — are precisely these feelings of vulnerability. The uncertainties posed by both countries' astonishing economic growth, the lack of clear communication and trust between Beijing and New Delhi and the strong nationalism underlying both Indian and Chinese public opinion could unsettle the uneasy status quo that now exists. Managing all this is a task for wooly-heads in New Delhi and Beijing. But don't be surprised if more reports like this one come out, drawing lines on the battlefield.


Read more: War-Gaming: Study Contemplates Conflict Between India and China - Global Spin - TIME.com
 
because BBC doesn't want their people to remember their reality, like how they are still trap in a war, how MI6 handover the opposition to torture, how their economy is broke, london was torched... etc.
:hang2:

Ah, so cunning, so typical of perfidious Albion! Immediately divert attention from "...how they are still trap in a war, how MI6 handover the opposition to torture, how their economy is broke, london was torched..." by describing the Chinese leadership's confrontation with a potato-farmer, his brush with the grand-daughter, extra-long chopsticks to avoid being burnt doing an unexpectedly day-to-day thing, addressing an adoring crowd...

No doubt about it, it will successfully divert attention from the war, the MI6 betrayal, the broken economy and London being torched. Very subtle, these British. Whoever would have guessed these underlying motives?

Where IS Cardsharp when we really need him?
 
Four important lessons from 1962 Sino-Indian border war

1. When the People's Daily newspaper publishes an article warning you to back off, you better listen. It is a prelude to war. The Indians ignored the warning from the People's Daily in 1962 and they paid the price of defeat in the Sino-Indian border war.

This lesson is applicable today to Vietnam and the Philippines. After the People's Daily, Xinhua, and Global Times warned them of military action, Vietnamese and Filipino provocations in the South China Sea stopped.

Sino-Indian War - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

"On 22 September 1962, the People's Daily published an article which claimed that "the Chinese people were burning with 'great indignation' over the Indian actions on the border and that New Delhi could not 'now say that warning was not served in advance'."[37][38]
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On 14 October, an editorial on People's Daily issued China's final warning to India: "So it seems that Mr. Nehru has made up his mind to attack the Chinese frontier guards on an even bigger scale....It is high time to shout to Mr. Nehru that the heroic Chinese troops, with the glorious tradition of resisting foreign aggression, can never be cleared by anyone from their own territory... If there are still some maniacs who are reckless enough to ignore our well-intentioned advice and insist on having another try, well, let them do so. History will pronounce its inexorable verdict... At this critical moment...we still want to appeal once more to Mr. Nehru: better rein in at the edge of the precipice and do not use the lives of Indian troops as stakes in your gamble." [38]"

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2. Chinese weaponry stationed across from Taiwan can be moved to the Indian sector. In 1962, China moved heavy artillery. In the current context, China can move 1,800 short-range ballistic missiles from the Taiwan sector for use against India.

Sino-Indian War - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

"Chinese attention was diverted for a time by the military activity of the Nationalists on Taiwan, but on 23 June the U.S. assured China that a Nationalist invasion would not be permitted.[30] China's heavy artillery facing Taiwan could then be moved to Tibet.[31] It took China six to eight months to gather the resources needed for the war, according to Anil Athale, author of the official Indian history.[31] The Chinese sent a large quantity of non-military supplies to Tibet through the Indian port of Calcutta.[31]"

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3. PLA's blitzkrieg will slice through the enemy's best troops.

Sino-Indian War - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

"Marshal Liu Bocheng headed a group to determine the strategy for the war. He concluded that the opposing Indian troops were among India's best, and to achieve victory would require deploying crack troops and relying on force concentration to achieve decisive victory. On 16 October, this war plan was approved, and on the 18th, the final approval was given by the Politburo for a "self-defensive counter-attack", scheduled for 20 October.[2]
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At 5:14 am, Chinese mortar fire began attacking the Indian positions. Simultaneously, the Chinese cut the Indian telephone lines, preventing the defenders from making contact with their headquarters. At about 6:30 am, the Chinese infantry launched a surprise attack from the rear and forced the Indians to leave their trenches.[36]

The Chinese troops overwhelmed the Indians in a series of flanking manoeuvres south of the McMahon Line and prompted their withdrawal from Namka Chu.[36] Fearful of continued losses, Indian troops escaped into Bhutan. Chinese forces respected the border and did not pursue.[7] Chinese forces now held all of the territory that was under dispute at the time of the Thag La confrontation, but they continued to advance into the rest of NEFA.[36]
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Western theatre

On the Aksai Chin front, China already controlled most of the disputed territory. Chinese forces quickly swept the region of any remaining Indian troops.[42] Late on 19 October, Chinese troops launched a number of attacks throughout the western theatre.[8] By 22 October, all posts north of Chushul had been cleared.[8]"

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4. In 1962, the United States rejected India's plea for military jets. Today, China is a well-armed thermonuclear power. What are the chances that the United States would be willing to supply India with a single bullet in the next Sino-Indian border war?

Sino-Indian War - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

"Involvement of other nations

During the conflict, Nehru wrote two desperate letters to JFK, requesting 12 squadrons of fighter jets. These jets were necessary to beef up Indian air strength so that an air war could be initiated safely from the Indian perspective. This request was rejected. According to former Indian diplomat G Parthasarathy, "only after we got nothing from the US did arms supplies from the Soviet Union to India commence." [57] In 1962, President of Pakistan Ayub Khan made clear to India that Indian troops could safely be transferred from the Pakistan frontier to the Himalayas.[58]"
 
Let's compare the trust among Chinese citizens in the CCP (88% trust) and the foreigners living in democratic nations. Why would Chinese want to emulate the inferior and far-less-trustworthy democratic model in the United States (40% trust) or India (44% trust)?

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2011 Edelman Trust Barometer (see page 7 at http://www.edelman.com/trust/2011/uploads/Edelman Trust Barometer Global Deck.pdf).

Edelman (e.g. company behind "Edelman Trust Barometer") is the "world's largest independent public relations firm with over 3,100 employees in 54 offices worldwide" (see Davos Diary - The United States and the Trust Barometer).

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China's growing prosperity is clear for all to see.

Countries are like people. They have personalities that reflect the character of a particular country, its culture, history, traditions, and people.

America is a country based on individualism and democracy works very well for Americans. In America, the basic unit of society is the individual and his/her ambitions.

However, looking at Chinese history, it is obvious China's Confucian culture is a collectivist society. Chinese people are most comfortable working in groups. For the past 30 years, the economic and technological advancements accomplished under the CCP have been astonishing.

Thirty years of breathtaking progress have shown that China has found a socioeconomic system that works best for Chinese people. China will continue to pursue "socialism with Chinese characteristics" for the betterment of all Chinese people (except for the tiny disgruntled democracy agitators working for the CIA).

It is unreasonable to call for democracy in China at this time. Democracy in China under Chiang Kai Shek and the Kuomintang did not work. China was impoverished and invaded by foreigners. Today, under the CCP, China possesses advanced thermonuclear weapons and stealth technology to defend the country.

The CCP is doing a great job and it is governing China with the consent of the people. Someone once said that the CCP is the best government that China has had in the last 5,000 years. 88% of Chinese agree.

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Survey: 88 percent of Chinese trust government - People's Daily Online

"Survey: 88 percent of Chinese trust government
16:04, January 27, 2011

On Jan. 26, the 2011 Edelman Trust Barometer, which ranks institutions by the amount of trust people have in them, was released by Edelman, one of the top five global public relations firms. The report shows that China ranked first in the world in terms of trust in government with 88 percent trust.

The tradition in recent years is that Edelman releases the results of the annual Edelman Trust Barometer before start of the annual World Economic Forum meeting.

Trust in government in China has increased by 14 percentage points, up from 74 percent to 88 percent. In addition, the trust in government in Brazil has risen sharply, up from 39 percent in 2010 to 85 percent this year.

However, trust in government fell in the United States from 46 percent to 40 percent.

By People's Daily Online"
 
@Martian2

I have little to say about your second post. About your first, however, it is advisable that you gather rather more authentic and accurate information before taking a position. Your conclusions are based on very superficial and decidedly skewed and distorted reporting, and are not borne out by facts. It was interesting to learn that you believe that your views are not coloured by nationalism.
 

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