Chinese football team will no long be weak in 10 years

[jhungary]

Japan is pound for pound the best Asian football team in Asia right now, at Fifa ranking no. 20.
Their national league teams just beats the Scottish Celtic and French PSG.

They also have the most win in AFC cups, at 1992, 2000, 2004 and 2011 and runner-up in 2019.
I'd say they "dominate" Asia right now, along with S. Korea, being the only 2 teams to even get to group 16 in the WC recently in the last 10 years, except Japan did it much more consistently.

For football, Japan is absolutely a goal to study from, and proves that physiques don't matter that much since japanese footballers are smaller in physiques compared to even chinese and korean.

Again, I am not saying Japan is not a strong team, I am saying they didn't win or even dominate said sport regional level. FIFA ranking is actually BS, do you really believe US is rank 10 and Mexico is ranked 11 when they win absolutely nothing in any international level nor have any player in any calibre that we know// FIFA ranking is not really reflecting actual strength in that sport because it counted the play locally.

To say Japanese football is all we hope because of its FIFA ranking then you could probably better say Mexico football is what Asian should be looking

 

[REhorror]

Again, I am not saying Japan is not a strong team, I am saying they didn't win or even dominate said sport regional level. FIFA ranking is actually BS, do you really believe US is rank 10 and Mexico is ranked 11 when they win absolutely nothing in any international level nor have any player in any calibre that we know// FIFA ranking is not really reflecting actual strength in that sport because it counted the play locally.

To say Japanese football is all we hope because of its FIFA ranking then you could probably better say Mexico football is what Asian should be looking

The point is they do dominate regional level tho, at the moment, no asian team can be said to be stronger than Japan. Not Iran, not Saudi Arabia, not S. Korea, by their performance AND Fifa ranking.

And Mexico doesn't even get into regular R16 of the WC, man, while Japan has done it like 4 times consecutively now.
But I do agree that if every asian team aim to get to Mexico level, which is regular WC participation (not even speaking about R16), that would be good.

And you seem to ignore the other team sports that Japan and/or Asia teams do dominate.

 

[hirobo2]

Whites are inferior race to Asians. Even physical body size aren't an indicator of anything. Several years ago, when I was weight training at a gym, I saw a big burly White guy sneer at me. Look at that scrawny Asian dude on the weight machine! Then his jaw dropped when I placed about 40% more weight on the machine that he had just finished using.

Me, I couldn't believe it myself. I probably weigh 40% less than that White guy yet could handle 40% more weight training. Do the math, I was actually 80% stronger than that Caucasian guy! Asians pack more muscle strength per pound of muscle tissue. Many Asians seem more scrawny than their Caucasian counterparts but are actually physically much stronger!

Guys like Bruce Lee with his smallish physic belonging to the lightweight division, don't be fooled. He could probably beat up a guy twice his body mass!

 

[jhungary]

Uh, Japan just wins WBC champion last year, that was baseball.
Japan also has won bronze medal in volleyball in VNL 2023 too, only losing to Poland, the champion.

This is not to mention stuff like team badminton or team table tennis where Asia absolutely dominates.

What's with you talking sh*t about asian sport teams anyway?

First of all, again, I DID NOT SAY ANY OF THAT. That was from a program I saw on BBC or some TV station some year ago, I agree that point to some degree. All those aren't my idea, again, the same thing to the other person, I can try to find the program detail and give it to you and you can write to them on how wrong they are, if I still can find the detail.

Also, Baseball is like Rugby, not a whole lot of countries play them, that's why they were taken out of Olympic Schedule and only returned as guest event in Tolyo, you can't use it to judge how sport are with different countries, because too many country didn't even have a league. On the other hand, Baseball, along with tennis, table tennis, badminton and volleyball is non-contact, if you read the point I pointed out, it's not what the psychologist say at all, because you don't have your enemy interfering your own progress.

And finally, double event of a single sport is NOT team sport, so no, badminton, tennis or squash is not team sport.

 

[REhorror]

Whites are inferior race to Asians. Even physical body size aren't an indicator of anything. Several years ago, when I was weight training at a gym, I saw a big burly White guy sneer at me. Look at that scrawny Asian dude on the weight machine! Then his jaw dropped when I placed about 40% more weight on the machine that he had just finished using.

Me, I couldn't believe it myself. I probably weigh 40% less than that White guy yet could handle 40% more weight training. Asians pack more muscle strength per pound of muscle tissue. Many Asians seem more scrawny than their Caucasian counterparts but are actually physically much stronger!

Guys like Bruce Lee with his smallish physic, don't be fooled. He could probably beat up a guy twice his body mass!

While I don't think Asians are inherently physically superior, indeed we can beat up white guys or black guys with training.

Don't believe in muh genetics that much guys.

First of all, again, I DID NOT SAY ANY OF THAT. That was from a program I saw on BBC or some TV station some year ago, I agree that point to some degree. All those aren't my idea, again, the same thing to the other person, I can try to find the program detail and give it to you and you can write to them on how wrong they are, if I still can find the detail.

Also, Baseball is like Rugby, not a whole lot of countries play them, that's why they were taken out of Olympic Schedule and only returned as guest event in Tolyo, you can't use it to judge how sport are with different countries, because too many country didn't even have a league. On the other hand, Baseball, along with tennis, table tennis, badminton and volleyball is non-contact, if you read the point I pointed out, it's not what the psychologist say at all, because you don't have your enemy interfering your own progress.

And finally, double event of a single sport is NOT team sport, so no, badminton, tennis or squash is not team sport.

Yeah, asian dominated team sport just doesn't count, eh?

And Japan is literally rank 12th in rugby world ranking WORLDWIDE, they do have a lot of naturalization but the majority is still asian. And that is indeed the strongest sport around, no other sport even comes close (American football has too much protective gear).
You are sounding like some washed up asian trying to dismiss Asian achievements to me.

Big yikes.

 

[beijingwalker]

Whites are inferior race to Asians. Even physical body size aren't an indicator of anything. Several years ago, when I was weight training at a gym, I saw a big burly White guy sneer at me. Look at that scrawny Asian dude on the weight machine! Then his jaw dropped when I placed about 40% more weight on the machine that he had just finished using.

Me, I couldn't believe it myself. I probably weigh 40% less than that White guy yet could handle 40% more weight training. Do the math, I was actually 80% stronger than that Caucasian guy! Asians pack more muscle strength per pound of muscle tissue. Many Asians seem more scrawny than their Caucasian counterparts but are actually physically much stronger!

Guys like Bruce Lee with his smallish physic belonging to the lightweight division, don't be fooled. He could probably beat up a guy twice his body mass!

That can be true, don't forget before firearms were invented, Caucasians were always on the receiving end of Asian warriors warth, Attilla the Huns, Genghis khan, Asian Turks...

 

[jhungary]

My suggestion, next time when discussing anything, try not to talk about yourself, no one cares about what you did and who you are.

My suggestion, next time when you try to discuss anything, first read what the other guy said.

Eugenics is true.

Blacks consistently lag behind whites and Asians in mathematics and the natural sciences. But in some sports like basketball, they outperform the Asians.

In the field of table tennis, China dominates.

Of course, if a certain European or Asian country wanted to win more gold medals in athletics, it could encourage its citizens to marry black and have more mixed children. But I'm not sure it's a good idea: These genetic codes will weaken a country's advantage in areas related to natural sciences, engineering, high technology.

The explain to me how or why Africa in general sucks at sports when almost some field are predominately dominated by Black? Are the black in Africa and the Black in the west have different gene?

The point is they do dominate regional level tho, at the moment, no asian team can be said to be stronger than Japan. Not Iran, not Saudi Arabia, not S. Korea, by their performance AND Fifa ranking.

And Mexico doesn't even get into regular R16 of the WC, man, while Japan has done it like 4 times consecutively now.
But I do agree that if every asian team aim to get to Mexico level, which is regular WC participation (not even speaking about R16), that would be good.

That's my point, that's why I said FIFA ranking is not dependable if we talk about strength in sport.

Again, US ranked 10, Mexico ranked 11, both are better than Japan, which I don't believe so

And you seem to ignore the other team sports that Japan and/or Asia teams do dominate.

I did actually, you break it down into two post and it took time to type a separate response.

 

[REhorror]

That's my point, that's why I said FIFA ranking is not dependable if we talk about strength in sport.

Again, US ranked 10, Mexico ranked 11, both are better than Japan, which I don't believe so

I actually do agree that the japanese can consistently beat the american, not sure about the Mexican tho.
My issue is you trying to deny that they don't dominate Asian football right now, which they do due to their current golden generation, and other teams are having their low down (Iran political instability, Saudi Arabia weakness in endurance, S. Korea not enough new comers and constantly changing coaches).

Hell, their domination is much clearer to see than say, the best european team right now due to how inconsistent the europeans are (Germany missing W16 two times, Spain being beaten by Japan and Morocco pretty convincingly, Italy not even making the WC, etc.). Only honestly France, UK, Croatia and Poland can honestly be said to be strong europeans right now.

 

[jhungary]

Yeah, asian dominated team sport just doesn't count, eh?

And Japan is literally rank 12th in rugby world ranking WORLDWIDE, they do have a lot of naturalization but the majority is still asian. And that is indeed the strongest sport around, no other sport even comes close (American football has too much protective gear).
You are sounding like some washed up asian trying to dismiss Asian achievements to me.

Big yikes.

Again, that isn't my point, you need to go take it up with them, the point of that psychologist had a scope, and I already lay it out in my original post.

And I don't understand your obsession on world ranking. US rank 1 in NFL and Canada rank 2. Does that really mean anything when Gideon is not a sport played worldwide? Rugby, Baseball is not at all a "world sport" again, both weren't at the Olympics, and both weren't played that internationally, I mean can you say white men is the best at Cricket when they beat a selective of colored country on their former colony? In fact, I would say Cricket probably have more fans than Rugby and Baseball combine. I mean India plays cricket.

 

[MH.Yang]

What happened? I thought China sucks at football because China has a fair and universal compulsory education system?

Legendary copium quotes by @kankan326:





Is China not going to progress in the next 10 years? Or that millions of people are going to live in slums in the next decade?

The underlying reason for the low level of soccer play in China is the Chinese govt's extreme emphasis on education in STEM subjects.

Sports such as soccer in China are unable to train young athletes in schools like they do in Europe, and China does not have the slums that produce soccer talent like South America.

 

[REhorror]

Again, that isn't my point, you need to go take it up with them, the point of that psychologist had a scope, and I already lay it out in my original post.

And I don't understand your obsession on world ranking. US rank 1 in NFL and Canada rank 2. Does that really mean anything when Gideon is not a sport played worldwide? Rugby, Baseball is not at all a "world sport" again, both weren't at the Olympics, and both weren't played that internationally, I mean can you say white men is the best at Cricket when they beat a selective of colored country on their former colony? In fact, I would say Cricket probably have more fans than Rugby and Baseball combine. I mean India plays cricket.

Cricket is yet another example and this is getting hella confusing.

To make things short, I'm saying Asians aren't bad at team sport, do you agree, yes or no?

 

[jhungary]

I actually do agree that the japanese can consistently beat the american, not sure about the Mexican tho.
My issue is you trying to deny that they don't dominate Asian football right now, which they do due to their current golden generation, and other teams are having their low down (Iran political instability, Saudi Arabia weakness in endurance, S. Korea not enough new comers and constantly changing coaches).

Hell, their domination is much clearer to see than say, the best european team right now due to how inconsistent the europeans are (Germany missing W16 two times, Spain being beaten by Japan and Morocco pretty convincingly, Italy not even making the WC, etc.). Only honestly France, UK, Croatia and Poland can honestly be said to be strong europeans right now.

Because they aren't, there are many Asian team to watch in Asia right now, Asian Football (AFC) is not like what they used to be, there are some country at least equally as good (country like SK, Iraq or Australia) in fact, I would argue Australian local league probably have more draw than J-league. But that's just my personal view probably because I live in Australia, not Japan.

The issue here is the term "Dominate" if there are equal in the region, then no one actually dominate. Again, I don't doubt or take away Japan from being a strong team in Asia, but to say they "Dominate" is probably a stretch. Australia ranks 27 and they beat the US team. so again, FIFA ranking is nothing but BS, and that's my point.

 

[MH.Yang]

under mentorship of lead coach terror feudal xi?

china gonna be dead last for sure now

A Chinese soccer legend has called for the downfall of the Communist Party

A retired Chinese soccer star has openly called for the downfall of China's ruling Communist Party, in what he says was the "biggest and most correct decision" of his life.

amp.cnn.com

Let me remind you that even though soccer is China's weakest sport, the Chinese soccer team holds a winning record against the Indian soccer team, which has never beaten China.

The reason why Chinese people think that the Chinese soccer team is a weak team is because Chinese people are used to champions. And Indians are used to losing.

 

[jhungary]

Cricket is yet another example and this is getting hella confusing.

To make things short, I'm saying Asians aren't bad at team sport, do you agree, yes or no?

Depends on what you mean by "Bad" in team sport.

Did they play that "Badly" they can't do shit? NO.
Did they play bad to match up with other countries in different region? YES

 

[REhorror]

Because they aren't, there are many Asian team to watch in Asia right now, Asian Football (AFC) is not like what they used to be, there are some country at least equally as good (country like SK, Iraq or Australia) in fact, I would argue Australian local league probably have more draw than J-league. But that's just my personal view probably because I live in Australia, not Japan.

The issue here is the term "Dominate" if there are equal in the region, then no one actually dominate. Again, I don't doubt or take away Japan from being a strong team in Asia, but to say they "Dominate" is probably a stretch. Australia ranks 27 and they beat the US team. so again, FIFA ranking is nothing but BS, and that's my point.

Bruh, australians are getting their *** kicked by Japan and S. Korea all the times. They aren't good at football at all.
Meanwhile, the J leaguers are going to toe to toe with Euro clubs AND winning. They also won the Asian Club championship last year (Uruwa Red), not your aussie club.

OK, we agree to not say "dominate", I'm saying the japanese are the strongest team in Asia right now, and their strength even surpasses some of the top 10 euro national teams. Their success proves asians can make it in football, without the need for muh physiques.

Depends on what you mean by "Bad" in team sport.

Did they play that "Badly" they can't do shit? NO.
Did they play bad to match up with other countries in different region? YES

Don't wordplay with me.