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http://www.eastpendulum.com/histoire-destroyer-173-changsha
Ten days ago, we have relayed a source according to which the destroyer 173 Changsha , of Type 052D , would have broken down in the Indian Ocean , but could not confirm the information, for lack of institutional communications.
The only thing that is still certain today is that the 174Hefei destroyer of the same class actually replaced it, to participate in the Sino-Russian naval exercise "Joint Sea 2017".
Destroyer 173 Changsha , frigate 571 Yuncheng of Type 054A and tanker-tanker 964 Luomahu of Type 903A constituted the Chinese fleet which left the port of Sanya on Sunday 18 June . But soon this first "disappeared" of official communications and it is his sistership 174Hefei that continues to lead the other two ships to the joint exercise in St. Petersburg and Kaliningrad.
Currently the three buildings of the "new" Chinese fleet have already reached the North Sea. They were accompanied by the Dutch frigate HNLMS Van Amstel onMonday in their crossing and heading for the Baltic Sea.
Only there is still no news on the track of the 173Changsha , a ship of nearly 7,000 tons full load and one of the most advanced destroyers of the Chinese Navy.
While some Taiwanese media are applauding the possible damage to the Chinese destroyer, as an element to reassure themselves and to serve as evidence of the mediocrity of the quality "Made in China", another medium of the island has just evoked a Another possibility which seems equally plausible.
According to the Up Media newspaper quoting a source from the Taiwanese army (?) , Destroyer 173 Changshawas on June 18 from China for the Baltic Sea. But for some unknown reason the ship would never have left the South China Sea and would have turned back towards the Fiery Cross reef to return to the Zhejiang naval base, Vessel is affected, by sailing at a speed of "22 knots".
This speed of the ship thus seems to rule out any serious damage to the propulsion system as claimed by another Chinese source, quoted in our article of 8 July.
The same Taiwanese source assumes that this early return would be linked to the disciplinary investigations that are currently underway in the Chinese army, and that one or more Chinese destroyer or flotilla officials would be involved, forcing the Chinese navy To repatriate the whole ship and have it replaced by another of the same class.
On the basis of official communications, notably that of the supply of the Baltic Sea fleet in the Gulf of Adenfrom Sanya, the Chinese fleet is under the command of Vice Admiral YU Man Jiang (俞 满江) , Also deputy commander of the Southern Fleet. He is assisted by Vice Admiral FU Xiao Dong (傅晓东), Deputy Commissioner of the Southern Fleet Party and former Chief Judge of the Military Court of the Chinese Army, and LI Hui Flotilla Chief of Staff李辉).
The Hefei 174 Type 052D destroyer, in a real fire drill
In the July 8 issue of the Chinese Army newspaper, where the 174 Hefei destroyer is now the flagship of the flotilla (and no longer the 173 Changsha ), YU and LI have both been mentioned.
FU Xiao Dong was not mentioned in the article, but it appeared in another recent article of China News dating 6 days ago , and it is known that he is also on board Of the destroyer 174 Hefei .
In other words, none of the top three officials of the Chinese fleet is concerned by what the Taiwanese media is talking about.
Whichever person would have forced Changsha to turn around in the middle of a mission, the ship could have deposited it on the Fiery Cross Reef, which has a 3,000-meter runway, An airplane brings it back to the mainland.
Any less than the captain of the ship that is involved, and implies by default any crew?
Anyway, without any statement from the Chinese navy, everything can be considered rumor today, whether it is the hypothesis of the destroyer of the destroyer in the Indian Ocean or this new eventuality of disciplinary investigations .
So either a serious breakdown , most probably control related or more seriously a discipline matter like mutiny , which forced the destroyer to abandon it's mission.
http://www.eastpendulum.com/histoire-destroyer-173-changsha
Ten days ago, we have relayed a source according to which the destroyer 173 Changsha , of Type 052D , would have broken down in the Indian Ocean , but could not confirm the information, for lack of institutional communications.
The only thing that is still certain today is that the 174Hefei destroyer of the same class actually replaced it, to participate in the Sino-Russian naval exercise "Joint Sea 2017".
Destroyer 173 Changsha , frigate 571 Yuncheng of Type 054A and tanker-tanker 964 Luomahu of Type 903A constituted the Chinese fleet which left the port of Sanya on Sunday 18 June . But soon this first "disappeared" of official communications and it is his sistership 174Hefei that continues to lead the other two ships to the joint exercise in St. Petersburg and Kaliningrad.
Currently the three buildings of the "new" Chinese fleet have already reached the North Sea. They were accompanied by the Dutch frigate HNLMS Van Amstel onMonday in their crossing and heading for the Baltic Sea.
Only there is still no news on the track of the 173Changsha , a ship of nearly 7,000 tons full load and one of the most advanced destroyers of the Chinese Navy.
While some Taiwanese media are applauding the possible damage to the Chinese destroyer, as an element to reassure themselves and to serve as evidence of the mediocrity of the quality "Made in China", another medium of the island has just evoked a Another possibility which seems equally plausible.
According to the Up Media newspaper quoting a source from the Taiwanese army (?) , Destroyer 173 Changshawas on June 18 from China for the Baltic Sea. But for some unknown reason the ship would never have left the South China Sea and would have turned back towards the Fiery Cross reef to return to the Zhejiang naval base, Vessel is affected, by sailing at a speed of "22 knots".
This speed of the ship thus seems to rule out any serious damage to the propulsion system as claimed by another Chinese source, quoted in our article of 8 July.
The same Taiwanese source assumes that this early return would be linked to the disciplinary investigations that are currently underway in the Chinese army, and that one or more Chinese destroyer or flotilla officials would be involved, forcing the Chinese navy To repatriate the whole ship and have it replaced by another of the same class.
On the basis of official communications, notably that of the supply of the Baltic Sea fleet in the Gulf of Adenfrom Sanya, the Chinese fleet is under the command of Vice Admiral YU Man Jiang (俞 满江) , Also deputy commander of the Southern Fleet. He is assisted by Vice Admiral FU Xiao Dong (傅晓东), Deputy Commissioner of the Southern Fleet Party and former Chief Judge of the Military Court of the Chinese Army, and LI Hui Flotilla Chief of Staff李辉).
The Hefei 174 Type 052D destroyer, in a real fire drill
In the July 8 issue of the Chinese Army newspaper, where the 174 Hefei destroyer is now the flagship of the flotilla (and no longer the 173 Changsha ), YU and LI have both been mentioned.
FU Xiao Dong was not mentioned in the article, but it appeared in another recent article of China News dating 6 days ago , and it is known that he is also on board Of the destroyer 174 Hefei .
In other words, none of the top three officials of the Chinese fleet is concerned by what the Taiwanese media is talking about.
Whichever person would have forced Changsha to turn around in the middle of a mission, the ship could have deposited it on the Fiery Cross Reef, which has a 3,000-meter runway, An airplane brings it back to the mainland.
Any less than the captain of the ship that is involved, and implies by default any crew?
Anyway, without any statement from the Chinese navy, everything can be considered rumor today, whether it is the hypothesis of the destroyer of the destroyer in the Indian Ocean or this new eventuality of disciplinary investigations .
So either a serious breakdown , most probably control related or more seriously a discipline matter like mutiny , which forced the destroyer to abandon it's mission.