Chinese air force among the most capable, analyst says

[SBD-3]

U will be happy to know that most of the advanced technologies in Su-30 mki are actually derived from Su-35 which is what makes it the most advanced among all Su-30 variants

The Sukhoi Su-35 (formerly Su-27M;[6] NATO reporting name: Flanker-E) is a Russian 4+ generation heavy class, long-range, multi-role fighter, that was developed from the original Su-27 fighter. Due to the similar features and components it contains the Su-35 is considered a close cousin of the Sukhoi Su-30MKI, a modernized Su-30 variant for India.[7] The Su-35 has been further developed into the Su-35BM.[8] The Su-35 is in service in small numbers with the Russian Air Force with 12 in service as of 2008.[2]

U can read the entire article at-Sukhoi Su-35 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

that also implies that Chinese have reached or may be surpassed MKI level

 

[anathema]

No disrespect intended !!!

But exactly what data did the analyst have to arrive at this conclusion ?? Unlike other countries where information is relatively open -- Chinese strictly control the data including PLAAF's --so where did he get this data and how accurate is this ? There is hardly any information on chinese fighter aircrafts - baring the one of two articles on communist daily newspapers & sinodefence forum.... till then China is a great airforce by virtue of what is published in the print media without anyone having ever seen it or experienced it.
However this actually maybe good for the Chinese , as surprises do help!

 

[RAHUL INDIAN]

I guess you haven't seen J-15....they are really so close in reaching SU-35 tech level

plz dont go by heart.

 

[Taha Samad]

REALITY CHECK


YouTube - Indian air force (IAF) vs Chinese air force (PLAAF) - Part 1

I do believe PLAAF can be a very potent force in future but right now it has many obsolete fighters.also I do not agree with the guy in the video when he says that Jf-17 are 3rd generation

Mods please move it to "stupid and funny from all over the world" thread

i was searching for some comedy movie to watch and guess what i found...

 

[SBD-3]

plz dont go by heart.

hummmm........you can say whatever you want to...but they have a machine similar to MKI flying....

 

[Dr sim]

that also implies that Chinese have reached or may be surpassed MKI level

Dude J-15 is still under development, where as Su-30 MKI has been in service with IAF for nearly a decade which gives IAF a huge advantage.

Also SU-30 MKI comes with very advanced subsystems from France,Israel and SA to which China has no access to. After the recent upgrade with brahmos coming on board ,this plane is going to be a monster.

 

[Dr sim]

Mods please move it to "stupid and funny from all over the world" thread

i was searching for some comedy movie to watch and guess what i found...

instead of simply trolling ,use ur brain and try to come up with some logical arguments

 

[prototype]

You indians are known to be good making hand guns. Anything else?

no, nothing we people r nothing when compared to Chuinese copy paste techniques

 

[中华人民共和&#]

REALITY CHECK


YouTube - Indian air force (IAF) vs Chinese air force (PLAAF) - Part 1

I do believe PLAAF can be a very potent force in future but right now it has many obsolete fighters.also I do not agree with the guy in the video when he says that Jf-17 are 3rd generation

Why are you bringing in information that's nearing 4 years old? This article by the OP is from this year, and the MKI is not GOD... It's not going to win a war for you lol... The J-11B can even best it, not to mention the J-10B and J-15's joining the AF this year or the next...

 

[中华人民共和&#]

no, nothing we people r nothing when compared to Chuinese copy paste techniques

No, no, you aren't, and you can't reverse engineer anything even if you tried to... I'm sorry, but I think it's time you get back to the kitchen and start making me some Butter Chickenz lol...

 

[RAHUL INDIAN]

Why are you bringing in information that's nearing 4 years old? This article by the OP is from this year, and the MKI is not GOD... It's not going to win a war for you lol... The J-11B can even best it, not to mention the J-10B and J-15's joining the AF this year or the next...

all are far below MKI

 

[中华人民共和&#]

all are far below MKI

Yes, they are VERY FAR below the MKI if you're using an inverted scale LMAO Get back to the kitchen now and cook me up some Rogan Josh, slave haha

 

[RAHUL INDIAN]

Yes, they are VERY FAR below the MKI

obviously.

 

[中华人民共和&#]

Yes, they are VERY FAR below the MKI if you're using an inverted scale LMAO Get back to the kitchen now and cook me up some Rogan Josh, slave haha

"Yes, they are VERY FAR below the MKI" - obviously.

LOL Indians don't know how to use a forum properly, and here they think they can commandeer jets! Haha... Poverty struk kid? Go back to the kitchen and make me some Better Chicken... Least you know how...

 

[Dr sim]

Yes, they are VERY FAR below the MKI if you're using an inverted scale LMAO Get back to the kitchen now and cook me up some Rogan Josh, slave haha

J-11
The Shenyang J-11 (JianJiJi-11 or Jian-11, 歼击机-11 or 歼-11 in Chinese) with NATO reporting name: Flanker B+ is a single-seat, twin-engine jet fighter based on the Soviet-designed Sukhoi Su-27 (NATO reporting name: Flanker) air superiority fighter produced by the Shenyang Aircraft Corporation. The People's Liberation Army Air Force (PLAAF) of the People's Republic of China (PRC) is the sole operator of the aircraft.
In 1995, China secured a $2.5 billion production agreement which licensed China to build 200 Soviet-designed Sukhoi Su-27SK aircraft using Russian-supplied kits. Under the terms of the agreement, these aircraft would be outfitted with Russian avionics, radars and engines. However, only 95 of the original aircraft were delivered and the contact for the remaining 105 is still pending. It is believed that Russia cancelled the arrangement in 2006 after it discovered that China had reverse-engineered the technology and was developing an indigenous version, the J-11B. China however insists that it requested Russia to cease deliveries of the aircraft because it could no longer satisfy the PLAAF's requirements.[2] The J-11B variant while lacking the latest Russian features, does incorporate various Chinese modifications to the airframe in addition to the inclusion of Chinese avionics and weaponry.
Source-wikipedia


J-11 B
Russian sources also confirmed that SAC was pursuing a multirole variant of the J-11 designated J-11B with much greater Chinese-made content. At least three examples (#523, #524, and #525) of the J-11B have been delivered to the China Flight Test Establishment (CFTE) for flight test and evaluation since 2006. The aircraft was based on the Su-27SK/J-11 airframe, but with the following modifications:
An indigenous multifunctional pulse-Doppler fire-control radar reportedly capable of tracking 6~8 targets and engaging 4 of them simultaneously;(MKI BARS radar is far more powerful)
An indigenous digital flight-control system;
A Chinese copy of the Russian OEPS-27 electro-optic search and tracking system;
A strapdown INS/GPS navigation system;(included in MKI)
A ‘glass’ cockpit featuring four colour multifunctional displays (MFD) and a wide-angle holographic head-up display (HUD).(included in MKI)

Source-http://www.cctv.com/english/special/PLA_Air_Force_60_anni./20091111/103419.shtml

J-15(CARRIER BASED)

China's J-15 carrier-based fighter will not be able to compete with Russia's Su-33 fighter on global markets because it is inferior to the Russian aircraft, a Russian military analyst said on Friday.
China since 2001 has been developing the J-15 naval fighter, which is believed to be a clone of Russia's Su-33 Falcon-D. China bought an Su-33 prototype earlier from Ukraine, and used it to develop the new aircraft.
The J-15 is expected to be stationed initially onboard the Chinese Varyag aircraft carrier currently being fitted in the port of Dalian. China bought the unfinished Admiral Kuznetsov class aircraft carrier from Ukraine in 1998.
"The Chinese J-15 clone is unlikely to achieve the same performance characteristics of the Russian Su-33 carrier-based fighter, and I do not rule out the possibility that China could return to negotiations with Russia on the purchase of a substantial batch of Su-33s," said Col. (Ret.) Igor Korotchenko, a member of the Defense Ministry's Public Council.
The Su-33 is a carrier-based multi-role fighter, which can perform a variety of air superiority, fleet defense, air support and reconnaissance missions. The aircraft entered service with the Russian Navy in 1995 and are currently deployed on board the Admiral Kuznetsov aircraft carrier.
Korotchenko said China was unlikely to solve technical problems related to the design of the folding wings and to develop a reliable engine for the aircraft, although the first J-15 prototype reportedly made its maiden flight on August 31, 2009, powered by Chinese WS-10 turbofan engines.
China and Russia had been in negotiations on the sale of the Su-33 Flanker-D fighters to be used on future Chinese aircraft carriers since 2006, but the talks collapsed over China's request for an initial delivery of two aircraft for a "trial."
Russian Defense Ministry sources confirmed that the refusal was due to findings that China had produced its own copycat version of the Su-27SK fighter jet in violation of intellectual property agreements.
In 1995, China secured a $2.5-billion production license from Russia to build 200 Su-27SKs, dubbed J-11A, at the Shenyang Aircraft Corp.
The deal required the aircraft to be outfitted with Russian avionics, radars and engines. Russia cancelled the arrangement in 2006 after it discovered that China was developing an indigenous version, J-11B, with Chinese avionics and systems. The decision came after China had already produced at least 95 aircraft.
Last year, Russia refused again to sell the Su-33 to China even after Beijing had offered to buy 14 of them, saying that at least 24 jets should be sold to recoup production cost(to reverse engineer )

Source-http://en.rian.ru/mlitary_news/20100604/159306694.html

So why were u trying to purchase Su-33 from Russia when u have already developed J-15


Next time before Trolling ,kindly do some research