Chinese Aero Engine information thread

[Tiqiu]

Could this engine shortly appeard in the CAIC Paris Air Show film be the WS-15? It looks really short in length and having 32 fan blades(at 0:46).

This engine has 32 fan blades

AL-31F and FWS-10 has 37 and 28 fan blades respectively

 

[yusheng]

Motor Sich is moving to Chongqing China now,
estimated that there will be more than 2000 Ukrain experts working in Chongqing in the near futrue

According to Ukraine embassy in Beijing on June 6, 2017 website news, June 2, Ukraine's ambassador to China, Mr JiaoMing visit to chongqing, and chongqing leadership talks and visited chongqing tianjiao aviation industry base base (chongqing).JiaoMing ambassador said in talks with the chongqing leadership, the government of Ukraine for aviation engine project attaches great importance to bilateral cooperation, hope to continue to support in chongqing, make tianjiao project model of bilateral cooperation.Ukraine's state news agency and Ukraine other domestic media also reported the event.

chongqing aero engine base was established in 2015, Ukraine embassy official took part in foundation ceremony , this is the ambassador Jiao Ming second time visit , the ambassador came here again and was shocked by the sight.

Mr. JiaoMing praised engine base construction progress, said the construction progress beyond his imagination, such simply unthinkable in Ukraine.

On June 20th and 21st, the department of consular affairs deputy Liu Xu and chongqing vice mayor gui-ping liu met with Ukrainian officials related affairs.

Both sides negotiate a visa in China, the Ukrainian lengthen visa and consular protection problem, especially in chongqing.

chongqing base:

on zhuhai Air show, the joint company displayed several kind of aero engine:

other :
（科技日报北京6月1日电）
http://digitalpaper.stdaily.com/http_www.kjrb.com/kjrb/html/2017-06/02/content_370552.htm?div=-1

The article released some information never heard before;
Bilateral joint development of large wide-body passenger aircraft engine!
On May 31, in an interview with science and technology daily, Beijing tianjiao aviation industry investment co., LTD., innovation, vice President of the institute, the national "one thousand project" expert Wang Guangqiu.Of a new generation of aviation engine AI - 38 (China tianjiao airlines with Ukraine motor sich company based on D - 18 t engine).

CJ - 2000 and AI-38 thrust at about 30-34 tons.And AI - 38 derived type belongs to the new big bypass ratio engine, the prototype D - 18 t is famous for serving Ann - 225 and Ann - 124 two type conveyer for 22 years of "heart". AI-38 has three rotor structure, with high efficiency, small volume, light weight, etc.The latest news, bilateral joint engine manufacturing base in chongqing municipality has started to install test bed.

文章内之前从未有过的信息；中乌联合研制宽体大客机航空发动机！大运应该也能用。
5月31日，在接受科技日报记者采访时，北京天骄航空产业投资有限公司创新研究院副院长、国家“千人计划”专家王光秋。 中乌新一代航空发动机AI-38（中国天骄航空与乌克兰进步设计局、乌克兰马达西奇公司联合体共同在乌克兰D-18T发动机基础上研制开发）。CJ-2000和AI-38的推力约在30—34吨左右。 而中乌联合研制的AI-38属于衍生型新型大涵道比发动机，其原型机D-18T则是名震遐迩、已服役安-225及安-124两个型号运输机22年的“动力心脏”。乌克兰开发的大型涡扇发动机与罗罗公司的遄达系列发动机具有相同的三转子结构，具有效率高、体积小、重量轻等特点。最新消息，位于重庆的中乌联合发动机制造基地已开始安装试车台。

ps
2017年5月26日，国家工信部安全生产司副巡视员李维嘉一行到重庆天骄航空动力产业基地调研，并与公司领导座谈。天骄航空总裁杜涛、公司相关部门负责人陪同调研。

调研期间，杜涛总裁从企业概况、发展历程、项目进展等方面进行了汇报，其中重点介绍了重庆基地的安全生产工作开展情况。杜涛总裁介绍说，基地占地约7500亩，分为北、中、南3个区，2015年12月底开工建设，经过近一年半的时间，目前北区已经完成部分厂房的建设并即将交付使用，五年后基地将具备涡轴、涡桨、涡扇等多系列、多型号先进航空发动机研发、批产和维修保障能力。

 

[Asoka]

There is not one single piece of evidence that J-20 is using WS-15, huh?

【青峰视界】官方首次公开歼-20发动机为国产涡扇“峨眉”

今晚10点，央视4播出纪录片“走进中国”-“匠心第四集-工匠之家”中，介绍沈阳黎明发动机公司首席大师，片中直言：歼20发动机为中国第五代“峨眉”（涡扇-15/FWS-15）涡扇发动机。
这次公开的信息，直接回击了对中国航空发动机制造水平、能力的质疑和贬低，直接打了迄今一直鼓噪歼-20用“毛发”的小白们一记响亮的耳光！

 

[aliaselin]

第五个方式，是直接收购。现在中国的企业有能力了，想要一个企业索性把他收购了，一下把你控股权买了，买了以后自己给自己决策，把他搬到你这个地方资源优化配置，省得招来招去，讨论来讨论去。我们曾经干过一个事，就是把乌克兰的一个航空发动机工厂给收购了。整机组装都在俄罗斯，发动机都在乌克兰，乌克兰发动机保持供应俄罗斯。四年前他们吵架以后，俄罗斯也不买他的发动机，自己也能做发动机了。乌克兰尽管跟欧洲好，但是欧洲有空客，有自己的发动机，很强大，也不需要他，他这个企业就倒闭了。这个企业50年代、60年代一直是国有，90年代叶利钦变革以后，党委书记、董事长就变成董事长，变成私人老板了，总经理是他儿子。我们十亿美元收购了他的股权，然后花100多亿把他的企业搬到重庆，使重庆形成一个年生产上千个发动机的工厂。这是高科技，乌克兰的发动机水平比国内的发动机高好多倍，提前好多年，所以国内的市场是有需要的，而且我们本来就在采购他们的发动机，现在能本地制造更好。这个案例是收购了他，转为自己使用。

First time officially confirmed that Motor Sich has been purchased by Chongqin Government

 

[Daniel808]

One of the 3D Vector Nozzles under Development for an Engine Dedicated to the J-20 Stealth Fighter (WS-15 Engine?)

 

[JSCh]

China establishes first aero engine institute
(People's Daily Online) 17:05, August 29, 2017

China established its first aero engine institute in Nanchang, Jiangxi province, on Monday, in an effort to boost the country’s aero-engine industry, as well as wean itself from foreign suppliers.

The institute, which was jointly created by China’s leading aero tech giant Aero Engine Corporation of China (AECC) and Nanchang Hangkong University, aims to train high-end talents and carry out scientific research on engine-making.

“Aero engines are the gems of modern industrial manufacturing. They are often used to gauge a country’s comprehensive national power and technological capabilities. The establishment of China’s first aero engine institute is a fruit of cooperation between enterprises and universities, which will inject China’s engine industry with vitality,” Guo Zhongjie, Party chief of Nanchang Hangkong University, told Chinanews.cn.

China is gearing up to realize its dream of “taking off” by boosting a global aviation power. It goes all out with the state will and nationwide strength, targeting to have its own aircraft with home-made aero-engine.

According to Xinhua, China plans to catch up or surpass their western peers in 20 years. The plan outlined three phases for development: fill a vacancy, catch up, and then become equals.

 

[Raphael]

http://en.people.cn/n3/2017/0904/c90000-9264309.html

A Chinese private enterprise has successfully purified the rare metal rhenium to manufacture the single crystal blade, which is crucial for the production of aircraft engines, CCTV.com reported on Sept. 3.

The rare metal was purified after a year and a half effort by Chengdu Aerospace Superalloy Technology Co. Ltd. in cooperation with the Hunan Research Institute for Nonferrous Metals.

The company discovered a mine with about 176 tons of rhenium in Shaanxi province in 2010, accounting for 7 percent of the world’s total reserves of the metal.

A report released by the U.S. Geological Survey shows that the explored reserve of rhenium in the earth’s crust is only about 2,500 tons, even less than that of rare elements. The price for each gram is 200 to 300 RMB (about $31 to 46), which makes it as expensive as platinum.

The metal is the main material for producing the single crystal blade, which is crucial for manufacturing aircraft engines, and the technology directly affects the performance of the engine.

Zhang Zheng, chairman of the company, put together a professional team through the country’s talent recruitment program.

Verified results show that the single crystal blade met Europe and U.S quality standards in terms of tensile properties and endurance performance at high temperatures.

The success makes the company China’s first to achieve mass production of the single crystal blade for manufacturing aircraft engines.

Aircraft engines, as one of the most complicated mechanical systems, should be able to work under high temperatures, high pressures, high rotation speeds, and high load; and be high power, light weight, long lasting, and highly reliable.

China has been faced with a hurdle of self-developing aircraft engines, because the U.S. and some Western countries have blocked certain exports such as rhenium to China for many years.

 

[ZeEa5KPul]

The success makes the company China’s first to achieve mass production of the single crystal blade for manufacturing aircraft engines. Verified results show that the single crystal blade met Europe and U.S quality standards in terms of tensile properties and endurance performance at high temperatures.

Oh! This is tremendous, it's on now!

China has been faced with a hurdle of self-developing aircraft engines, because the U.S. and some Western countries have blocked certain exports such as rhenium to China for many years.

Lol at the hatin' US and its flunkies -- China just can't be stopped. Even if they block their exports, Chile produces most of the world's rhenium. Even if they could get Chile to halt exports -- which they can't, Chile is a sovereign country -- Kazakhstan produces plenty.

Keep thinking you can stop China. Your every export control makes China stronger and more self-reliant. More controls, please.

 

[Rafi]

Well done Chinese brothers and sisters.

 

[Cthulhu]

http://en.people.cn/n3/2017/0904/c90000-9264309.html

A Chinese private enterprise has successfully purified the rare metal rhenium to manufacture the single crystal blade, which is crucial for the production of aircraft engines, CCTV.com reported on Sept. 3.

The rare metal was purified after a year and a half effort by Chengdu Aerospace Superalloy Technology Co. Ltd. in cooperation with the Hunan Research Institute for Nonferrous Metals.

The company discovered a mine with about 176 tons of rhenium in Shaanxi province in 2010, accounting for 7 percent of the world’s total reserves of the metal.

A report released by the U.S. Geological Survey shows that the explored reserve of rhenium in the earth’s crust is only about 2,500 tons, even less than that of rare elements. The price for each gram is 200 to 300 RMB (about $31 to 46), which makes it as expensive as platinum.

The metal is the main material for producing the single crystal blade, which is crucial for manufacturing aircraft engines, and the technology directly affects the performance of the engine.

Zhang Zheng, chairman of the company, put together a professional team through the country’s talent recruitment program.

Verified results show that the single crystal blade met Europe and U.S quality standards in terms of tensile properties and endurance performance at high temperatures.

The success makes the company China’s first to achieve mass production of the single crystal blade for manufacturing aircraft engines.

Aircraft engines, as one of the most complicated mechanical systems, should be able to work under high temperatures, high pressures, high rotation speeds, and high load; and be high power, light weight, long lasting, and highly reliable.

China has been faced with a hurdle of self-developing aircraft engines, because the U.S. and some Western countries have blocked certain exports such as rhenium to China for many years.

This is a huge achievement, Congrats.

 

[friendly_troll96]

 

[Kiss_of_the_Dragon]

http://en.people.cn/n3/2017/0904/c90000-9264309.html

China has been faced with a hurdle of self-developing aircraft engines, because the U.S. and some Western countries have blocked certain exports such as rhenium to China for many years.

WTF, these westerners complain to WTO that China set restriction of selling rare earth but they block rhenium export to China...and China did nothing.

 

[Jlaw]

WTF, these westerners complain to WTO that China set restriction of selling rare earth but they block rhenium export to China...and China did nothing.

China leadership is weak.

 

[atan651]

Very weak indeed! China needs an aggressive military general instead of Xi.

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

Congradulations to Chinese brothers on their remarkable achivement