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China’s Worst Nightmare: Is a U.S.- India Military Alliance Brewing?

Actually, its the other way around. China is the United States worst nightmare. Tell me, who other than China can stand up to the self proclaimed world dictator ("superpower"), who? India? Russia? Philippines? (LOL jk) everyone else seems to just accept it and bend over to US hegemony. Some countries are against it, but they are too weak to really do anything--and then there's China, who is incrementally stripping away US power and influence in all fronts. Strategically speaking, China is a huge threat to US hegemony, especially in the Asia-Pacific where the US have long enjoyed their dominance from their invasions and historical Western colonialism (subjugation of Asian countries). It is only until now that an actual contender is feasible.

What does the US do? create the narrative that China is the threat to the region (LOL), how ironic? China is the threat in her own neighborhood, while the foreign interventionist and ex-colonial powers are the savior! there are actually some folks that buy into this--THEY are the threat. of course, they are naive and brainwashed--but cant really blame them, Asia was under Western total subjugation for hundreds of years, lots of peoples minds and perceptions are screwed up.

Now regarding South China Sea, it is imperative that the sea lanes and access remain open and free (almost 90% of China's economy depend on the sea lanes in the SCS)--but there is a big threat looming, that is the US, what if hostilities beak out and the US uses its warships to blockade China? To prevent that, China is building up a dominant position in the south china sea, absolute control of the SCS is the goal for China's sovereignty and the prosperity for China and the region. To spin this, the US is pushing the China threat narrative, trying to paint China as some aggressor trying to expand and bully its way into "other" nations territory (B. S.). China does not want or cares about the land of any of the peripheral states in the SCS--never have. They don't matter. It is only the sea itself and the islands in it that are crucial.

Mughals were done even before the British, and there was also a Hong Kong and a Macao not so long ago, the last remaining European colony in Asia was in China, and there is still a Taiwan.

what about Taiwan? they are the "rebel" Chinese-state, still part of China though, but governs themselves. Not a colony in any way though.

Qing (Manchu) dynasties is a totally diffirent story. Manchu was totally absorbed into our culture: using our language, adopting our system and totally blending into Han. and most of the high-ranking officials were also Han, that is why they ruled for so long cause people didn't tell the diffirence.

Even so, we still got our revenge after 1911. Manchu ended up worse even than mongals, totally disspeared from the world.

Yes, Manchu colonized themselves.
 
No its your surmises.

We have an interest in the region. We are exploring the oil with our allies to which china illegitimately opposes. More over we need to convey china that you are not a boss and your hegemony is not acceptable. We denounce your acting as the regional or world power. Any mischief or illegal act of china will be dealt sticktly. The massage was required to be conveyed and it is conveyed now.

Yes, India does have any interest in the region, but until she can establish a permanent and resounding presence in the SCS, no country in that region have a reason to be unnerved.

Philippines, Vietnam, and other ASEAN nations are actively building infrastructure as well as bolstering their military forces which, unlike those of India, are permanently based in the vicinity of the SCS. These actions have a long-term impact on China's ability to establish influence, and hence such actions have drawn Beijing's attention in the past.

India's military exercise, on the other hand, does not impart any significant effect on the balance of power within the SCS and, as some other members have pointed out, is more symbolic than strategic. That isn't to say that this exercise cannot be telling of a larger pivot to East Asia by India, but this military maneuver isn't it.
 
I do not like the idea of going against China because US said so. This should be century of Asia.

What happened in WW2. It was fought in Europe and every winning country was in debt of US. This was how the US became industrial giant. I do not want any war in Asian continent although i want war. We have too much population and big war is good solution to get rid of it. Ideal situation would be to fight it in middle east or europe again. India just need to supply at least 400 million soldiers :). Once the young man are gone the population will reduce dramatically. At least this planet will be saved from over crowding of human race. We are simply killing the mother nature.
 
goood ..but never trust america ...apna hi sochenge end main
 
Hey! Aj kal media mein bahut South China ka zikar sunta hoon. When did it start? I mean the India's current engagement with that region. Specify the event which heralds this NEW strategy.

it is a too long discussion. Listen to sting of pearl strategy of china and iron curtain of india and how modi dismantled chinese string of pearl and Modi's act east policy. This is too long to be discussed here.
 
Nice attempt at trolling But,
We are too big to become a colony and too ambitious to allow unlike out western neighbour who was playing in USA's lap once and now playing in China's lap. And for your kind information, we are doing agreements on equality basis and do not need some aid for which we will dance on their tunes.

To be an ally of US is good. Do you know where the US military base will be located in India?
 
Yes, India does have any interest in the region, but until she can establish a permanent and resounding presence in the SCS, no country in that region have a reason to be unnerved.

Philippines, Vietnam, and other ASEAN nations are actively building infrastructure as well as bolstering their military forces which, unlike those of India, are permanently based in the vicinity of the SCS. These actions have a long-term impact on China's ability to establish influence, and hence such actions have drawn Beijing's attention in the past.

India's military exercise, on the other hand, does not impart any significant effect on the balance of power within the SCS and, as some other members have pointed out, is more symbolic than strategic. That isn't to say that this exercise cannot be telling of a larger pivot to East Asia by India, but this military maneuver isn't it.
Well, every ASEAN country asking India to play active role, as IN is powerful navy and can challenge china.

Viets , already provide its one Port for Dock & repair of IN ships. In future IA will convert these base into full military installation by installing SAM , Anti-Ship missiles.
 
Now the hot weather in India kills many people, I think the highest temperature is 51 centigrade? Does it burn some buddies CPU down? India can't be USA ally, it's on the verge of the circle of trust. Whatever......

Well, every ASEAN country asking India to play active role, as IN is powerful navy and can challenge china.

Viets , already provide its one Port for Dock & repair of IN ships. In future IA will convert these base into full military installation by installing SAM , Anti-Ship missiles.
How can you challenge China when you raised a cock on your carrier?
 
Well, every ASEAN country asking India to play active role, as IN is powerful navy and can challenge china.

Viets , already provide its one Port for Dock & repair of IN ships. In future IA will convert these base into full military installation by installing SAM , Anti-Ship missiles.

No doubt India's Navy ranks well above those of southeast Asian nations, but whether India will be viewed as a threat to Beijing's claims in the SCS lies in the Indian Navy's ability to maintain and augment a presence in the region while undertaking patrols on a much more frequent basis than it is doing now. Such a strategic swivel would take time, money, and most importantly, sufficient naval tonnage.
 
I do not like the idea of going against China because US said so. This should be century of Asia.

What happened in WW2. It was fought in Europe and every winning country was in debt of US. This was how the US became industrial giant. I do not want any war in Asian continent although i want war. We have too much population and big war is good solution to get rid of it. Ideal situation would be to fight it in middle east or europe again. India just need to supply at least 400 million soldiers :). Once the young man are gone the population will reduce dramatically. At least this planet will be saved from over crowding of human race. We are simply killing the mother nature.
400 millions March to Paris, China can provide 600 millions.
 
As far as britishers go, WE kicked them out. Ask them.

Omg look what this owner of 56 inches was taught in Indian high school! :p

So let me ask you, what about the dozens of other colonies the British vacated shortly after WW2?

It appears EVERYONE kicked them out, no? Every little, weak, malnourished, colonized lot.

There must have been something seriously wrong with the 'might' of the British empire, post war!
 
No doubt India's Navy ranks well above those of southeast Asian nations, but whether India will be viewed as a threat to Beijing's claims in the SCS lies in the Indian Navy's ability to maintain and augment a presence in the region while undertaking patrols on a much more frequent basis than it is doing now. Such a strategic swivel would take time, money, and most importantly, sufficient naval tonnage.
India have very complicated domestic affairs to deal with, a 2980000 SQM land hosts 1.2 billions population. Just too much.
 
Now the hot weather in India kills many people, I think the highest temperature is 51 centigrade? Does it burn some buddies CPU down? India can't be USA ally, it's on the verge of the circle of trust. Whatever......


How can you challenge China when you raised a cock on your carrier?
lol , for your our frigate is equal to your most of destroyers..... lol

Omg look what this owner of 56 inches was taught in Indian high school! :p

So let me ask you, what about the dozens of other colonies the British vacated shortly after WW2?

It appears EVERYONE kicked them out, no? Every little, weak, malnourished, colonized lot.

There must have been something seriously wrong with the 'might' of the British empire, post war!
but also keep with them Like HK, Macow , islands in Indian ocean , Latin America?
 
lol , for your our frigate is equal to your most of destroyers..... lol


but also keep with them Like HK, Macow , islands in Indian ocean , Latin America?
Did you refer to the 12000 tons 055DDG we are building now? Dismantle all the imported part on Kolkota class, it's just a hull.
 
Did you refer to the 12000 tons 055DDG we are building now? Dismantle all the imported part on Kolkota class, it's just a hull.
lol, its look like you started making destroyers today....or wake up today morning

Destroyers
A) Type 051 - 3,670 T
B) Type 052 - 4,800 T
C) Type 051B - 6,100 T
D) Type 52B - 6,500 T
E) Type 52C -7000 T
F) Type 51C -7100 T
G) Type 52D -7500 T

Frigate -
A) Type 054A -4,000 T
B) Type )53 - 2,000 T


IN
Frigate -
A) Shivalik - 6,800 T
B) Talwar Class - 4,450 T

Destroyers -
INS Delhi - 6,700
INS kolkatta - 7,500 T
 

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