China's Warm welcome awaits Admiral Mike Mullen

[siegecrossbow]

While the U.S. had no bone to pick with China, the Japanese and Russians did. As GRU defector "Victor Suvorov" wrote, the Soviets had an extensive intelligence network in Japan throughout the Cold War. Powerful enough to get Japanese agents to do their bidding at times, maybe even with Japanese gov't connivance. Just a small matter of Russia providing info to a Japanese agent who then passed it on to Vietnam. (Doing it that way prevented a direct confrontation between China and Russia, I guess.)

Then this is an espionage attempt by the Soviets through Japanese agents, not something the Japanese agreed to themselves.

 

[Solomon2]

Then this is an espionage attempt by the Soviets through Japanese agents, not something the Japanese agreed to themselves.

Probably. But would the Japanese stop it if they knew? I guess not; the Japanese were more afraid of China than of Vietnam.

Still, you're right: I'm unfairly maligning the Japanese.

 

[siegecrossbow]

Probably. But would the Japanese stop it if they knew? Probably not; the Japanese were more afraid of China than of Vietnam.

Come on man you need to do more research. In the late 70s through 80s Japan was deathly afraid of the Soviet Union, not China. Sino-Japanese relations were at the highest in recent history and massive amounts of Japanese investment poured into China due to Deng's opening of the economy. China was seen as an ally in encircling the Soviet Union.

 

[Solomon2]

Come on man you need to do more research...

Doubtless I've forgotten a great deal since the 70s and 80s when the main U.S. concern was the Soviet Union.

 

[peaceful]

As of today, we still see Russia as China's No.1 enemy.
US, on the other hand, are just business partner with different views.

 

[peaceful]

They don't have to go to war with China, they need only pass on intelligence to Vietnam sufficient for China to be defeated if conflict between them does occur. (Wasn't that what the Japanese did in 1979?)

what a bloody huge load of joke.

 

[Juice]

The military's performance in 1979 was far from a 90. Tactically it was poorly led and organized. The troops were under-equipped and suffering from lack of training due to Cultural Revolution. We didn't force Vietnam to withdraw from Cambodia and we never pushed deeper than 60km.

If you're talking about the period from 1984 to 1989, then yes we did beat them to a pulp.

I am old enough to remember that little engagement (1979). The Chinese were shocked at the rough time they got. After the war the US gave them sat pics we took of the ambushes the Viets had set up for them. The Chinese decided then that they would get thier own so the same wouldn't happen again.

 

[Way to go]

Are you sure???

Wasn't that war backed by your Yank!? How could Japanese pass on intelligent to Vietnam at that time while Japan was absolutely have no military activities and influences!?

.............

Agree with you.

 

[Way to go]

They don't have to go to war with China, they need only pass on intelligence to Vietnam sufficient for China to be defeated if conflict between them does occur. (Wasn't that what the Japanese did in 1979?)

Then China may pass on intelligence to Afghanistan ,Libya....etc. Don't get poisoned by the peaceful this peaceful that statements from Chinese leaders. Look at history, China is as peaceful/aggressive as other countries.

Other countries should not take China's peaceful statements as signs of weakness and Softness. China can behave like North Korea or Iran at anytime.

 

[peaceful]

I am old enough to remember that little engagement (1979). The Chinese were shocked at the rough time they got. After the war the US gave them sat pics we took of the ambushes the Viets had set up for them. The Chinese decided then that they would get thier own so the same wouldn't happen again.

why such fancy satellite images didn't save the US from losing the Vietnam war?

 

[Chinese Century]

who was that chinese general that mullen met?
the general was in a picture with like 5 others.

it was not chen bingde or liang guanglie.

some other general.

anyone know?

 

[peaceful]

who was that chinese general that mullen met?
the general was in a picture with like 5 others.

it was not chen bingde or liang guanglie.

some other general.

anyone know?

Xiaotian Ma.

 

[Chinese Century]

Xiaotian Ma.

deleted.....

 

[Chinese Century]

i found out who he was now.

Guo Boxiong

 

[DV RULES]

US will maintain South China Sea presence: Mullen


Mon, Jul 11, 2011

The US is committed to maintaining its presence in the South China Sea, US Joint Chiefs of Staff Chairman Admiral Mike Mullen said in China yesterday, adding that Washington was worried that disputes over the resource-rich waters could lead to serious conflict.

China has been embroiled in rows with the Philippines and Vietnam in recent months over what each government sees as intrusions and illegitimate claims in the stretch of ocean spanning key shipping lanes.

“The worry, among others that I have, is that the ongoing incidents could spark a miscalculation and an outbreak that no one anticipated,” Mullen said at the start of a four-day visit to China.

Despite unease over China’s growing military capabilities and assertiveness in the disputed waters, US-China military relations have thawed in recent months and Mullen’s trip to China is seen a reciprocal visit for the one by People’s Liberation Army (PLA) Chief of the General Staff Chen Bingde (陳炳&#24503 to Washington in May.

That visit marked the countries’ highest-level military-to-military talks since China severed ties early last year over US$6.4 billion in US arms sale to Taiwan.

The US has pledged its support to the Philippines in the South China Sea, which is believed to harbor rich oil and gas reserves, but Beijing insists on handling disputes on a one-on-one basis rather than multilaterally.

Taiwan, China, the Philippines, Malaysia, Brunei and Vietnam all claim territory in the South China Sea. China’s claim is the largest, incorporating most of the sea’s 1.7 million square kilometers, including the Spratly (南沙群&#23798 and Paracel archipelagos (西沙群&#23798.

China and the US broached the South China Sea issue at talks in Hawaii last month and the topic could dominate the agenda at an upcoming meeting of ASEAN foreign ministers in Indonesia.

The official English-language China Daily newspaper said in an editorial on Friday that ASEAN should not tolerate attempts by outside forces to interfere in bilateral disputes, a thinly veiled swipe at US promises of support for the Philippines and proposed military exercises with Vietnam.

However, Mullen, while emphasizing the US desire to see a peaceful resolution to territorial claims in the South China Sea, also said Washington would not quit the region.

“The US is not going away. Our enduring presence in this region has been important to our allies for decades and will continue to be so,” he said.

Meanwhile, Mullen urged Beijing to use its relationship with North Korea to ensure regional stability, while warning Pyongyang against further provocations.

“North Korea and the leadership of North Korea is only predictable in one sense and that is — if you base it historically — they will continue to provocate,” Mullen told reporters.

Six-party nuclear disarmament talks, grouping the two Koreas, China, Japan, Russia and the US have been stalled since the North abandoned them in April 2009. It staged its second nuclear test a month later.

“The Chinese leadership, they have a strong relationship with the leadership in Pyongyang and they exercise that routinely ... continuing to do that as they have done in the past is really important,” Mullen said.

Mullen’s trip coincided with a joint naval exercise with the US, Japanese and Australian navies in the South China Sea that began on Saturday.


US will maintain South China Sea presence: Mullen - Taipei Times