China's Vanishing Muslims - Undercover agent in Xinjiang

[fisher1]

Wow, i don't know how China has the guts to deny even after all this.

Look at how those police thugs bullied her and treated her and she's a British journalist. Imagine what these bastards must be doing to Uighurs who China isn't afraid of.

Sickening. I can't believe this is happening in 2019. The surveillance, the cops following her and the fear on faces of people, this is why China doesn't allow journalists. So the world doesn't get to see the terrorism they're doing on Uighurs.

@Umair Nawaz Are you going to call this Western propaganda too?

 

[nang2]

Wow, i don't know how China has the guts to deny even after all this.

Look at how those police thugs bullied her and treated her and she's a British journalist. Imagine what these bastards must be doing to Uighurs who China isn't afraid of.

Sickening. I can't believe this is happening in 2019. The surveillance, the cops following her and the fear on faces of people, this is why China doesn't allow journalists. So the world doesn't get to see the terrorism they're doing on Uighurs.

That's right. China is a terrorist. I felt terror just watching how she was followed and treated and every second i was afraid some Chinese would approach her and seize her.

Like ISIS brainwashes people, these Chinese are brainwashing Uighurs and their childrens with same terrorist effeciancy.

@Umair Nawaz Are you going to call this Western propaganda too?

Until some Chinese strap bombs on their chests and blow themselves up in some civilian crowds, don't call China a terrorist. However she was treated is a far cry from being terrorists. Do you even know what a terrorist does? I suggest you to watch the video of some Uyghurs waving knives and cutting people out on a train station.

 

[pakpride00090]

Chinese folks will probably dismiss this as propaganda.

 

[Hex0maniac]

Pakistan should play a positive role in that region.

Pakistan is not only the victim but also survivor of this religious extremism. I think china should add Pakistan in reeducation of Uighur people.

Not only it stops different country that are giving the narrative that, they are imposing their idea of religion (atheist) in the name of reeducation.

Plus to have a Muslim perspective helps to de-escalate and solve the situation sooner and less controversially.

 

[fisher1]

Until some Chinese strap bombs on their chests and blow themselves up in some civilian crowds, don't call China a terrorist. However she was treated is a far cry from being terrorists. Do you even know what a terrorist does? I suggest you to watch the video of some Uyghurs waving knives and cutting people out on a train station.

Terrorism is inciting terror in the hearts of people. By that definition, China is a terrorist because it is terrorising Uighurs and even me who watched the video was terrified for the journalist. She was in terror too.

Anyway, I've edited the thread because i know it will become the focal point instead of the video itself.

Anything you've to say about the video?

 

[zectech]

Who says there are not any re-education centers, some Chinese members here prided themselves that there are re-education centers. The problem is in the details. Are there 6 million held in concentration camps where they are fed only pork and turned into lampshades like Nazi Germany? This is where zionist media is stirring up trouble, deliberately.

HBO should not be involved in conspiracy theories involving China and the Turks and cover real crimes of Washington:

 

[beijingwalker]

Wow, i don't know how China has the guts to deny even after all this.

Look at how those police thugs bullied her and treated her and she's a British journalist. Imagine what these bastards must be doing to Uighurs who China isn't afraid of.

Sickening. I can't believe this is happening in 2019. The surveillance, the cops following her and the fear on faces of people, this is why China doesn't allow journalists. So the world doesn't get to see the terrorism they're doing on Uighurs.

@Umair Nawaz Are you going to call this Western propaganda too?

Instead of coming out in a freezing snowy day, I suggest them a regular smmer day. You will see all " disappeared" coming out, you won't see many people in a freezing snowy winter day even in Beijing.

 

[Numerous]

Pakistan should play a positive role in that region.

Pakistan is not only the victim but also survivor of this religious extremism. I think china should add Pakistan in reeducation of Uighur people.

Not only it stops different country that are giving the narrative that, they are imposing their idea of religion (atheist) in the name of reeducation.

Plus to have a Muslim perspective helps to de-escalate and solve the situation sooner and less controversially.

There is no need for "reeducation". They are simply thrown into those hellhole camps because they are ugihur Muslims.

Any kind of support whatsoever to China in this matter is helping them oppress Muslims.

 

[beijingwalker]

Any kind of support whatsoever to China in this matter is helping them oppress Muslims.

The whole Mulsim world and all the non western and northern European countires except for Japan.

 

[Globenim]

Are you going to call this Western propaganda too?

This is what a trip in a "shut down" and "oppressed" major Chinese tourist hub and a "terrified" "journalist" looks like according to Western Propaganda when you cut out the scary music and narration.

 

[Numerous]

The whole Mulsim world and all the non western and northern European countires except for Japan.

No. Just the spineless Muslim leaders and a few brainwashed or immoral fools. But the average Muslim certainly does not support your oppression of uighurs.

 

[Mav3rick]

Until some Chinese strap bombs on their chests and blow themselves up in some civilian crowds, don't call China a terrorist. However she was treated is a far cry from being terrorists. Do you even know what a terrorist does? I suggest you to watch the video of some Uyghurs waving knives and cutting people out on a train station.

You mean the only definition of a terrorist is someone who straps a bomb to his/her chest and blows it in a civilian crowd? Subjugation, victimization, denial of rights, inhumane treatment, illegal and immoral conditioning of minorities, forced indoctrination etc., is any less then terrorism???

I did not watch the video, I merely commented on the first line of your post. And friends or not, if China is mistreating Muslims then we will raise our voice and concern as we are Muslims before we are Pakistani.

 

[fisher1]

Who says there are not any re-education centers, some Chinese members here prided themselves that there are re-education centers. The problem is in the details. Are there 6 million held in concentration camps where they are fed only pork and turned into lampshades like Nazi Germany? This is where zionist media is stirring up trouble, deliberately.

HBO should not be involved in conspiracy theories involving China and the Turks and cover real crimes of Washington:

Oh yeah, it's all zionist media. Except even in my country i can roam freely near military installations and interview people and the most I'll get from army officers there are a friendly greeting and a gentle reminder that i shouldn't be so close. That's how people act in free countries where the government isn't re-enacting a holocaust and afraid of what the public might find out.

Meanwhile, In the free Xinjiang province in the middle of the free city, interviewing the free people, you get a bunch of Chinese police/army thugs who detain you, tell you to shut the fick up, scare the crap out of you and seize your camera footage. Then they get on your *** and follow you and tell you explicitly you're under suspicion.

Why? Because you talked to a bunch of people and photographed the city.

You think we don't understand why the Chinese are doing this? Because they are

A) Torturing Uighurs in Nazi style concentration camps
B) Separating children from Uighur mothers and raising them in Chinese communist propaganda incubation centres so the next generation would be devoid of Islam.
C) Harvesting Uighurs organs, raping them and treating them like human appliances ready for different uses
D) God knows what other sick things are being committed by China

The whole of Urumqi and Kashgar is a gigantic open prison for Uighurs and China is giving this perception of nothing is happening by allowing tourists but with extreme surveillance and not allowing them to photograph anything except abandoned mosques and tourist spots and not even talk to people.

That's how a government that has to hide everything acts. The whole city looked like a prison. The number of cameras everywhere, the police/army following her. Exactly how a prison is and how a government would act if its scared of someone finding something out.

Then these Chinese have the audacity to say go and bring proofs. How the heck would someone bring proofs when you're followed and bullied by Chinese and camera footage deleted every two steps?

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This is what a trip in a "shut down" and "oppressed" major Chinese tourist hub and a "terrified" "journalist" looks like according to Western Propaganda when you cut out the scary music and narration.

In other words, remove the whole context and the Chinese army thugs bullying. Oh yes, it looks like Western propaganda indeed. Read the paragraph above, i dissected the video.

Instead of coming out in a freezing snowy day, I suggest them a regular smmer day. You will see all " disappeared" coming out, you won't see many people in a freezing snowy winter day even in Beijing.

So will she be allowed to talk to people and use her camera and not be followed by Chinese police/army thugs in sunny weather? They just don't like her visiting in cold weather?

 

[beijingwalker]

No. Just the spineless Muslim leaders and a few brainwashed or immoral fools. But the average Muslim certainly does not support your oppression of uighurs.

You can call all Muslim leaders are spineless, but maybe that's why they can become leaders cause they have brains and you can only be you. All Muslim governments support China, that's all we need, as for individual people's postions, only good in PDF and can't have the slightest influence between the country to country relations.

I did not watch the video, I merely commented on the first line of your post. And friends or not, if China is mistreating Muslims then we will raise our voice and concern as we are Muslims before we are Pakistani.[/QUOT]
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Your voice was heard along with the rest of 36 countries signing a letter defending China, much appreciated

 

[BL33D]

Pakistan should play a positive role in that region.

Pakistan is not only the victim but also survivor of this religious extremism. I think china should add Pakistan in reeducation of Uighur people.

Not only it stops different country that are giving the narrative that, they are imposing their idea of religion (atheist) in the name of reeducation.

Plus to have a Muslim perspective helps to de-escalate and solve the situation sooner and less controversially.

just to make it clear atheism is not a religion, what china is doing is called state religion, atheism is just an answer to one question whether you believe there is a god or not. not a religion. just so that people dont confuse state religion like in china and soviet union to atheism.