China’s Submarine Fleet, Evolution & news

[Akasa]

Credits go to Forbin on SDF, who consolidated all of the rumored information and summarized it:

Type 09III
Type 09III

407 (Launched on 26/12/2002, entered service 12/2006)
408 (Launched in 2003, entered service 2007)​

Type 09IIIA

413 (Launched in 2012, entered service 2015?)​

Type 09IIIB

414 (launched)
415 (launched)
416 (launched)
417 (confirmed to be in construction via satellite photos)
418 (confirmed to be in construction via satellite photos)​

TOTAL: 8 Type 09III (3 09III, 1 09IIIA, 3 09IIIB) completed

Type 09V

419 (rumored to be in construction)​

TOTAL: 0 (1 under construction)

Type 09IV

409 (launched on 28/07/2004, entered service 2007)
415 (launched in 2006, entered service 2010)
416 (launched in 2007, entered service 2013)
417 (launched in 12/2007, entered service 2014?)​

TOTAL: 4 Type 09IV

@cirr @星海军事 Can you corroborate the rumors regarding the 09V construction?

 

[Tiqiu]

Type 09IV
409 (launched on 28/07/2004, entered service 2007)

You are right. It seems that the so called "409" SSN quoted by the Indonesian Navy passing the Malacca is misrepresentation. According to the photo taken In President Xi's visit last year, "409" is Chinese SSBN 094

 

[星海军事]

You are right. It seems that the so called "409" SSN quoted by the Indonesian Navy passing the Malacca is misrepresentation. According to the photo taken In President Xi's visit last year, "409" is Chinese SSBN 094View attachment 314781

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长征九号≠409. The former is the name of the sub and the latter is the hull number.

 

[Tiqiu]

This new type of 094 definitely has the sail cusp attached to the hull and lower leading edge of the submarine sail to smooth laminar flow of water over its surface, thereby improving hydrodynamic performance of the submarine.

The sail cusp to be used on US next eight Virginia Class nuclear attack submarines

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

Credits go to Forbin on SDF, who consolidated all of the rumored information and summarized it:

Type 09III
Type 09III

407 (Launched on 26/12/2002, entered service 12/2006)
408 (Launched in 2003, entered service 2007)​

Type 09IIIA

413 (Launched in 2012, entered service 2015?)​

Type 09IIIB

414 (launched)
415 (launched)
416 (launched)
417 (confirmed to be in construction via satellite photos)
418 (confirmed to be in construction via satellite photos)​

TOTAL: 8 Type 09III (3 09III, 1 09IIIA, 3 09IIIB) completed

Type 09V

419 (rumored to be in construction)​

TOTAL: 0 (1 under construction)

Type 09IV

409 (launched on 28/07/2004, entered service 2007)
415 (launched in 2006, entered service 2010)
416 (launched in 2007, entered service 2013)
417 (launched in 12/2007, entered service 2014?)​

TOTAL: 4 Type 09IV

@cirr @星海军事 Can you corroborate the rumors regarding the 09V construction?

Now we have at least 2 more Type 09IVB, and the second batch of the Type 09IV should be also four.

Overall, there will be eight Type 09IV SSBNs being deployed before 2020.

 

[grey boy 2]

This maybe the rumor "094A" SSBN

 

[Tiqiu]

Now we have at least 2 more Type 09IVB, and the second batch of the Type 09IV should be also four.

Overall, there will be eight Type 09IV SSBNs being deployed before 2020.

That is an accurate estimate.
There are four 094 in the service, the first of which is #409 that Xi has visited.
There are two 094G(G means modification)
There are two 096 are being built or nearly completed.

Three 094 were spotted at one port. This was a deliberate act of China for the interested country to calculate how many SSBN China has since they can add the number of SSBN observed from other area around the same time to reach a total.

Difference on the rudder of 094,092G and 094G

094 vs 096

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

That is an accurate estimate.
There are four 094 in the service, the first of which is #409 that Xi has visited.
There are two 094G(G means modification)
There are two 096 are being built or nearly completed.

Three 094 were spotted at one port. This was a deliberate act of China for the interested country to calculate how many SSBN China has since they can add the number of SSBN observed from other area around the same time to reach a total.
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Difference on the rudder of 094,092G and 094G
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094 vs 096
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The final number for the Type 094 will be 8, and the number for the Type 096 will likely be 12, because China is more satisfied with the performance of the Type 096 than its predecessor, that's why they will build more.

Each SSBN can submerge into the water for 3 months, hence you will need at least 4 SSBNs for the entire annual cycle.

8 SSBNs means each time there will be 2 SSBNs patrolling simultaneously, while 12 SSBNs means each time there will be 3 SSBNs. So 12 should be enough for China's naval based nuclear deterrence.

 

[Tiqiu]

The final number for the Type 094 will be 8, and the number for the Type 096 will likely be 12, because China is more satisfied with the performance of the Type 096 than its predecessor, that's why they will build more.

Each SSBN can submerge in to the water for 3 months, hence you will need at least 4 SSBNs for the entire annual cycle.

8 SSBNs means each time there will be 2 SSBNs patrolling simultaneously, while 12 SSBNs means each time there will be 3 SSBNs. So 12 should be enough for China's naval based nuclear deterrence.

Why not? China has the money and China has the needs.

 

[Tiqiu]

These photos seemed to be taken at a closer angle compared to the previous 3 094 photo. Note two 094 have sail cusps and one 093 does not have look-out windows on its sail(you may need to download and enlarge).

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

Why not? China has the money and China has the needs.

12 Type 096 SSBNs with 16 JL-3 SLBMs with 10 MIRV warheads, so that should be 12 x 16 x 10 = 1920 thermonuclear warheads in potential for China's naval nuclear deterrence.

 

[Beast]

 

[argonautluk]

Sudden changes of Chinese military. Awesome!

 

[grey boy 2]

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[星海军事]

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