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BEIJING — Kingsoft Corp.'s English-Chinese dictionary program is used on most of China's 60 million PCs. That's the good news. The bad news: Kingsoft doesn't make any money from it, because 90 percent of those copies are pirated.

One by one, the Beijing-based software maker has seen its sales of such popular products destroyed after black market producers flooded the market with cheap copies.

Today, Kingsoft's 600 programmers focus on making what it hopes can't be copied — online games and business and anti-virus programs that have to be linked to its own computers in order to function.

“Piracy has had a big impact on us, making it so we can't get powerful and compete with Microsoft,” said Ren Jian, a former Microsoft manager who is Kingsoft's chief operating officer.

Kingsoft is far from alone. Rampant Chinese piracy of music, movies and software that raises howls of protest from the United States, Europe and elsewhere is hitting China's fledgling creative industries hardest of all. Robbed of sales in their key home market, companies are short of money to develop new products to compete with foreign rivals.

Losses to piracy are especially damaging at a time when communist leaders want China to transform itself from the world's low-cost factory into an “innovation society” that makes its own profitable technology and brand names.

China has long been the world's leading source of illegally copied music, movies, designer clothes and other goods. U.S. officials say its exports cost legitimate producers worldwide up to $50 billion a year in lost potential sales.

50 cents for a DVD
At home, sidewalk vendors sell unlicensed DVDs of Chinese movies for as little as 50 cents. Software makers say more than 80 percent of programs used on China's PCs are pirated.

Few brands are immune. A government list released this month of recent major piracy cases included a gang that sold $300,000 worth of fake Wuliangye, a popular Chinese liquor. Another trafficked in counterfeit upmarket Chunghua cigarettes.

Sporting goods maker Li Ning Co., which has ambitions to expand abroad, says it sees copies of its shoes and athletic clothes in markets alongside Nike and Adidas counterfeits.

Kingsoft, the software maker, aspired to be the “Microsoft of China,” but was forced by piracy to stop selling games, a media player and other mass-market programs. Ren, the COO, says the consumer logic is simple: A pirated copy of Kingsoft's Chinese-English dictionary costs one-tenth the $12 price of the real thing.

The onslaught has forced Kingsoft to narrow its product range, with two-thirds of its programmers now working on online role-playing games that players access on Kingsoft's computers for a monthly fee — part of a thriving Chinese market for online games.

President Hu Jintao called attention to piracy's cost to China in a May 27 speech to Communist Party officials. Enforcement “is an urgent need for ... enhancing the country's core competitiveness,” Hu said.

“We should strengthen our law enforcement and lawfully and severely crack down on and effectively curb law-breaking and criminal acts of violating intellectual property rights,” he said.

The government has tried to undercut the black market for software by ordering computer makers this year to sell PCs only with legitimate operating systems already installed. Officials have been told to remove pirated software from government computers. Commerce Minister Bo Xilai said in March that process was under way, but he set no deadline for compliance.

And Chinese companies are fighting back in court. The government says they are responsible for 90 percent of lawsuits filed against Chinese copyright and trademark violators.

Yet trade groups and foreign governments say that despite repeated crackdowns, China's output of pirated goods is rising steadily, along with its rapid economic growth.

A report in May by the American Chamber of Commerce in China said that 43 percent of 76 U.S. companies surveyed said they have seen an increase in the amount of counterfeiting of their products, while 55 percent said the amount has stayed the same. Only 7 percent saw a decrease.

Film and music companies relunctant
Losses to piracy have made film studios and muic companies reluctant to finance new releases at a time when they might be cashing in on rising foreign interest in Chinese pop culture.

Chinese musicians say piracy makes producing new CDs so unprofitable that they are treated as just promotional material for concerts, which provide performers' real income.

Web sites that carry unlicensed copies of CDs often give away the music for free and make money from advertising. That takes advantage of a provision in Chinese law — one that trade groups are lobbying Beijing to change — that requires pirated goods to be sold before violators can be prosecuted.

Chengdu Xiangsha Music Co., in the southwestern city of Chengdu, got out of its main business of distributing CDs and promoting new performers in 2003 when it saw that losses to piracy “would be huge,” said general manager Liu Jiming.

Now Xiangsha focuses on supplying music to Web sites and mobile phone companies, Liu said.

“Things are much better now,” he said. “But we are still bothered by illegal downloads and online linking.”
 
I guess it isn't enough that you choose to spam the China defence section with all your anti-China articles.

Now you're copying the exact same threads into the World Affairs section too. :rolleyes:
 
I guess it isn't enough that you choose to spam the China defence section with all your anti-China articles.

Now you're copying the exact same threads into the World Affairs section too. :rolleyes:

I actually would prefer if he only spam it in the world affairs section and leave the china section alone, if he can't be bothered to post in under the negative news thread.
 
Piracy upto an extent is good..because if people are not willing to pay for something then it means clearly that it isnt priced right..
 
Piracy upto an extent is good..because if people are not willing to pay for something then it means clearly that it isnt priced right..

But sometimes people don't want to pay at all, like free music :D
 
China is being anti world by allowing piracy to go on for such a long time that it's now even affecting it's own industries. And the reaction from the Chinese here is that it is anti - news. That is hilarious!

50 Billion dollars of piracy just from the US , and lord knows how much from other countries. :hang2:
 
Piracy upto an extent is good..because if people are not willing to pay for something then it means clearly that it isnt priced right..

IT software from Pakistan that Pakistanis worked on- ask them if they appreciate it being stolen and pirated ...

Guess what, some great musical talent comes from Pakistan. Let's just steal their music because we don't want to pay for it. that would be cool according to your theory...right?

do you now regret saying what you said?
 
I guess it isn't enough that you choose to spam the China defence section with all your anti-China articles.

Now you're copying the exact same threads into the World Affairs section too. :rolleyes:

Strawman argument

P.S.
Now you know how it feels! :D
 
China is being anti world by allowing piracy to go on for such a long time that it now affecting it's own industries. And the reaction from the Chinese here that it is anti - news . That is hilarious!

50 Billion dollars of piracy just from the US , and lord knows how much from other countries. :hang2:

Sure, China is suffering from piracy. Yet we still outrank your own India in pretty much every single economic indicator that exists.

Feeding your own people is more important than copyright infringement, though of course copyright infringement should be clamped down on as well.
 
Jay rehne de yaar. Let us focus on our own house. let the chinese deal with their issues.

This aint about their house. they are stealing in every fashion from all our houses. How many software packages come out of India? how many people do they employ? and what happens when China pirates it?
 
Piracy is a problem that the chinese government too would want a solution to. It's not like you have a bunch of people given a list of stuff to rip off and told to get on with it. If chinese business are ripping off foreign ones, they are ripping each other off even more.
 
This aint about their house. they are stealing in every fashion from all our houses. How many software packages come out of India? how many people do they employ? and what happens when China pirates it?

What happens when India pirates it?

The piracy rate in India is 70% compared to China at 80%. Not a big difference, so you can start by cleaning your own house first.
 
Sure, China is suffering from piracy. Yet we still outrank your own India in pretty much every single economic indicator that exists.

Feeding your own people is more important than copyright infringement, though of course copyright infringement should be clamped down on as well.

Your analogy is classic deflection. It's like saying sure we don't feed everyone here in India, but we will never murder 50,000 miners like china.

You basic analogy is to deflect to people being fed? BUT then too in 2003 you had 30 million people starving in China.
Link -->Association for Asia Research- 30 million people are starving in China

Since you guys block all such news and stats, its hard to know where it is today, but we can bet that not all 30 million are now fed .

Starving kids in China growing tired of US leftovers ( link --->) : http://www.gadling.com/2008/04/01/starving-kids-in-china-growing-tired-of-us-leftovers/
 
Your analogy is classic deflection. It's like saying sure we don't feed everyone here in India, but we will never murder 50,000 miners like china.

You basic analogy is to deflect to people being fed? BUT THEN too in 2003 you had 30 million people starving in China.

Association for Asia Research- 30 million people are starving in China

Since you guys block all such news and stats, its hard to know where it is today, but we can bet that not all 30 million are now fed .

Well done, you've achieved the higher moral ground. :cheers:

Why don't you compare that with the number in India and get a nice shock.
 
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