China's New Stealth Bomber: H-X / H-20

[terranMarine]

Chinese have our F-35 stealth tech, RAM coating technology and much more, how successful are they in implementing and incorporating that onto their jets?

It does not matter, the man already said it the US has defeated "stealth", Chinese-Russian stealth planes are DOA

 

[SR-91]

It does not matter, the man already said it the US has defeated "stealth", Chinese-Russian stealth planes are DOA

DOA has been established for Chinese aircrafts when they are going against The USA. I understood that, my question was, how successful were they in Incorporating that compared to How much of the tech they took?
@gambit

 

[slng]

what type of answer you expecting?

it is like asking 'i knew you stole the program code from your colleague, but how good are in programming to reverse-engineer it and reimplement it in your own way'

why dont we just focus on more data digged out from fellow chinese here

 

[gambit]

DOA has been established for Chinese aircrafts when they are going against The USA. I understood that, my question was, how successful were they in Incorporating that compared to How much of the tech they took?
@gambit

We do not know. Not unless everyone -- and I mean EVERYONE -- submit their 'stealth' jets for neutral third party testing.

I know how difficult it is to detect and track a clean F-16 at BVR distances. I have seen the radar scope myself of that situation. So we can use the clean F-16 as baseline. No ground clutter necessary. Just a clean F-16 at 10 angels.

That is not going to happen. Not even in our great grandchildren's lifetime.

The other way is thru real combat. You think the Chinese is going to allow the J-20 to play at Red Flag ?

 

[+4vsgorillas-Apebane]

We do not know. Not unless everyone -- and I mean EVERYONE -- submit their 'stealth' jets for neutral third party testing.

I know how difficult it is to detect and track a clean F-16 at BVR distances. I have seen the radar scope myself of that situation. So we can use the clean F-16 as baseline. No ground clutter necessary. Just a clean F-16 at 10 angels.

That is not going to happen. Not even in our great grandchildren's lifetime.

The other way is thru real combat. You think the Chinese is going to allow the J-20 to play at Red Flag ?

Ha, you probably have grand children already so great grand children wont even be that far off.

How time flies.

 

[fanna4paf2]

The Science and Technology Daily of China published an article titled Conjecture on China’s Strategic Bomber Performance on December 4, saying that China’s Air Force Commander Ma Xiaotian revealed that China is developing next-generation long-range bombers at an open day activity on September 1, confirming the “legendary” “H-20” bomber.

Recently, a China Central Television (CCTV) program also showed a suspected CG graph of China’s H-20 bomber, which further made a big splash among military fans.

When asked when China’s next-generation strategic bombers will make the debut, Rear Admiral Yin Zhuo, director of the PLA Navy’s Expert Consultation Committee, said that we should have some patience.

China has never developed such a large-tonnage and long-range strategic bomber before. The H-6 bomber in service is medium-sized but not a strategic bomber. Having the strategic bomber will become one of the symbols of China’s air force as a strategic service, said Yin Zhuo.

Yin Zhuo also held that the strategic bombers that China is developing will be surely on a par with B-2 of the US and have the stealth performance.

Yin introduced that the next-generation strategic bombers need a longer development cycle, usually more than ten years. China boasts some favorable conditions for developing strategic bombers: China has accumulated some experience from the development of J-20 and F -31 stealth fighters, so the material and design is not a big problem. China has developed Y-20, C-919 and other large aircraft, so the relevant technical reserves are useful for developing strategic bombers.

Cruise missiles, nuclear weapons and other weapons and equipment that will be carried by domestic strategic bombers are all in place, so it is just in time for China to develop strategic bombers, said Yin Zhuo. Leveraging the rich technical reserves, the development cycle may be shorter.

Speaking of whether China can develop supersonic stealth strategic bombers, military expert Li Li said that this is technically demanding indeed. Because if the emphasis is laid on the stealth performance, the aircraft’s aerodynamic configuration will be quite different from that of a supersonic bomber. It may be a more realistic solution to select from the stealth capability and supersonic penetration.

 

[fanna4paf2]

 

[Deino]

Hmmm ... ??

https://twitter.com/x/status/830349579979677696

中国の次世代爆撃機は高速開発段階に入られた模様、なお計画名は「新型遠距離作戦飛行機（新型远程作战飞机）」らしい。

It seems that the next generation bomber of China has entered the high-speed development stage, the plan name seems to be "a new type distance operation aircraft (new type remote control planes)".

Deino

 

[MarcsPakistan]

Maybe after 2030 .It will be conducting its first flight

 

[MultaniGuy]

Good development for China

 

[Brainsucker]

Hmmm ... ??

https://twitter.com/x/status/830349579979677696

Deino

A remote control? Is it a drone / UAV?

 

[Deino]

A remote control? Is it a drone / UAV?

I think this term "remote control" only appears in the English--translation of the original Japanese post. Since my Japanese is in fact as good as my Chinese I think that this term is only a result of the online translation.

Does anyone where the original rumour comes from ?

Deino

 

[randomradio]

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It looks so unhappy.

@jhungary A bomber isn't just about long range, it's about payload as well. And the long range allows multiple approach vectors to a target.

 

[52051]

A remote control? Is it a drone / UAV?

Well, the japanese words in the article simply says, word for word: "new type long range combat aircraft" (I know that because thats part of Japanese is exactly the same as Chinese), I dont know why the translator translate that into "new type remote control planes".

 

[jhungary]

It looks so unhappy.

@jhungary A bomber isn't just about long range, it's about payload as well. And the long range allows multiple approach vectors to a target.

wow, who resurrected a 3 years old thread. I don't actually remember what I said.

H-X is a stragetic bomber, its sole purpose is to reach out to the enemy you cannot touch with conventional way, Payload is not important to Strategic bomber, it was heavily armed to compensate long flight time, long flight time equal to less sortie.

China do not have enemy that stretch across the an ocean, the furthest one is Japan, which China can touch its asset with tradition Tactical bomber like Q-5 for JH-7, with the induction of other Multirole platform, such as J-10, J-15 and Su-30, basically they could have cover most tactical and strategic target. in their potential enemy such as Taiwan and Japan. They don't need a strategic bomber. Which will draw resource to escort and flying CAP and Ironhand mission where they don't need.