China's navy no longer so inferior to Japan's, experts say

[xesy]

Revival of the glorious USSR

"It would be without heart to not remember the glorious days of USSR, but without head to want to revive it" - Putin.

The Vietnamese genocide ..

US bombed our hospitals and schools saying we put up air defense positions in there. But we put up defense there to protect our wounded and sick, as well as children. Can't entirely blame either side. After all it was a muddy war.

 

[BoQ77]

At this moment, China is exercising to anti naval mines near Hainan and Gulf of Tonkin ...
That's what Vietnam mastered during Vietnam War for protecting sea route to Haiphong port.

If there is a war here, I would apply blockage of Hainan islands away from mainland ...

 

[xunzi]

The US can rapidly deploy immense firepower anywhere around the world within days. I'm not concerned about that.

Our biggest concern and I hope you can honestly in your heart, answer our question here even though you have no power to dictate the US's policymaking. That question is how far would you go to protect Japan? Think nuclear because I just don't see you can stop us short of nuke. In order to halt us, you will have to attack our mainland base and we will attack and try to sink your aircraft carriers and military bases near our vicinity, the so called A2/AD. What is the emotional response from American public when that happen? Are you American ready to launch nuke at us? In that case, are you prepare to have your family, brother and sister, died in the high horse to protect your friend, Japan? let remember, family blood is thicker than water!

 

[HariPrasad]

Give Japan Some brahmos to tilt the balance in favor of Japan.

 

[Nike]

I think it's a mistake from your part to assume the U.S will fully commit under any circumstance in an event of war. The U.S regard Japan as a vital friend and alley but they also believe China's importance surpasses Japan. This is also the belief of China to Russia, in which they regard Russia as a vital friend but believe U.S is way more important than Russia. And this phenomena will become more so by the day. I think if would also be prudent to consider the big geopolitical picture and that is the "normalization" of U.S foreign policy as many poli scientist would call it, because the U.S is now seemingly and "increasingly" reluctant to engage in international conflict, much less a war with China. One can even see the gap between Japan and U.S as to how to deal with China. Japan obviously wish the U.S to take a more hard line role, but the U.S response was actually quite moderate. For example, the Chinese AIDZ declaration
My opinion is, the Chinese strategy is to break the U.S-Japan alliance, and they have succeeded in some way as past events have shown.
As to your response to JMSDF's capability. Like I said, the JMSDF is very capable largely because the help from the U.S and Japan's own maritime tradition. But, Japan's military development have long been subjected to U.S influence. So Japan's military capability is grossly unbalanced, because the U.S see no need for Japan to possess overwhelming offensive capability. Good news for Japan is, the U.S has agreed to Japan's new policy in the defense sector, so that would help the Japanese. but it also signals, the U.S is starting to place more responsibility in terms of the security of the region in the hands of the Japanese and less on itself.

US has proven themselves in Kuwait cases, and she will do it again if we are talking a Nation as important as Japan for US

 

[terranMarine]

You flew a bomber WITHOUT a bomb inside and barely touch the edge of our ADIZ> LOL

An image is worth more than a thousand words

 

[xunzi]

Revival of the glorious USSR

Yes that is true. One of the factor is the determination to return Russia to USSR status. That can be accomplished if US's power decline either by defeat or totally worn out over war with China. Russia will take this opportunity to make move in Eastern Europe to united old Soviet proper. We obviously will offer our help in that regard in exchange for Russian help to fight USA/Japan in the far east. We only need Russian to supply oil and energy to us. The rest we can take care of.

 

[terranMarine]

Yes that is true. One of the factor is the determination to return Russia to USSR status. That can be accomplished if US's power decline either by defeat or totally worn out over war with China. Russia will take this opportunity to make move in Eastern Europe to united old Soviet proper. We obviously will offer our help in that regard in exchange for Russian help to fight USA/Japan in the far east. We only need Russian to supply oil and energy to us. The rest we can take care of.

Bingo, France/Germany/Japan have now opted for stronger sanctions against Russia. In case of a war between USA and China, Russia can take care of Ukraine and the other rebellious countries. France/UK/Germany can't do sh!t against Russia

 

[xunzi]

US has proven themselves in Kuwait cases, and she will do it again if we are talking a Nation as important as Japan for US

Very easy said than done. Fighting some Iraq power is a lot different than dealing with us. We are talking about what can make us stop. Anything short of nuke is inevitable. You know why? A defeat on PLA is the end of the CCP. The Qing fell mainly because of their defeat by the British.

 

[Nike]

Precisely. And the Japan Maritime Self Defense Force maintains a distinct and healthy qualitative and quantitative milieu in regards to key strategic vessels that would ensure maritime domination in the event of a conflict scenario.





The JMSDF's ASW force negates any sub threat around our Maritime domain. This allows the entire Surface Fleet to address and focus on hostile surface vessels. Which i have already addressed in my prior posts, and thus i must emphasize the issue of fleet screen and massing ships of the line. The geographic proximity of JMSDF's 4 escort fleets allows a much rapid and cohesive negotiation , whereas the enemy must take time to form and combine their fleets, which will, be engaged upon by the Kaijo Jeitai Rengo Kantai. The massing of the enemy's fleet assets will be limited as well because it will not leave its southern corridor unguarded. In the event of assymetric strategies that will unfold in that geographic proximity.



I believe that you do not fully comprehend the capability and deployment of Japan's Anti Ballistic Missile Strategem. As well, you have not taken into consideration the presence of the United States' 7th Fleet, and its associated 2-3 Carrier Battle Groups that patrols adjacent areas. The deployment of Cruisers and notable destroyers of the 7th Fleet collaborate with key vessels of the Kaijo Jeita Rengo Kantai on fleet screen duties, ASW duties, Anti-Ballistic Capability, as well as on strike capabilities.

The United States' Foreign Policy in Asia-Pacific is centered on Japan -- the greatest ally in the Asia-Pacific Region. In the event of initiation of hostilities, the mutual defense pact will be mobilized, and the combined force of the JMSDF and the USN would , for lack of a better word, not only gut the enemy's surface fleet, but would prevent the enemy's merchant fleet and assymetric sub force from negotiating into a position that would threaten logistical, command and support resources.

Why are you not taking into account the sleeping cangaroo into equation, US likely will mobilize RAN and her allies to disrupt Southern front of Chinese South fleets. So far they've possesses the best Navy in southern hemisphere

 

[xunzi]

Bingo, France/Germany/Japan have now opted for stronger sanctions against Russia. In case of a war between USA and China, Russia can take care of Ukraine and the other rebellious countries. France/UK/Germany can't do sh!t against Russia

Russia can conquer Europe if US force is divert to the Far East. First, Russia will have to united Eastern Europe. That can only be accomplished if the US's attention shift to fight China. We will probably be defeat but the US will lose both their arms and walking home with one leg.

 

[Nike]

Very easy said than done. Fighting some Iraq power is a lot different than dealing with us. We are talking about what can make us stop. Anything short of nuke is inevitable. You know why? A defeat on PLA is the end of the CCP. The Qing fell mainly because of their defeat by the British.

Nuke this nuke that, you lot always talking about nuke. Although a lot of government leaders will constraint themselves into limited conventional war. Pakistan and India is the best examples, both of them possesses Nuclear warhead, yet both of them limited themselves into saber rattling conventional war. Me thing, any future Japan-China conflict will be limited in some limited yet decisive Naval conflict.

 

[xunzi]

I really hate to say this but India plays a very big role in this hypothetical WWIII. India is the x-factor in the West vs East's WWIII. If India sides with the East, then Muslim's Sunni will join the West and Shia will join the East. If India sides with the West, then Sunni will join the East and Shia will join the West. If India stays neutral, then she will end up with Russia as the lone superpower post-WWIII.

 

[terranMarine]

Russia can conquer Europe if US force is divert to the Far East. First, Russia will have to united Eastern Europe. That can only be accomplished if the US's attention shift to fight China. We will probably be defeat but the US will lose both their arms and walking home with one leg.

Exacty, if China were to go down it will do as much damage to the US as possible and in the process taking Japan with us. America will suffer so much it cannot intervene in Eastern EU as you have mentioned their forces are divided and sustained heavy casualties/fatalities. Their homeland is in ruin as well, definitely can't pick a fight with our nuclear goliath buddy

 

[BoQ77]

Russia can conquer Europe if US force is divert to the Far East. First, Russia will have to united Eastern Europe. That can only be accomplished if the US's attention shift to fight China. We will probably be defeat but the US will lose both their arms and walking home with one leg.

Russia recently expressed that the alliance between China and Russia would never built.
While, USA keep stating they will protect even Japanese Senkaku ...