China's Mach 6 air-to-air missile (VLRAAM) at 200 miles successful | Popular Science

[WarFariX]

why are you guys forgetting that this missile is too heavy for any thunder hardpoint
@Sulman Badshah could you explain my sentence futher sir plz

 

[Ultima Thule]

these pics look photoshoped

but those pics are real go to J-20 thread

 

[Basel]

CHINA IS TESTING A NEW LONG-RANGE, AIR-TO-AIR MISSILE THAT COULD THWART U.S. PLANS FOR AIR WARFARE | Popular Science

"In November 2016, a Chinese J-16 strike fighter test-fired a gigantic hypersonic missile, successfully destroying the target drone at a very long range.
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Reports are that the size would put into the category of a very long range air to air missile (VLRAAM) with ranges exceeding 300 km (roughly 186 miles), likely max out between 250 and 310 miles.
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This is a big deal: this missile would easily outrange any American (or other NATO) air-to-air missile. Additionally, the VLRAAM's powerful rocket engine will push it to Mach 6 speeds, which will increase the no escape zone (NEZ), that is the area where a target cannot outrun the missile, against even supersonic targets like stealth fighters.
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The new, larger missile's added value is not just in range. Another key feature: its large active electronically scanned (AESA) radar, which is used in the terminal phase of flight to lock onto the target. The AESA radar's large size—about 300-400% larger than that of most long range air-to-air missiles—and digital adaptability makes it highly effective against distant and stealthy targets, and resilient against electronic countermeasures like jamming and spoofing.

The VLRAAM's backup sensor is a infrared/electro-optical seeker that can identify and hone in on high-value targets like aerial tankers and airborne early warning and control (AEW&C) radar aircraft. The VLRAAM also uses lateral thrusters built into the rear for improving its terminal phase maneuverability when engaging agile targets like fighters."

That missile is AWACS killer which means very potent threat against Indian AWACS, pushing them deep inside. It is also equal of K-100 missile which India seeks from Russia to take out PAF AWACS.

 

[帅的一匹]

That missile is AWACS killer which means very potent threat against Indian AWACS, pushing them deep inside. It is also equal of K-100 missile which India seeks from Russia to take out PAF AWACS.

PAF need a platform to carry this VLRAAM, maybe JF17 can carry one?

 

[Basel]

CHINA IS TESTING A NEW LONG-RANGE, AIR-TO-AIR MISSILE THAT COULD THWART U.S. PLANS FOR AIR WARFARE | Popular Science

"In November 2016, a Chinese J-16 strike fighter test-fired a gigantic hypersonic missile, successfully destroying the target drone at a very long range.
...
Reports are that the size would put into the category of a very long range air to air missile (VLRAAM) with ranges exceeding 300 km (roughly 186 miles), likely max out between 250 and 310 miles.
...
This is a big deal: this missile would easily outrange any American (or other NATO) air-to-air missile. Additionally, the VLRAAM's powerful rocket engine will push it to Mach 6 speeds, which will increase the no escape zone (NEZ), that is the area where a target cannot outrun the missile, against even supersonic targets like stealth fighters.
...
The new, larger missile's added value is not just in range. Another key feature: its large active electronically scanned (AESA) radar, which is used in the terminal phase of flight to lock onto the target. The AESA radar's large size—about 300-400% larger than that of most long range air-to-air missiles—and digital adaptability makes it highly effective against distant and stealthy targets, and resilient against electronic countermeasures like jamming and spoofing.

The VLRAAM's backup sensor is a infrared/electro-optical seeker that can identify and hone in on high-value targets like aerial tankers and airborne early warning and control (AEW&C) radar aircraft. The VLRAAM also uses lateral thrusters built into the rear for improving its terminal phase maneuverability when engaging agile targets like fighters."

That missile is AWACS killer which means very potent threat against Indian AWACS, pushing them deep inside. It is also equal of K-100 missile which India seeks from Russia to take out PAF AWACS.

PAF need a platform to carry this VLRAAM, maybe JF17 can carry one?

For stop gap measure M3/5 can be used with data link.

 

[cirr]

There could be a smaller version(4m in length and 203mm in diameter) of the missile with variable thrust solid rocket engine for an effective range of 420km when attacking a target escaping at 1.2M and even longer when attacking slower-moving targets such as AWACS and tankers.

 

[MULUBJA]

Air Power Australia states the Chinese J-11B is indigenous (except for the airframe)

PLA-AF and PLA-N Flanker Variants | Air Power Australia

"While the first indigenous variant, the J-11B, uses the basic Su-27SK Flanker B airframe, it was mostly unique systems, many different from the Russian systems in the Su-27SK."

Air power Australia says that chinese Su 30 is much inferior to Indian su 30 MKI. What say?

 

[IblinI]

Air power Australia says that chinese Su 30 is much inferior to Indian su 30 MKI. What say?

On topic,this is not a VS thread.

 

[Ultima Thule]

For stop gap measure M3/5 can be used with data link.

not possible sir M3/5 can't guide it with a radar range of just 55 Km

 

[Basel]

not possible sir M3/5 can't guide it with a radar range of just 55 Km

Can be done via data link in NCW environment.

 

[Penguin]

The US Navy is working on its Naval Integrated Fire Control-Counter Air concept (NIFC-CA) – a scheme designed to tie together data from the ships and aircraft in a carrier strike group to create a network of sensors and shooters – a proverbial kill web. Under this concept, targeting data collected from a Northrop Grumman E-2D Advanced Hawkeye can be beamed to a guided missile cruiser or destroyer in the strike group. That ship could then launch an SM-6 at the target only using the E-2s track and not its own radar. This could possibly give the AEWC platform a self-defence capability against incoming long range missiles, while tactical aircraft engage the shooters.

 

[Martian2]

The US Navy is working on its Naval Integrated Fire Control-Counter Air concept (NIFC-CA) – a scheme designed to tie together data from the ships and aircraft in a carrier strike group to create a network of sensors and shooters – a proverbial kill web. Under this concept, targeting data collected from a Northrop Grumman E-2D Advanced Hawkeye can be beamed to a guided missile cruiser or destroyer in the strike group. That ship could then launch an SM-6 at the target only using the E-2s track and not its own radar. This could possibly give the AEWC platform a self-defence capability against incoming long range missiles, while tactical aircraft engage the shooters.

US will probably develop its own Mach 6 air-to-air missile. SM-6 is useless for defense against VLRAAM.

The American SM-6 is probably useless against the Chinese VLRAAM.

The Chinese VLRAAM has a terminal velocity of Mach 6.
The SM-6 has a top speed of Mach 3.5.
As the Chinese VLRAAM accelerates downward towards the target with the help of gravity, the much slower SM-6 cannot match its speed.

The Chinese VLRAAM is fired by a fighter jet against another fighter jet. Since the SM-6 is carried on a very slow boat, the SM-6 will not be available at the location of a jet fighter engagement.

The Chinese VLRAAM has a range of 250-300 miles. The SM-6 has an official range of 150 miles. Since an SM-6 has half the range of a Chinese VLRAAM, the ship carrying the SM-6 would be well within the range of Chinese supersonic anti-ship missiles (and anti-ballistic missiles).

In conclusion, the American SM-6 is too slow and has too short a range against a maneuverable Chinese Mach 6 hypersonic missile. The SM-6 is not a viable defensive weapon. More likely, the US will need to develop its own Mach 6 air-to-air missile with very-long-range (VLRAAM) for jet fighter defense.

 

[帅的一匹]

How many countries in this world has got March 6 BVRAAM with 300 miles range? This is fatal I will call it.

 

[Tiger Awan]

The US Navy is working on its Naval Integrated Fire Control-Counter Air concept (NIFC-CA) – a scheme designed to tie together data from the ships and aircraft in a carrier strike group to create a network of sensors and shooters – a proverbial kill web. Under this concept, targeting data collected from a Northrop Grumman E-2D Advanced Hawkeye can be beamed to a guided missile cruiser or destroyer in the strike group. That ship could then launch an SM-6 at the target only using the E-2s track and not its own radar. This could possibly give the AEWC platform a self-defence capability against incoming long range missiles, while tactical aircraft engage the shooters.

Well they recently tested SM-6. Difference : they used F-35. What you mentioned may be oeperational in very near future

http://www.thefiscaltimes.com/2016/11/25/F-35-Just-Aced-Big-Test-and-Became-Much-More-Dangerous

 

[Ultima Thule]

How many countries in this world has got March 6 BVRAAM with 300 miles range? This is fatal I will call it.

its a anti AWACS and ISR missile, not intended to intercept fighter jets
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K-100_(missile)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R-37_(missile)