China's economy is in bad shape and could stay that way for a while

[Hephaestus]

He now expects Chinese GDP to grow by just 3% this year, missing Beijing's official target of 5.5% by a wide margin

For the economy, the size of China's 3% might not be so bad. They have set so high their growth and reached $19.91 trillion that 3% looks bad. It's not bad as per me.

 

[Lava820]

I m talking China grew more than one India last year, as for this year, we'll still wait and see. The point is India's economy is just a small faction of China, two countries are not in the same league by any standard, so your foolhardy comparison is extremely funny.

China contributed 95.8 per cent to international shipments of iPhones in 2021 and 98.2 per cent in 2020. However, according to Counterpoint Research, China's contribution is expected to drop to 93.5 per cent this year whereas Apple's India plants are expected to contribute 7 per cent of the company's global shipments of iPhones this year

Tech Companies Slowly Shift Production Away From China (Published 2022)

Worried about geopolitical tensions and stung by pandemic shutdowns, Google, Apple and others are moving some work to nearby countries.

www.nytimes.com

They have set so high their growth and reached $19.91 trillion that 3% looks bad. It's not bad as per me.

They were projected to reach this figure but due to Xi's stupid policies, they're not expected to reach this figure anytime soon

 

[S10]

I support zero covid policy. We are in a WORLD wide recession and pandemic. All problems China has, other countries also have them. If other countries perform worse than China, it's also a win for China. I know US has a better fertility rate. But the white race fertility rate is not better than China's

China's economic problems are entirely self-inflicted by zero COVID policy, while US and India are experiencing strong rebound. Europe would also experience rebound if not for the war in Ukraine. With the current fertility rate in China, the population will effectively drop by half in 50 years with all the social problems that comes with it.

Xi has taken China backwards, not forward. You can cite all the fancy weapons in recent years. They're useless without a strong economy to support it.

 

[Chat SAMOSA]

As long as CCP is running the media it is impossible for Chinese economy to falter, Chinese virus to spread, Chinese drought to parch, Chinese floods to be wet, Chinese quakes to tremor ...

Who are these rascals sending out unauthorized lockdown videos, bank run videos, Xinjiang videos, ghost city videos .... just stop all this unauthorized stuff.

 

[beijingwalker]

As long as CCP is running the media it is impossible for Chinese economy to falter, Chinese virus to spread, Chinese drought to parch, Chinese floods to be wet, Chinese quakes to tremor ...

Who are these rascals sending out unauthorized lockdown videos, bank run videos, Xinjiang videos, ghost city videos .... just stop all this unauthorized stuff.

No one can match yours in this world

 

[Mista]

All problems China has, other countries also have them. If other countries perform worse than China, it's also a win for China.

Like what? China's largest and most unsolvable problem is its demographics. China is still not a fully developed country yet but among major economies only South Korea has a lower TFR. China's TFR is still on a downward trend as it continues to develop.

China’s total fertility rate (births per woman) was 2.6 in the late 1980s – well above the 2.1 needed to replace deaths. It has been between 1.6 and 1.7 since 1994, and slipped to 1.3 in 2020 and just 1.15 in 2021.
By way of comparison, in Australia and the United States the total fertility rate is 1.6 births per woman. In ageing Japan it is 1.3.

China’s working-age population peaked in 2014 and is projected to shrink to less than one third of that peak by 2100.

China’s elderly population (aged 65 and above) is expected to continue to climb for most of that time, passing China’s working-age population near 2080.

This means that while there are currently 100 working-age people available to support every 20 elderly people, by 2100, 100 working-age Chinese will have to support as many as 120 elderly Chinese.

China’s population is about to shrink for the first time since the great famine struck 60 years ago. Here’s what it means for the world

For the first time in 60 years, China's population is on track to decline. Sustained decreases will have an impact beyond just China's borders.

www.weforum.org

China's working-age population numbers will start falling visibly in the next decade, and towards the end of the century there will be more elderly people than working-age people.

I know US has a better fertility rate. But the white race fertility rate is not better than China's

Err... no?

Total Fertility Rates by Race and Ethnicity

The highest total fertility rate (TFR) was among Hispanics, at 1.88. But this demographic group also experienced a rapid decline, down 20 percent, from 2.35 in 2010. This drop is particularly significant since the Hispanic TFR was well above the replacement rate in 2010, and was seen as one way to keep the country from more rapid aging and population decline.

The other three major races and ethnicities have total fertility rates below replacement. The African-American Non-Hispanic total fertility rate dropped to 1.71, down 10 percent from the 2010 rate.

Among White-Non Hispanics, the 2020 total fertility rate was 1.55, down 13% from the 2010 rate of 1.79.

US Total Fertility Rates: Toward Europe? | Newgeography.com

www.newgeography.com

1.55 is >30% higher than 1.15.

 

[Chat SAMOSA]

No one can match yours in this world

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Difference is Indians can call it fake and won't get jailed for it. Try it with CCP inside China - they'll trim your family tree

 

[beijingwalker]

Difference is Indians can call it fake and won't get jailed for it. Try it with CCP inside China - they'll trim your family tree

They got killed

 

[Bilal9]

He tried and failed, China grows more than one India in GDP every year.

UK slips behind India to become the world's sixth biggest economy

No you didn’t, you added $1.4 tn. Using 2020 figures of WB and 2021 figures of CCP to tell you’ve added $3.2 tn in 1 year won’t work here. Since when ~10 trillion yuan became $3 trillion :lol:? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(nominal) Yes, China grew from $14.7...

defence.pk

India's economic numbers are cooked beyond belief. Everyone knows this.

I mean even today,

• More than half of their people do their business in the open.
• Their GDP per capita nominal is worse than that of Bangladesh.
• Their Hunger level is far worse than either Pakistan or Bangladesh

Just Google it.

Difference is Indians can call it fake and won't get jailed for it. Try it with CCP inside China - they'll trim your family tree

In anglophone countries, trimming a tree means "decorating a (Christmas) tree".

 

[Chat SAMOSA]

They got killed
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See you proved my point ! In India we know it happened. In CCP land nobody knows

 

[beijingwalker]

See you proved my point ! In India we know it happened. In CCP land nobody knows

Social media is the main channel now and hiding news is almost impossible, besides, it's well Known that China is one of the safest countries in the world, foreign expats don't say the same about India.

 

[Bilal9]

India on the cusp of a capex boom: Morgan Stanley

Morgan Stanley highlighted that improved private corporate balance sheets, rising capacity utilization and various government policy initiatives is leading to a revival in India’s capex cycle., Economy News, Times Now

www.google.com

This is all you hear from Godi Media,

1) On the cusp of a boom....

2) Grand MOU signed for FDI.....

3) Momentous news of trillion dollar investments from (insert name of first world country)......

Six months later, no follow up and never heard from source again....unlike China, where real markets exist and factories get built.

While in down-in-the-dumps-India, nothing materializes.

Western investors know they can make money in China, unlike in India, where no one buys crap, except chintzy cheap low grade garbage products.... and that too for local consumption.

Indians can't even make their own cellphones, all parts and sub-assemblies for cellphones come from China, and not necessarily the best China produces.

 

[Black Tornado]

India's economic numbers are cooked beyond belief. Everyone knows this.

I mean even today,

• More than half of their people do their business in the open.
• Their GDP per capita nominal is worse than that of Bangladesh.
• Their Hunger level is far worse than either Pakistan or Bangladesh

Just Google it.



In anglophone countries, trimming a tree means "decorating a (Christmas) tree".

Calm down Bilol, looking at your country its very much visible how rich you are. Beyond sweatshops and BBS GDP fudging, you’re nothing.

 

[beijingwalker]

See the futility of CCP news and stats ? That's the only data anyone can hv so whether foreign diplomats or Bloomberg- anything about China is inside quotes for nonbelievability.

You don't even have real rule of law. See how Jack Ma was disappeared for a year, Baba crushed in the market, ANT killed all because he said one wrong thing! That being the fate of the most successful entrepreneurs, what chance do anyone else have in speaking the truth ? And that's not an isolated case. The Wuhan researcher that was brutalized and killed for blurring the truth ....

Jack Ma was made disappear only by western media, but if China's system is really that bad, why everyone in the west talks about China's rise ? and why China registered fastest growth in the human history? 30 years ago India's GDP was even bigger than China's, why now is only a fraction of her?

 

[Lava820]

This is all you hear from Godi Media,

1) On the cusp of a boom....

2) Grand MOU signed for FDI.....

3) Momentous news of trillion dollar investments from (insert name of first world country)......

Six months later, no follow up and never heard from source again....unlike China, where real markets exist and factories get built.

While in down-in-the-dumps-India, nothing materializes.

Western investors know they can make money in China, unlike in India, where no one buys crap, except chintzy cheap low grade garbage products.... and that too for local consumption.

Indians can't even make their own cellphones, all parts and sub-assemblies for cellphones come from China, and not necessarily the best China produces.

@Black Tornado @VkdIndian @LakeHawk180 @SoulSpokesman @Raj-Hindustani @INDIAPOSITIVE

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Reality in Bhakt-land, a meal for twenty people,
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