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America's Hypocrisy With Dictators @PolicyMic | Paul Oliver
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Riot police have fired tear gas to disperse protesters in Xinjiang, China, two days after ethnic unrest left 156 dead and more than 1,000 wounded.
Following China's bloodiest ethnic violence in decades, the city of Urumqi is still a battle zone.
Despite the presence of thousands of soldiers and police, the government appears unable to keep a lid on tensions between Chinese residents and members of the Uighur Muslim ethnic group.
Earlier, thousands of Chinese protestors marched through the city centre armed with meat cleavers, bricks, chains and bats.
Singing the national anthem and chanting "we want revenge", they attempted to attack businesses owned by members of the Uighur ethnic group and at one point chased a Uighur boy up a tree.
Chinese police responded with tear gas. They have also imposed a 9pm curfew aimed - according to the region's Communist Party Secretary - at "avoiding further chaos."
Uighurs began rioting on Sunday, angered over reports two men belonging to the eight-million strong ethnic minority were killed during a brawl with Chinese co-workers in the southern city of Guangdong.
Initially peaceful, the protests soon changed tack as Uighurs overturned police cars and buses.
Uighur's protest to police
They also indiscriminately attacked local Chinese residents, killing 156.
Also today, around 300 Uighurs - predominantly women with covered heads - took to the streets of Urumqi demanding police release the nearly 1,500 Uighurs believe to have been detained after the violence.
"Give us back our men" they chanted before soldiers armed with truncheons broke up the peaceful demonstration.
State television has been broadcasting pictures showing injured Chinese being treated in an Urumqi hospital ward.
According to a report on Chinese Central Television, most suffered wounds to their heads and chests after being set upon by Uighurs.
Human rights groups have condemned the government response, and the US government has called on both sides to "exercise restraint".
Urumqi is the capital of the Xinjiang region, parts of which are closer to Baghdad than Beijing.
The Uighurs have long chafed under Chinese rule, and the area has witnessed sporadic violence.
Over the last two decades hundreds of thousands of Chinese migrants from the East of the country have flooded into the far West area seeking economic opportunity.
It seems to have worsened Uighur disaffection with Chinese rule.
Following the September 11th attacks, Beijing has sought to link Uighur separatism and violence to Al Qaeda.
However, most outside observers believe that links - if they exist - are tenuous.
http://news.sky.com/home/world-news/article/15330650
Following China's bloodiest ethnic violence in decades, the city of Urumqi is still a battle zone.
Despite the presence of thousands of soldiers and police, the government appears unable to keep a lid on tensions between Chinese residents and members of the Uighur Muslim ethnic group.
Earlier, thousands of Chinese protestors marched through the city centre armed with meat cleavers, bricks, chains and bats.
Singing the national anthem and chanting "we want revenge", they attempted to attack businesses owned by members of the Uighur ethnic group and at one point chased a Uighur boy up a tree.
Chinese police responded with tear gas. They have also imposed a 9pm curfew aimed - according to the region's Communist Party Secretary - at "avoiding further chaos."
Uighurs began rioting on Sunday, angered over reports two men belonging to the eight-million strong ethnic minority were killed during a brawl with Chinese co-workers in the southern city of Guangdong.
Initially peaceful, the protests soon changed tack as Uighurs overturned police cars and buses.
Uighur's protest to police
They also indiscriminately attacked local Chinese residents, killing 156.
Also today, around 300 Uighurs - predominantly women with covered heads - took to the streets of Urumqi demanding police release the nearly 1,500 Uighurs believe to have been detained after the violence.
"Give us back our men" they chanted before soldiers armed with truncheons broke up the peaceful demonstration.
State television has been broadcasting pictures showing injured Chinese being treated in an Urumqi hospital ward.
According to a report on Chinese Central Television, most suffered wounds to their heads and chests after being set upon by Uighurs.
Human rights groups have condemned the government response, and the US government has called on both sides to "exercise restraint".
Urumqi is the capital of the Xinjiang region, parts of which are closer to Baghdad than Beijing.
The Uighurs have long chafed under Chinese rule, and the area has witnessed sporadic violence.
Over the last two decades hundreds of thousands of Chinese migrants from the East of the country have flooded into the far West area seeking economic opportunity.
It seems to have worsened Uighur disaffection with Chinese rule.
Following the September 11th attacks, Beijing has sought to link Uighur separatism and violence to Al Qaeda.
However, most outside observers believe that links - if they exist - are tenuous.
http://news.sky.com/home/world-news/article/15330650
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your goverment sure will wipe you out if you don't like it. He was just killing those rebellionist. You don't kill those Maoist in India? Look what happen in Lybia now, polygamy marriage practice is coming back. Those insurgent told the media they fight because high employment rate and inbalance regional economic development. People in Lybia now don't even have job to do and without salary to make a living.
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India got a chance to backstab its neighbour and did it as usual. More mistrust on the part of India in future. Knowing that no Asian country sided against SL will make them look like a white man pawn in future affairs of India. Self appointed moral policing by White man dictation.
From India to Libya: democracy or hypocrisy?
India an emerging economic and political power nation, a nuclear power, ally of Israel and the largest democracy in the world sits at the edge of the high table of world powers. Yet, as Arundhati Roy writes in Septembers New Internationalist magazine, thousands have been tortured and killed in nightmarish interrogation centres and army camps; others charged with sedition. Corruption is a way of life and runs through all social groups and sectors of the country (and like corruption anywhere, we are all invariably complicit).
The actions by the Indian government against its own people force us to think carefully about what we mean by democracy, dictators and other grand political narratives. Take, for instance, the anti-Qadafi narrative, which is presented in binary political terms of good and evil, making it impossible to offer any critical analysis without being labelled pro-Qadafi. The irony is that prior to last December, three North African dictators who have since been buried under the mass of people power were all on deeply intimate terms with the very powers that now cheer their demise.
We now learn that Britain and the US, while condemning Qadafis record of torture, had no qualms about engaging in rendition to Libya a US terror suspect knowingly tortured by the dictator. Such hypocrisy is mind-boggling. No amount of rhetoric from the West or the UN that this was a humanitarian intervention can now be taken seriously. In the words of British human rights lawyer Gareth Pearce: we put our noses in the trough and fed from it.
Gaddafi by VectorPortal
The notion of democracy is seldom queried. But in what way does India really differ from Libya when it comes to repression, torture and imprisonment of political dissenters? Dictators like Qadafi should not be defended, but the simplistic good versus evil uncritical narratives presented to us by large sections of the media should surely be questioned. NATO forces have bombed Libya for the past six months yet no-one asks how many civilians they have killed. Nor is it mentioned that the bombing has led to the humanitarian crisis that Libyans now face. Black Africans accused of being Qadafi mercenaries have been detained, lynched and killed despite any real evidence for all but a handful: how easy it is to target vulnerable migrant workers. Yet what are those ex-SAS and private armies recruited by rebel forces and NATO, if not mercenaries?
The Libyan rebels have been taken at face value because they have overthrown a dictator, but we are now beginning to know who many of them are and its not a pretty picture. And something which gives me a great sense of foreboding is the fact that Libyas new masters, the National Transitional Council, have reportedly thanked Sudan (and its own dictator) for its support.
The West has always seen Qadafi as a demon, even when they chose to add him to their best friend list. Yet we fail to question the rebels, even though it is more than likely they too have committed atrocities and continue to do so.
I am happy to see the end of a delusional megalomaniac who far outlived his time. But in doing so is it necessary to also deny the positive things 80 per cent literacy, free and decent healthcare provision, education and housing that he achieved? Is it not possible to acknowledge these as well as the terrible things he did? If not, then how does India remain the darling of democracy despite the torture and repression of millions of Indians?
Surely we should be able to question the inconsistencies and double standards in the policing of states, which results in one state being considered worthy and another as ripe for regime change. As Jon Snow recently tweeted: Always be wary of regime change that is almost universally welcomed by Western governments.
From India to Libya: democracy or hypocrisy? -- New Internationalist
India an emerging economic and political power nation, a nuclear power, ally of Israel and the largest democracy in the world sits at the edge of the high table of world powers. Yet, as Arundhati Roy writes in Septembers New Internationalist magazine, thousands have been tortured and killed in nightmarish interrogation centres and army camps; others charged with sedition. Corruption is a way of life and runs through all social groups and sectors of the country (and like corruption anywhere, we are all invariably complicit).
The actions by the Indian government against its own people force us to think carefully about what we mean by democracy, dictators and other grand political narratives. Take, for instance, the anti-Qadafi narrative, which is presented in binary political terms of good and evil, making it impossible to offer any critical analysis without being labelled pro-Qadafi. The irony is that prior to last December, three North African dictators who have since been buried under the mass of people power were all on deeply intimate terms with the very powers that now cheer their demise.
We now learn that Britain and the US, while condemning Qadafis record of torture, had no qualms about engaging in rendition to Libya a US terror suspect knowingly tortured by the dictator. Such hypocrisy is mind-boggling. No amount of rhetoric from the West or the UN that this was a humanitarian intervention can now be taken seriously. In the words of British human rights lawyer Gareth Pearce: we put our noses in the trough and fed from it.
Gaddafi by VectorPortal
The notion of democracy is seldom queried. But in what way does India really differ from Libya when it comes to repression, torture and imprisonment of political dissenters? Dictators like Qadafi should not be defended, but the simplistic good versus evil uncritical narratives presented to us by large sections of the media should surely be questioned. NATO forces have bombed Libya for the past six months yet no-one asks how many civilians they have killed. Nor is it mentioned that the bombing has led to the humanitarian crisis that Libyans now face. Black Africans accused of being Qadafi mercenaries have been detained, lynched and killed despite any real evidence for all but a handful: how easy it is to target vulnerable migrant workers. Yet what are those ex-SAS and private armies recruited by rebel forces and NATO, if not mercenaries?
The Libyan rebels have been taken at face value because they have overthrown a dictator, but we are now beginning to know who many of them are and its not a pretty picture. And something which gives me a great sense of foreboding is the fact that Libyas new masters, the National Transitional Council, have reportedly thanked Sudan (and its own dictator) for its support.
The West has always seen Qadafi as a demon, even when they chose to add him to their best friend list. Yet we fail to question the rebels, even though it is more than likely they too have committed atrocities and continue to do so.
I am happy to see the end of a delusional megalomaniac who far outlived his time. But in doing so is it necessary to also deny the positive things 80 per cent literacy, free and decent healthcare provision, education and housing that he achieved? Is it not possible to acknowledge these as well as the terrible things he did? If not, then how does India remain the darling of democracy despite the torture and repression of millions of Indians?
Surely we should be able to question the inconsistencies and double standards in the policing of states, which results in one state being considered worthy and another as ripe for regime change. As Jon Snow recently tweeted: Always be wary of regime change that is almost universally welcomed by Western governments.
From India to Libya: democracy or hypocrisy? -- New Internationalist
That is incredible but sadly true,. They should do what china do first. Feed people and then buy toys or make toys lol
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To the fellow Indian who started this thread:
1.It's none of our business with what countries China has relations.Interests matter.
2.India is also friends with almost all of countries you mentioned.
3.India is one of U.S closest allies.How is U.S any better than these countries: nearly 500,000 dead in Iraq,100,000 dead in Afghanistan and thousands more who has been killed in U.S started wars after world war II?
4.Who are you to say which leader is good and which is not?You mentioned Iran's leader at last,but in my view he is much more better than your leader.It depends on perspective.
5.With all respect i have for Indian members,but you need to grow up and leave this blind hate of China behind.
6.I'm not a great fan of China,but i don't dislike them either and one thing i like about them is that they don't care about what is being told about them,they ignore them all and care for their own development and advancement,not blaming their neighbors.
7.I hope you got the point here.
1.It's none of our business with what countries China has relations.Interests matter.
2.India is also friends with almost all of countries you mentioned.
3.India is one of U.S closest allies.How is U.S any better than these countries: nearly 500,000 dead in Iraq,100,000 dead in Afghanistan and thousands more who has been killed in U.S started wars after world war II?
4.Who are you to say which leader is good and which is not?You mentioned Iran's leader at last,but in my view he is much more better than your leader.It depends on perspective.
5.With all respect i have for Indian members,but you need to grow up and leave this blind hate of China behind.
6.I'm not a great fan of China,but i don't dislike them either and one thing i like about them is that they don't care about what is being told about them,they ignore them all and care for their own development and advancement,not blaming their neighbors.
7.I hope you got the point here.
Oh dear how incredibly sad
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india is having oil and wheat trades with Iran NOW!
india is seeking stronger diplomatic relationship with Myanmar NOW!
haha india!
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I dont blame op for started this self humilating thread for both india and america after all international politics is not a game for spineless country such as india to play period.
Yes and recently he was fighting for gays and put gayboy thread on pdf. He should continue his attention son gays rather than china
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This is hate thread, why make such things?
you know this will end up in people getting banned.
you know this will end up in people getting banned.
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and you know how Pakistan was emerged? White men never killed our soldiers on our land . Now you decide who is the slave for white master US ?
Iranian brothers should notice that Indians put them on OP
Oh yes he came to talk about human rights in India I believe
And you forgot the most important ones:
India was the best friend of his man to the point that Saddam traveled to India for declaring his support against Pakistan.
Oh yes he came to talk about human rights in India I believe
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