China turns table on Pakistan, accuses it of training terrorists

[Contrarian]

China turns table on Pakistan, accuses it of training terrorists


BEIJING: China on Thursday took the wind out of the Pakistani sails by saying that East Turkistan terrorists operating on its soil were actually trained in special camps in neighbouring Pakistan.

The revelations came within hours of Pakistan Prime Minister Shaukat Aziz leaving Beijing after raising the Kashmir issue and related dispute with India. Aziz had also successfully persuaded the Chinese leaders to offer a variety of economic goodies to Islamabad after promising to rein in the terrorists operating along the Sino-Pakistan border.

This is the first time that Beijing has taken on its long-standing friend and partner in fighting terrorism with the charge that Pakistani soil was actually being used for the purpose of training anti-China separatists in the border
province of Xinjiang.

India's lobbying with China on the issue of Pakistani involvement in terrorism and Shaukar Aziz's attempt to overuse the "separatism card" to extract economic benefits may have prompted the government to expose
Pakistan's counter-terrorism credentials, sources said.

The revelations are part of the government's case against Huseyin Celil, a China-born Uygur-Canadian, who was sentenced to life imprisonment by a court in Urumqi, the capital of Xinjiang. The court charged him of "taking part in terrorist activities and plotting to split the country".

The 37-year old Celil has been accused of recruiting several people for East Turkistan Liberation Organisation and sending them to terrorist training camps on the Pamir plateau in Pakistan. Court papers indicate that Celil worked as a senior instructor in neighbouring Kyrgyzstan bases of Etlo, which is a separatist group actively functioning in the Muslim dominated province of Xinjiang since 1997. Etlo's objective is to secure an independent East Turkistan by putting together parts of China, Kyrgyzstan and other parts of the former Soviet Union.

Official sources accused Celil of being involved with another terrorist organisation, the East Turkistan Islamic Movement. He organized training of cadre and raised funds for ETIM, the official Xinhua news agency said today.

Celil was also in touch with ETIM's former head Hasan Mahsum, who was shot dead by the Pakistan army in 2003, the court papers said.

It now turns out that the Chinese government had known about camps in Pakistan for a long time but chose to publicly keep quite about it for diplomatic reasons. Last January, the Chinese police killed 18 "terrorists" and arrested 17 others on the Chinese side of the Pamir plateau, which extends to Pakistan. One Chinese police officer was killed and another wounded in the raid.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/China_accuses_Pak_of_training_terrorists/articleshow/1925630.cms

 

[Adux]

Interesting, But Pak-China is way more deeper, If Pak can eliminate terrorist for American on its soil, you can be rest assured that they will do it for China too

 

[blain2]

Laughable!

 

[MirBadshah]

It is posted by makaymishra and published by times of India, what else can you do except laughing.................lol

 

[Neo]

The never ending wetdreams saga by Times of India...still trying to portray us as a terrorist nation...lol

 

[Janbaz]

Desperate effort to increase its sales maybe! Anyways pathetic and foolish!

 

[Contrarian]

True...I dont see such articles by Hindu.

 

[kvLin]

China turns table on Pakistan, accuses it of training terrorists


BEIJING: China on Thursday took the wind out of the Pakistani sails by saying that East Turkistan terrorists operating on its soil were actually trained in special camps in neighbouring Pakistan.


India's lobbying with China on the issue of Pakistani involvement in terrorism and Shaukar Aziz's attempt to overuse the "separatism card" to extract economic benefits may have prompted the government to expose
Pakistan's counter-terrorism credentials, sources said.

What is the sources,Malay?

A press conference was held by Liu Jiangchao,spokesman of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs Thursday afternoon. Liu gave a brief introduction to the case against Huseyin Celil (ID name : Wangshanjiang),and that's all,never mentioned about Pakistan.
http://news.xinhuanet.com/world/2007-04/19/content_6000107.htm

I've checked Xinhua News and other major offical websites, found no other reports over this matter.

I dont believe there could be anything that Chinese Govt would keep only for foreign media. isn't that weird?

 

[Contrarian]

Dunno dude, cant say, but chk this out:

http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default.asp?page=story_17-1-2004_pg1_2

China asks Pakistan to investigate Xinjiang terrorists list

By Shaukat Piracha

ISLAMABAD: The Chinese government has sent Islamabad a list and profile of terrorists and terrorist organisations of concern to the Government of China and wants them investigated by Pakistan.

Highly-placed sources told Daily Times that “the list of the first batch of identified Eastern Turkistan” terrorist organisations and terrorists compiled by the Ministry of Public Security, China, on December 15, 2003, has been sent through diplomatic channels to Pakistan, with a request to forward the list to the departments concerned for investigation.

Diplomatic sources say that Pakistan and China have been cooperating for a long time in the field of counter-terrorism. But they have intensified their efforts after the September 11, 2001, terrorist attacks on the United States. “To give concrete shape to this cooperation, the Foreign as well as Interior Ministers of the two countries met in 2002 and discussed counter-terrorism issues. Recently when President General Musharraf visited China, an extradition treaty was signed between the two countries,” sources explained.

“Pakistan has declared on many occasions that it will not allow its soil to be used to destabilise Xinjiang, the Chinese province that neighbours Pakistan’s Northern Areas”, sources said. They said that counter-terrorism operations have been taking place against the East Turkistan Islamic Movement for some time.

The recent list sent to Pakistan noted various aspects of at least two terrorist organisations, Eastern Turkistan Islamic Movement (ETIM) and Eastern Turkistan Liberation Organization (ETLO) as well as terrorists attached to these organisations. It also claims that these organisations and terrorists are well connected to Osama bin Laden’s Al Qaeda outfits and receive training as well as funding etc.

Sources said the Chinese have provided details of the origin of these organisations, a brief description of the major acts of terrorism committed by them, their chief leaders, major sources of funds and personnel, as well as an outline of relations between them and other global terrorist organisations.

The Eastern Turkistan Liberation Organization (ETLO) is also known as the Eastern Turkistan National Party. It is said to be working for the founding of an Eastern Turkistan State in Xinjiang, China, by means of violence and terror. “The ELTO was founded in Turkey with its headquarters in Istanbul. The founder of the organization is Muhametemin Hazret and its main leaders include Kanat, Dolqun Isa and Ubul Kasimu”, says the Chinese document.

Among the major acts of terrorism committed by the ETLO are a series of violent terrorist crimes in China and across Central Asia, with some South and West Asian countries as the base camp for terrorist training and Central Asia as the forward position and bridgehead for terrorist operations. In May 1998, ETLO agents committed arson in a series of cases in Urumqi, capital city of Xinjiang. Between May and June 1998, Askar Tuhti, Ahmet, Balamjan Ahmet and some other ETLO members launched bomb attacks in the state of Oshskaya, Kyrgyzstan.

In 1999, the Kazakhstan government cracked a major criminal case in which four Uygurs were murdered with their bodies cut into pieces. Investigations showed that it was Abulimit Turxun, a chieftain of ETLO, who had committed the murder.

In May 2000, ETLO terrorists killed officers, including the Foreign Office director, of the Kirgiz Autonomous Prefecture of Kizilsu and injured a Deputy Chief of public security, after which they escaped to Kazakhstan and murdered several policemen. In September 2001, Abulat Tursun and Ahmet collected a large quantity of arms and weapons including 7 India-made handguns. The two later entered China from the Zham Port in Tibet but in February, 2003, the Chinese police uncovered the terrorist group they had developed.

On June 29, 2002, Arken Yakuf and Rahmutulla Islayil, both ETLO members, murdered Chinese diplomat Wang Jianping in Bishkek, Kyrgyzstan.

The funding of the ETLO mainly comes from gift money from Al Qaeda outfits. They also make money through drug trafficking, arms smuggling, kidnapping and armed robbery. It mainly recruits young Xinjiang Uygurs under the age of 30 in Central Asia and convicted criminals and violent terrorists who have escaped from Xinjiang.

Relations with global terror networks are also mentioned in the Chinese document. Under the Taliban, the ETLO was allowed to run special military training camps at Mazar-i-Sharif and Khost. In 1999, when the armed forces of the Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan invaded the southern part of Kyrgyzstan, Muhametemin Hazret provided financial assistance of $600,000, one third of which was for the training of Eastern Turkistan terrorists, says the Chinese report.

The ETIM, also called as the East Turkistan Islamic Party or the Eastern Turkistan National Revolution Association, has been described as one of the most dangerous terrorist organisations among the Eastern Turkistan terrorist forces. “In 1993, Muhammad Tuhit and Abudu Rehman, both natives of Hotan, Xinjiang, founded the ETIM but it disintegrated later the same year. However, in 1997, Hasan Mahsum and Abudukadir Yapuquan ganged up with other East Turkistan activities to restore this organization. On September 11, 2002, the ETIM was put on the list of global terrorist organisations by the United Nations”.

As far as major acts of terrorism performed by the ETIM are concerned, the Chinese communication says that this organization has set up bases outside China to train terrorists and has been constantly sending agents to sneak into Chinese territory to mastermind terrorist and sabotage activities. Between early 1998 and the end of 1999, the ETIM ordered the Hotan Kulex terror gang to set up several secret lairs in Hotan Prefecture. It was responsible for the December 14 terrorist killings in Moyu County of Hotan in 1999, the February 4 robbery and murder case in Urumqi the same year and other acts of terror.

The chief leaders from the Uygur ethnic group are Hasan Mahsum, also known as Ashan Sumut, and Abdu Muhammad or Hasang Zunduliohe. Mr Mahsum was arrested in October 1993 by the Chinese police on the charge of performing acts of terror but he fled in 1997 and has since stayed in terrorist camps in Afghanistan to coach terrorists and plot deadly terrorist attacks in China, says the Chinese document.

The funding of the ETIM mainly comes from Al Qaeda outfits. The group also makes money through drug trafficking, arms smuggling, kidnapping, robbery and other organized crimes.

Relations between ETIM and other global terror organisations are noted. The Chinese government communication claims that the ETIM is closely linked to Mr Bin Laden’s Al Qaeda outfit and had got all-out support from the Taliban regime in Afghanistan.

 

[Neo]

Dailytimes, a foreign funded Pakistani newspaper is the equivalent of ToI.
Check the similarity in reported news in both newspapers.

 

[Contrarian]

And this as well...

China's changing views of terrorism

China is stepping up its efforts to convince the outside world that there is a direct link between the US-led war on terror and its own fight against Muslim separatists.

In the past, China revealed as little as possible about the sensitive issue of separatist violence in the huge and remote western region of Xinjiang.

In recent years a large number of Uighurs have crossed the border from Xinjiang into Pakistan, Afghanistan and Central Asia and have come into contact with al-Qaeda and other groups, he said.

"Some have become radicalised and received training and arms before slipping back across the Chinese border.

The failure of Pakistan to stop them is one reason for the recent cooling of ties between Beijing and Islamabad, Mr Gohel added.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/3320347.stm

 

[Adux]

Neo,

I agree, but there is also a chance it is true, Uigher Miltants always used the porus china-pakistan border as their launching points, And they have had enough sympathizers in the Networks of Pakistan to get arms and supplies

 

[Neo]

Neo,

I agree, but there is also a chance it is true, Uigher Miltants always used the porus china-pakistan border as their launching points, And they have had enough sympathizers in the Networks of Pakistan to get arms and supplies

Unlikely but not impossible. Many governments would be delighted to see that happen including the US and India.

But Sino-Pak friendship is timetested, if there's a bit truth in this rumor I'm sure PA and ISI will deal with the insurgents. We'll never harm our relationship with China, its in our national interest.

 

[Adux]

NEo,

I am not talking about the delight of India or the US. This is not China-Pakistan friendship test, this will not even hamper it. In my Opinion

What I am saying is, it is true fact Uigher Miltants operate of Pakistan. And it is not with the help of the ISI, There are private players who are more than capable of providing logisitics and Support to them

 

[Neo]

The border is a freakin riggid terrain with only few passes that hare heavily guarded, I've been there.

If they are nomads China will have to deal with it herself since nomads are given full clearance in the region.
But I can assure you that there are no trainingcamps for there guys, not on our side of the border.