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China thinks ‘might is right’, wants to ‘replace US as global net security provider’: Indian Army chief General Pande

"Internationally recognized" a definite trigger my man!
Why tho? It's in the UN, One of the oldest and most prominent issues.
It's only that it was first stonewalled and then swept under the rug by the powers that be.
 
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load of bullshit

Japan was bogged down in China and millions of Jap soldiers killed by Chinese there as against US marines and army and navy taking out only 200 to 300,000 japanese in Pacific war.

And if Zhukov not taking out the vast bulk of Hitler forces, US and UK left to take out Wehrmact invalids on R&R on D Day

Without US and UK in North Africa & land lease, the Germans would have taken Soviet Union

It makes no difference whether you have 20,000 troops or 200,000 troops on tiny Pacific islands. The island hopping and atomic bombs would have finished Japan
 
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GLF and CR were internal events. China was busy exporting revolution everywhere from India to Indonesia to Africa

GLF and CR are not done to extend Chinese dominance. These events has no bearing on the global order or affect any other country as one is a failed attempt at industrialization, the other is a civil strife, an internal power struggle.
Who told you that the Great Leap Forward and the Cultural Revolution were failed attempts at industrialization?
 
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Who told you that the Great Leap Forward and the Cultural Revolution were failed attempts at industrialization?

I thought during the Great Leap Forward iron nails were smelted so that they could meet production targets for iron
 
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Just remember Murica won only 3 wars since WW2, against Nicaragua, Panama and Grenada.
And even though Murica fought against sheep and goat herders in Afghan and Somalia and Iraq and with fire power 100 to 10,000 times greater, Murica lost and lost and lost.

Murica would not have won Germany in WW2 but for Zhukov killing the vast bulk of Werhmacht and miltary machinery
leaving Muricans to take on the German invalids on D Day

DDay operations not even 10% of Operation Bagration.
D Day took on 3 to 4 German Division that consisted of the German invalids send from Russia to R & R. And even so, Muricans and Brits had such a hard and difficult time doing that.

Where Soviet Union destroyed 28 of 34 divisions of Army Group Centre and completely shattered the German front line. It was the biggest defeat in German military history https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Bagration
Soviets were being routed by Germans until USA entered the war in Dec 1941.
Without North Africa/Land Lease USSR could lose the war with Germany
 
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Soviets were being routed by Germans until USA entered the war in Dec 1941.
Without North Africa/Land Lease USSR could lose the war with Germany
You are delusional, it's the other way around.
 
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Soviets were being routed by Germans until USA entered the war in Dec 1941.
Without North Africa/Land Lease USSR could lose the war with Germany
The U.S. was Hitler's sworn ally until Hitler started losing at Stalingrad.


The U.S. then proceeded to stab their puppet in the back, because the U.S. doesn't need losers.


The same way that the U.S. stabbed their Japanese allies in the back when the Japanese refused to open the 2nd (Eastern Front) on the Soviets during Operation Barbarossa.


People don't seem to know the history very well.


The Japanese that came into power were 100% the U.S. picked and backed side.


The end of the Russo-Japanese war was mediated by Teddy Roosevelt, where he planned to give Japan the South part of Korea to make sure that the Japanese could replace the Chinese by genocide by invasion through Manchuria.


Teddy Roosevelt wrote the whole thing down in his letters.


The U.S. then repurposed that effort into having their Japanese allies invade the Soviets Union from the east, but that didn't work so well, so Japan then decided to abandon that goal.


Take a look at the timeline.


The U.S. suspended oil and scrap metal exports to Japan right when Japan refused to aid Germany in their invasion of the Soviet Union during Operation Barbarossa.


That was when the U.S. decided that their Japanese allies had outlived their usefulness and switched sides to the Soviets and Chinese on the Pacific front.


The U.S., however, did not abandon their alliance with Hitler until they got bogged down in Stalingrad.


It was at that point that the U.S. and U.K. decided that they need to salvage as much of Western Europe as possible before the Soviets took all of Europe.


The reason the Normandy landings happened when they did was due to the absolute desperation of getting back onto mainland Europe to prevent the Soviets from taking all of Europe.
 
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The U.S. was Hitler's sworn ally until Hitler started losing at Stalingrad.


The U.S. then proceeded to stab their puppet in the back, because the U.S. doesn't need losers.


The same way that the U.S. stabbed their Japanese allies in the back when the Japanese refused to open the 2nd (Eastern Front) on the Soviets during Operation Barbarossa.


People don't seem to know the history very well.


The Japanese that came into power were 100% the U.S. picked and backed side.


The end of the Russo-Japanese war was mediated by Teddy Roosevelt, where he planned to give Japan the South part of Korea to make sure that the Japanese could replace the Chinese by genocide by invasion through Manchuria.


Teddy Roosevelt wrote the whole thing down in his letters.


The U.S. then repurposed that effort into having their Japanese allies invade the Soviets Union from the east, but that didn't work so well, so Japan then decided to abandon that goal.


Take a look at the timeline.


The U.S. suspended oil and scrap metal exports to Japan right when Japan refused to aid Germany in their invasion of the Soviet Union during Operation Barbarossa.


That was when the U.S. decided that their Japanese allies had outlived their usefulness and switched sides to the Soviets and Chinese on the Pacific front.


The U.S., however, did not abandon their alliance with Hitler until they got bogged down in Stalingrad.


It was at that point that the U.S. and U.K. decided that they need to salvage as much of Western Europe as possible before the Soviets took all of Europe.


The reason the Normandy landings happened when they did was due to the absolute desperation of getting back onto mainland Europe to prevent the Soviets from taking all of Europe.

pulling facts out of your rear does not make them so
 
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You are delusional, it's the other way around.

Germany and Japan couldn't touch continental America. With nukes and long range bombers America can wipe both Germany and Japan

Germany couldn't occupy United Kingdom. Japan could not subjugate China. That leaves USA with enough allies to beat them
 
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In the current order, a multi-polar war is a need, not just a want, as we've seen, the sole super-power going on a rampage and destroying nations on blatant lies. So there is a solid need to counterbalance these tendencies, regardless of this democracy and the freedom of bullshit it spouts while harboring or uplifting dubious characters.
That is why China is very popular in Muslim majority countries.

China thinks ‘might is right’, wants to ‘replace US as global net security provider’: Indian Army chief General Pande​

Speaking at Savitribai Phule Pune University, he said most important aspects of India’s operational environment remain challenges of disputed borders & Chinese action along LAC.
SNEHESH ALEX PHILIP
28 March, 2023 05:14 pm IST

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Pune: In a rare candid assessment by the military leadership of the biggest military and economic challenges being faced by India, Army chief General Manoj Pande said Monday that China was seeking to replace the US as the global net security provider, while believing in the policy of “might is right”.

General Pande also made it clear that the situation along the Line of Actual Control (LAC) between India and China needs to return to normal and status quo must be restored before the bilateral relations between the two countries can move forward.

While noting that LAC tensions have the possibility of triggering escalation, he asserted that the Indian Army has made adequate arrangements to deal with any contingency.


Speaking at the Savitribai Phule Pune University Monday, the Army chief said China’s rise as a political, economic, technological and military power has accorded it a new hierarchical position in the world order, which it intends to lead.

He said China’s forays in the South China Sea, rejection of International Tribunal awards on maritime claims, activities in the Taiwan Straits and actions along the LAC bordering on bellicosity, make it increasingly apparent that China’s interpretation of an “international rules-based order” rests on “might is right”.

China’s strides as a political powerhouse are evident in its pursuits of a much larger and “higher seat on the high table” said General Pande, adding that brokering of peace talks between Saudi Arabia and Iran earlier this month and putting forth the Chinese 12-point Peace Plan for ending the Russia-Ukraine conflict, “is reflective of a Chinese urgency to replace US as the global net security provider”.

He noted that China is also attempting to gain clout in international organisations which were traditionally dominated by Western nations. The means though remain through steady acquisitions of key official positions, use of economic leverages and aggressive ‘wolf warrior’ diplomacy or ‘bullying tactics’, he claimed.

General Pande said China’s multipronged strategy entails on the one hand support to international institutions and agreements that seem aligned to its goals and norms, yet on issues of divergence —such as human rights — it seeks to undermine such values and create alternative institutions and models.

“In domains, where norms and institutions are still being established, such as internet governance, it works with like-minded regimes to create standards that reflect their interests,” he said.

General Pande said that the era wherein Deng Xiaoping propounded “Hide your strength and bide your time”, is indeed over. In fact, the “work report” presented by Chinese President Xi Jinping at the 20th National Congress of the Communist Party of China in October last year, “is a first-hand account of China’s approach on everything from economic policy to diplomacy, in pursuit of the great rejuvenation of the Chinese nation”.

Indians are scared of China.

But I also enjoyed this Chinese Karl Marx Anime.
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Who told you that the Great Leap Forward and the Cultural Revolution were failed attempts at industrialization?
This is what Americans say in their history books.
I studied in Canadian universities so I have been exposed to this.
 
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