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China & Thailand vow to advance military ties

China and Thailand vowed to enhance their military relations on Friday.

The pledge came during a meeting between Guo Boxiong, vice chairman of China's Central Military Commission, and Thai Minister of Defence Prawit Wongsuwan.

Guo hailed the friendship between the two countries, saying that friendly relations have brought substantial benefits to the people of both nations.

Under the joint efforts of both sides, bilateral relations between China and Thailand have become a model of friendship between countries with different social systems, said Guo, adding that China appreciates Thailand's long-term understanding and support of China on issues concerning its core interests.

China and Thailand have enhanced cooperation on international and regional issues in recent years, which has played a positive role in maintaining regional and world peace, he said.

Guo spoke highly of the two nations' military cooperation and called on the armed forces of both countries to make further efforts to increase cooperation even further.

Prawit said Thailand and China are friendly neighbors and have established a close and cooperative relationship based on mutual respect.

The Thai government supports friendly relations between the two armed forces, he said, adding that Thai armed forces are willing to further strengthen exchanges and cooperation in all areas with Chinese armed forces.

Chinese Defense Minister Liang Guanglie also met with Prawit on Friday. The two sides exchanged views on further advancing bilateral defense cooperation.

China, Thailand vow to advance military ties
 
Anxiety as China Influences Thailand's Economy

By Richard S. Ehrlich
August 1, 2011

BANGKOK, Thailand -- A birthday party's dinner guests were bubbling with cheer until the subject of China came up, causing some of the Thais to suddenly turn gloomy.

"People in Thailand are worried," said a former foreign ministry diplomat, placing down his glass of red wine.

"China's economy is so big, and ours is so small, that we cannot compete with all the Chinese things being sold here. It is especially a problem for Thai S.M.E.s," he said, referring to small and medium-sized enterprises.

"China will own us!" said an official interpreter for top government leaders, expressing her outrage at Beijing's rapidly growing influence on Bangkok's economy.

"Of course China will also own America, but your economy is so big you can just tell Beijing that you won't pay all the money you owe, and they can't do anything about it. But Thailand is small. We can't say no to Beijing.

"Thailand will be like a vassal of China," she said.

U.S. corporations are also fretting about how to compete in a region where the shared knowledge of Chinese dialects and an ancient heritage, give China some unique advantages over America.

China's ability to sell food, household goods and other items at lower prices than Thai manufacturers has also pleased customers in this Southeast Asian nation.

Beijing is simultaneously increasing its military and cultural influence in Thailand, trying to wean Bangkok away from Washington and other foreign governments while expanding China's reach southward.

Chinese migrants have been settling in Thailand for generations, arriving through Laos and across the Mekong River or, more often, by sea from China's southeast coastal towns to Bangkok.

The earliest arrivals melded into a relatively unpopulated land centuries ago, maintaining some Chinese roots while mixing with ethnic Mon, Shan, Khmer and Thais to produce offspring who are today generally called Sino-Thais.

During the 1950s and 60s, Chinese fled the Communist takeover of their country, seeking greater freedom, safety and a capitalist economy in Thailand.

Some of the Chinese where suspected -- rightly or wrongly -- of being communist infiltrators and were arrested, imprisoned or shot dead by Thailand's U.S.-backed military which supported America's Vietnam War and believed Washington's "domino theory" of communist expansion across the region.

Many of the Chinese who survived, however, advanced upward and their descendants now occupy some of Thailand's highest political, economic, military and cultural positions.

Today, Chinese faces, fashions and symbols are promoted in Thai advertisements and pop culture as badges of financial success.

Many Thais admire local Chinese for educating their kids in Thailand's private "Chinese schools" while keeping their families united and working hard as a business team.

Thailand's newly elected government meanwhile is expected to confirm Yingluck Shinawatra as the country's first female prime minister in August.

She appears eager to allow China to construct high-speed trains on five main routes across Thailand, replacing this country's decrepit, accident-prone railway.

The first 380-mile (615-km) Chinese rail line would link Bangkok and Thailand's northern border town of Nong Khai, where a railway bridge over the Mekong River already leads to Vientiane, the capital of tiny Laos -- an impoverished country wedged between Thailand and China.

The Chinese railway projects could take a decade or more to complete, but Thailand's integration with China would be greatly enhanced.

The collision in China on July 24 of two bullet trains, which killed at least 39 people, has raised questions however among some Thais about Beijing's ability to build safe trains.

In January, Chinese investors began building a $1.5 billion China City Complex near Bangkok which could employ more than 70,000 Chinese citizens.

They would be able to import parts from China, manufacture the items into finished products on Thai territory, and export them elsewhere as "made-in-Thailand" without suffering some of the expensive tariffs which made-in-China products must pay.

The Chinese will also be able to sell the 700,000-sq-meter complex's clothing, household items and other goods to people within Thailand, free of tariffs.

"Apart from the business opportunities in Thailand, Chinese exporters can also promote their products to developed markets such as the European Union and the United States through this project," said Yang Fangshu, chairman of the ASEAN-China Economic and Trade Promotion Center, according to Beijing's China Daily.

In 2006, when Thailand's military staged a coup and toppled the prime minister, Washington suspended $24 million in military assistance and restricted high-level meetings.

Beijing, however, described the coup as Bangkok's internal affair and gave $49 million in military aid and credits to Thailand, while increasing the number of exchange students at both countries' staff colleges, and convincing the Thai military to participate in yearly, small-scale Special Forces joint exercises.

Chinese and Thai special forces held a 15-day joint anti-terrorism drill, "Strike-2010," during October in China's southern Guilin city to practice shooting, assaults and strategy.

During the same month, more than 100 troops and officers from the China Marine Corps' amphibious special warfare unit participated in a 10-day "Blue Strike-2010" drill with their Thai counterparts, using light weapons, underwater combat equipment, amphibious reconnaissance and anti-terrorism equipment.


It was the first time Chinese marines conducted a drill with a foreign army abroad.

But China has sold inferior weaponry to Thailand, making some Thai military officials wary of becoming dependent on Chinese supplies.

For Bangkok, commerce with Beijing appears to be much more important than military links.

Thailand's "government officials and academics sympathetic to the U.S. see the dynamic of China rising -- and the U.S. receding -- likely to continue, unless the U.S. takes more vigorous action to follow-up with sustained efforts to engage on issues that matter to the Thai and the region, not just what is perceived as the U.S.'s own agenda," said a confidential American Embassy cable to Washington in February 2010.

The cable, "10BANGKOK269," was titled: "China's Sustained, Successful Efforts to Court Southeast Asia and Thailand -- Perspectives and Implications."

It was signed by then-U.S. Ambassador Eric John and released by WikiLeaks.

The cable's section subtitled, "China Rising, U.S. Fading?" warned: "Indications that the U.S.'s historically close relationship with Thailand and the region is being challenged by the rise of China have become increasingly evident in recent years in a variety of arenas, not just economically but diplomatically, culturally, politically, and even in some security areas."

The U.S. Embassy even felt competition on a diplomatic level.

"We have also noticed an ever increasing quality to the Chinese diplomatic presence in Thailand. Many Chinese diplomats are fully fluent in Thai, led by the Chinese Ambassador, who has spent 17 years of his career posted here and routinely makes local TV appearances.

"Those that do not have previous Thai experience, like the DCM [Deputy Chief of Mission] are smart, articulate, and increasingly confident in speaking up at English-language international relations seminars once the preserve of 'Western' diplomats," the cable said.

China's roll south also includes prostitution, gambling and other hedonistic offerings, most surprisingly in and around a tacky, Greco-Roman building complex on the Lao side of the Mekong River across from Thailand.

Chinese recently leased a 25,000-acre Special Economic Zone from the Lao government and constructed an extravagant casino, topped by a garish golden crown, in newly created Kapok City.

Gaming tables reportedly employ 2,000 people.

The Chinese complex will also offer golf, restaurants, hotels, an airport and shopping malls.

Construction includes a 46-km road linking the casino to Huay Xai town on the Mekong River, according to Chiang Mai's Citylife magazine, and will help the area prosper.

"Before, it was opium and drug businesses, maybe only 10 years before," in the area, the casino's manager told the magazine.

"There were no roads, no electricity, no water. Laos is developing, and it is good for them."

The Lao government gave the Chinese a 99-year lease to develop the complex, which already has gamblers playing at its tables. Security includes private guards and metal detectors, and a ban on alcohol and photography in the casino, though smoking is allowed, the report said.

Several top Thai corporations are meanwhile trying to make profits by investing in China, hoping to copy the perceived success of Thailand's Charoen Pokphand Group.

In 1979, CP Group -- known in China as the Chia Tai Group (Zheng Da Ji Tuan) -- was the first multinational enterprise to invest in China's agribusiness.

Famous in Thailand for chicken and other food products, they expanded into China by focusing on the growing, processing and marketing of poultry and other edibles, alongside investments in huge supermarkets, entertainment complexes, automotive and other industries, plastics, and TV media.

More recently, Thailand's agricultural exporters have been exporting magosteens, durians, pomelo, tamarind and other food to China, helped by a deal signed in April which streamlined customs checks for road shipments.

Sealed trucks are now able to speed to northern Thailand's border town of Chiang Khong, cross the Mekong into northwest Laos at Huay Sai, travel further north on Route 3 to the Lao-China border town of Mohan, and enter southern China's Yunnan province for delivery by superhighway to Jinghong and Kunming.

The journey takes about five days.

Before the agreement, trucks had to stop at the Thai-Lao border for laborious reloading onto different vehicles inside Laos, and again be unloaded and reloaded at the Lao-China border.

Alternatively, Thai exporters use Bangkok's port to ship goods along the Gulf of Thailand and South China Sea into Hong Kong.

China, however, produces much larger and more diversified foods for export into Thailand, threatening local producers and worrying consumers who fear China's deadly toxic contamination.

Thailand's Food and Drug Administration recently increased checks on food arriving from China, testing for mercury, melamine, pesticides and other hazardous substances.
Thailand will be like a vassal of China," she said.[/
Anxiety as China Influences Thailand's Economy | Scoop News

Let see what will USA do, if CHina can control Thailand, free Malacca Traight is Over !
 
USA can make poorest VNese-Thailand become a bilionare bro, so he will become very famous in short time :lol:

LOL. you don't know how the Thais view about your Yuon!?

oh not only Thailand but also the whole region from Cambodia to Lao and the ASEAN. They love your wet dream of becoming "superpower" and they disgusted when seeing Cambodia chained by your Yuon octopus!!!

So you must stop dragging ASEAN to your greedy Vietnam, who like your Yuon here!!!??? :sniper:
 
LOL. you don't know how the Thais view about your Yuon!?

oh not only Thailand but also the whole region from Cambodia to Lao and the ASEAN. They love your wet dream of becoming "superpower" and they disgusted when seeing Cambodia chained by your Yuon octopus!!!

So you must stop dragging ASEAN to your greedy Vietnam, who like your Yuon here!!!??? :sniper:

Hehe, if you blame some one, blame CIA first, thye won't let Thailand fall in CHina's hand, so Vietnamese-Thailand can be the best option bro .

Thailand tourism industry is developing fast, they won't kill some one to lose their Smiling face bro :p:
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Hongwu said:
LOL. Then they put Gambit on the throne in Vietnam too.
Yep, very good option, we pro Mr. Gambit :lol:
 
Thailand is already in Chinese hands, current prime misnister is ethnic Chinese, the previous one , and the one before the previous one are all ethnic Chinese. More than 50% of Thailand's past prime ministers are ethnic Chinese.
 
Thailand is already in Chinese hands, current prime misnister is ethnic Chinese, the previous one , and the one before the previous one are all ethnic Chinese. More than 50% of Thailand's past prime ministers are ethnic Chinese.


Based on my witnesses, at least those people are loyalty to Thailand and the King, the King is half of Chinese in blood, the Thai love the King so they have good reason to support those Chinese-Thai ministers. Plus Thais are open mind people, they get involved with Chinese peacefully and the Chinese love them either. The Chinese immigrants help building a huge contribution to Thailand, so there are nothing could prevent the warm feeling between the Thai and the Chinese going closer. I could say the relationship between Thailand and China are not like the Viet treat us Cambodian. Even we have dispute with Thailand this recent time but we don't hate Thais, we hope the problem could be solved in a near future so all of us can live in happily again. Yet, be aware to not to fall in the trap the Viet make to stir up our friendship between three countries Cambodia, Thailand and China!!!
 
Thailand is already in Chinese hands, current prime misnister is ethnic Chinese, the previous one , and the one before the previous one are all ethnic Chinese. More than 50% of Thailand's past prime ministers are ethnic Chinese.

It's not easy like that, Thailand and CHina dont' share the border, and Thailand still in US 's hand, CIA will make some coups or even assassination to keep controling Thailand.
 
Thailand

The US has a trusted strategic ally in Thailand for a long time. Shan W. Crispin, South East Asia editor (AT on line), writes that the “US military jump started Thailand’s move toward capitalism by pumping more than $ 2.5 billion between 1951 and 1975 in military related aid to the country to develop a regional bulwark against the spread of communism”.

Growing from the cold war era, the US-Thai relations was strengthened on the basis of shared economic and trade interests and has been further bolstered since September 2001 by Thailand’s commitment to fight terrorism in South East Asia. The arrest of Hambali, a Jemaah Islamiyah leader, in 2003 in a joint US-Thai operation highlights the part played by Thailand in the US global war on terror. Thailand contributed troops and support for US military operations in both Afghanistan and Iraq and was designated as a major non-NATO ally in December 2003.

As part of its strategy in its global war on terrorism, a Counter-Terrorism Intelligence Centre (CITC) was established jointly in Thailand in 2001 between the CIA and Thai intelligence agencies. The US is learnt to be providing annually $ 10 to 15 million and some advanced surveillance equipment to the CITC. Thailand is also believed to have run a secret prison for the US where Muslim terror suspects could be held without trial.

Highlights of the longstanding involvement of the US in nurturing its relations with Thailand in the last few decades are -

US has a bilateral security arrangement with Thailand (one of only two countries in South East Asia.
US entered into a military assistance agreement in 1950 following the Korean war.
The Manila Pact signed in 1954 recognizes that a threat to the security of Thailand constitutes a threat to the US. Consequent to the dissolution of SEATO, the pact was reinforced by the Thanat-Rusk Joint Communiqué of 1962.
Thailand and US conduct over 40 joint military exercises every year. The annual military exercise code named “Cobra Gold” is one of the largest military exercises involving US forces anywhere in Asia.
An agreement entered into with US in July 2001, allows Thailand to purchase advanced medium range air-to-air missiles for its F-16 fighters, a first for a South East Asian state.
Thailand has opened the Vietnam era air base in Utapao and a naval base in Sattahip from where the US can provide logistic support to forces in Afghanistan and the Middle East.
Thailand is one of the largest recipients of International Military Education Training (IMET) program funding in the world with approximately $ 2.5 million annually.
On the economic front, the US is currently Thailand’s largest trading partner, while Thailand is United States’ 17th largest trading partner. A Free Trade Agreement (FTA) between US and Thailand is under negotiation since June 2004 and when finalized the bilateral trade of approximately $ 20 billion is expected to rise considerably.

There have been differences between US and Thailand on the Burma Policy and human rights issues. Thailand has always advocated a policy of constructive engagement with Myanmar (Burma) while US has pursued a policy of economic and diplomatic sanctions against the military junta. The US State Department Human Rights Report (2004) asserts that Thailand’s record worsened and cites excessive use of force by some members of the police and links these elements to extra judicial killings.

Despite the strong ties between Thailand and US, the US was pushed to an awkward situation, When Thaksin was ousted in September 2006 through a military coup. US is morally and legally bound not to support a military government that seized power by overthrowing the democratically elected government. However the US seems to have circumvented the legal provisions and continue to support the ruling Council for National Security, as it suits the overall aim of counterbalancing the increasing influence of China.
SOUTH EAST ASIA: US Interests, Influence and Involvement

The article also gives an overview of US relations with ASEAN, Indonesia, Philippines, Malaysia, Singapore, Myanmar, Cambodia, Laos and Vietnam.
 
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