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China swimmer Ye Shiwen 'clean', says British Olympic Association

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Here is a picture of the US coach John Leonard, who accused Ye Shiwen of illegal doping:

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In a big case of irony, this guy said that the tests would "prove that she had taken drugs". :rolleyes:

Well, the tests showed that she was clean. Is this guy going to apologize? I bet he won't.

Instead of waiting him to apologize, slap him in the face.
 
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Here is a picture of the US coach John Leonard, who accused Ye Shiwen of illegal doping:

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In a big case of irony, this guy said that the tests would "prove that she had taken drugs". :rolleyes:

Well, the tests showed that she was clean. Is this guy going to apologize? I bet he won't.

What a looser , i can understand if the accusation were coming from fellow competitors or commentators, but coming from the man of his position is it totally unacceptable .
 
Olympic organizers, swimming president defend China’s teen sensation from doping suspicions - The Washington Post

"Olympic organizers, swimming president defend China’s teen sensation from doping suspicions
By Associated Press, Updated: Tuesday, July 31, 12:50 PM

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LONDON — Olympic organizers and swimming’s governing body leapt to the defense of China’s world record-breaking teen sensation Ye Shiwen on Tuesday, with the sport’s president saying suspicions that she doped were “crazy” and motivated by jealousy and the IOC stressing its confidence in the drug-testing program.

“We need to get real here,” said International Olympic Committee spokesman Mark Adams. “These are the world’s best athletes competing at the very highest level. We’ve seen all sorts of records broken already all over the place.”

Adams said the top five athletes in each event, plus two others, are tested as part of “a very, very strong drug-testing program, and we are very confident if there are cheats we will catch them.”

“We can’t stop speculation. It is inevitably a sad result of the fact that there are people who dope and who cheat,” Adams said. “It’s very sad we can’t applaud a great performance. Let’s give the benefit of the doubt to the athletes.”

Ye won the 400-meter individual medley on the opening day of the Olympic swimming competition, and was the favorite to win the 200 IM on Tuesday evening, too.

The 16-year-old Ye sliced through the last lap of the 400 in 28.93 seconds — faster than the 29.10 American winner Ryan Lochte posted in the last 50 of the men’s race. Ye’s time was 4:28.43, more than a second faster than the previous world record set by Australia’s Stephanie Rice at the 2008 Beijing Games in a now-banned bodysuit.

John Leonard, head of the American Swimming Coaches Association but not a member of the U.S. Olympic staff, was among those openly questioning Ye’s legitimacy. The Guardian newspaper quoted him as saying the last 100 of her race “was reminiscent of some old East German swimmers.”

“History in our sport will tell you that every time we see something, and I put quotation marks around this, ‘unbelievable,’ history shows us that it turns out later on there was doping involved,” Leonard was quoted as saying.

Asked about Leonard’s comments, FINA president Julio Maglione told The Associated Press that people are free to say “stupid things” if they want.

“It’s a big mistake,” Maglione said of Ye’s doubters. “The people that said this is crazy.”

He said FINA spends $1 million to drug-test the top 30 swimmers in the world two or three times a year and “swimming is absolutely clean.”

He said that he has absolutely no suspicions about Ye and that her critics are jealous because China is becoming a swimming power.

“It’s best for the swimming,” Maglione said. “Not only two or three countries. We have now 15 countries that take medals, 20 countries. That is important that many countries in the world take medals.”

The anti-doping chief for China’s General Administration of Sport, Jiang Zhixue, said Chinese athletes, including swimmers, have passed nearly 100 drug tests since they arrived in London. FINA’s website shows Ye also underwent three out-of-competition drug tests from June 2011 to February this year.

“Some people are just biased,” the official Xinhua News Agency quoted Jiang as saying. “We never questioned Michael Phelps when he bagged eight gold medals in Beijing.”

Australian coach Ken Wood, who has a contract with the Chinese Swimming Association and has trained 20 of China’s swimmers in London, accused Ye’s doubters of double standards.

“They are just laying it on, especially the Americans because they are losing the whole damn meet,” Wood told the AP by phone from Australia. “They are creating double standards.”

He said China is extremely strict about adhering to its anti-doping rules. He said a group of about a dozen Chinese swimmers — including some now in London — who came to his academy to train a few years ago were temporarily suspended from competing after drug testers couldn’t find them where they had said they would be. The swimmers mistakenly listed the pool, instead of their nearby rented accommodation, as the place to find them for drug tests, he said.

“What happened was the drug testers came around and said, ‘Where are the Chinese?’ I said they are not training now,” Wood said. “They couldn’t find them when they wanted to.”

“So the Chinese Swimming Association immediately banned them and said, ‘Right. Oh, they can’t swim anymore,’” he told the AP. “That’s how stringent they are.”

He wrote to the CSA explaining that the mistake was a language issue and that the swimmers had given the wrong address. Chinese authorities later wrote back saying they accepted his explanation, and the swimmers were reinstated, he said. “They did suspend them and I had to write a letter,” he said.

“They reinstated them and sent me a letter and said, ‘Thank you very much. We have no reason to doubt the veracity of your statement.’”

He said the Chinese swimmers are subjected to frequent doping tests.

“They hit them all the time,” he said. “Some of the swimmers got tested three times in one week.”


Sebastian Coe, head of the London organizing committee, said it would “very unfair to judge an athlete by a sudden breakthrough.”

“What you tend to forget is probably the 10 years of work that’s already gone in to get to that point,” he said on ITV News. “You need to look back through her career. I think you’ve got to be very careful when you make judgments like that, but, yes, it is an extraordinary breakthrough.”

John Brewer, a board member of UK Anti-Doping and director of sport at the University of Bedfordshire, also talked down doubts about Ye.

“Drug testing procedures in place at the London 2012 Olympics are extremely rigorous, and the storage of samples for eight years after the games makes doping a very high-risk strategy,” he said. “We should not be surprised by exceptional performances since gold-medal winning athletes are inevitably different to the rest of us due to their talent, training and lifestyles.”

China, with 1.3 billion people, “has a vast pool of talent to choose from ... so we should not be too surprised when an individual with exceptional talent emerges,” he added.

Ye is known for her large hands and feet, but otherwise she’s smaller than other swimmers at 5-foot-7 (1.72 meters) and 141 pounds (64 kilograms).

“One of the interesting things about swimming is people don’t swim the same way,” said Bob Bowman, Phelps’ coach. “They have to swim the way their body is made, so that’s what she’s doing. She’s taking advantage of her size.”

“I don’t think that 4:28 is an impossible time in the 400 IM, I think it’s a perfectly logical time for someone to go,” he said of her world-record swim. “The girl has good technique. She had an amazing last 100 but people do amazing things sometimes.”


“I trust the testing service and I know that Michael was tested nonstop and we’re very careful about what goes into his body, and I assume that other competitors are, too,” Bowman added."
 
You could feel all the fear and consternation the western whities are exhibiting in this latest drama they produced at China's ascension. After Beijing they saw China whooped them in the total gold medal count by significant margins and China pushing into sports they once dominated in, particular diving for a while and gymnastics -remember the US dominated diving and gym for much of 80s and 90s. Track and field and more particular swimming is their last bastion where white athletes hold a monopoly.

Look at the swimming finals, they are always white from US, Australia, France, Germans, and very rarely eastern European countries. Why do you not see blacks in swimming finals?

Because swimming requires millions of dollars in facilities and coaching, something Africa doesn't have and for a long while Asia never had. When the whites see China pushing into swimming they see their last remaining dominance getting wilted away so they will do anything to obstruct this momentum. As China gets richer and richer more and more swimming facilities are branching out across the country and more money can be portioned for coaching and sports science. How many 6'7 guys like Sun Yang are out there in China particular in the South is what these white countries fear and loath.

If China wants to be cruel they would extend their millions of dollars in facilities, coaching, sport sciences to Africans so they would have equal chances in the Swimming events. We will see within a decade or 2 Africans crushing every swim finals while the whites will come in 4 to 8th, background fodder material.
 
Fox News: IOC defends China's Ye Shiwen amid doping speculation, says she passed drug test

"IOC: China's Shiwen passed drug test
Updated Jul 31, 2012 11:04 AM ET

LONDON (AP)

The International Olympic Committee has sprung to the defense of China's teenage swim sensation Ye Shiwen, saying she passed a drug test after her world record win in the 400 medley.

IOC spokesman Mark Adams urged people to ''get real'' and said it is ''very sad'' if great performances cannot be applauded.

The 16-year-old shattered the world record in getting her gold Saturday. There has since been speculation about how she swam so fast.

Adams said: ''I think we need to get real here.''

''These are world class athletes competing at the very highest level with records being broken all over the place.'''
 
Haven't seen much of swimming events, but Chinese table tennis team is a notch above the rests. :tup:
 
I admit when I read she bested her personal best record by 5 seconds and even swam faster than Ryan Lochte in the last 50M, I was really suspicious.

How could a woman who is shorter and has less wingspan swim faster than a man who is taller and has a bigger wingspan.

That to me was the most perplexing part of it.

Now that she has been tested and it came negative.

So give credit where credit is due.


Although in the past, Chinese swimmers have tested positive for banned substances.

http://www.swimmingworldmagazine.com/lane9/news/World/30779.asp

China's Li Zhesi Tests Positive for EPO -- June 9, 2012

BEIJING, China, June 9. WORD out from Chinese media outlets, including Xinhua and Sina, reports that Chinese sprinter Li Zhesi has tested positive for erythropoietin (EPO), announced the Chinese Anti-Doping Agency today.

"The drug was found both in the A and B samples," the announcement, as reported by Xinhua, stated. The positive took place on March 31 as an out-of-competition test.

No punishment has been decided for Li, who was a winning member of the 400 medley relay at the 2009 World Championships. Li is only 16.


The Chinese Anti-Doping Agency made the announcement as part releasing four total positive tests, including women's rowers and track and field athletes.

"Chinese Swimming is at a loss, Chinese head swimming coach Zhang Yadong told Sina. "I hope that it was an accident."

Zhang spoke with Sina at length in an article discussing the impact of the news.

Zhang focused on how much of a hit losing Li for relay duty could have if she winds up missing out on the 2012 London Olympics, which is likely.
 
THE USA COACH SHOULD REMEMBER THAT USA IS NOT THE AQUATICS SUPERPOWER ANYMORE.
MANY COUNTRIES HAVE MADE HUGE EFFORTS TO CATCH UP WITH IT, ESPECIALLY CHINA AND AUSTRALIA.
IN THE 4 X 100 RELAY COMPETITION WHERE FRANCE BEAT USA AFTER AN AMAZING LAST LAP BY THE FRENCH SWIMMER, WHY DIDNT HE POINT FINGERS TOWARDS FRANCE. THAT LAST LAP WAS NOTHING SHORT OF A SUPERHUMAN EFFORT. THIS MAN JUST CANT DIGEST THAT ANY OTHER ASIAN COUNTRY CAN BEAT USA CONVINCINGLY AND CAN CHALLENGE THEIR SUPREMACY WHICH HAS BEEN FOR DECADES
 
Chinese swimmer Ye Shiwen was tested on Saturday after winning. She's clean.

2012 Summer Olympics -- What does suspicion of Chinese swimmer say about fans? - ESPN

"Healthy skepticism, or cynicism?
What does suspicion of Chinese swimmer Ye Shiwen say about us as fans?
Originally Published: July 31, 2012
By Wayne Drehs | ESPN.com
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After an amazing performance by Chinese swimmer Ye Shiwen, skeptics immediately raised the issue of doping. Is that fair? (Rob Schumacher/USA TODAY Sports)
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It's Ljungqvist's job to help determine what we should and shouldn't believe. He said Monday that the IOC will test more than 5,000 samples during the London Games. The blood and urine of the top five finishers in every event will be tested, as will that of competitors when intelligence suggests they may be cheating. At minimum, Ye has been tested once after winning gold in the 400 IM. She'll probably undergo another test after the 200 IM on Tuesday night.

Asked if Ye's test Saturday had come back positive, IOC spokesman Mark Adams said, 'We would only comment if we had any adverse finding. I am not commenting, so you can draw your own conclusions.'
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THE USA COACH SHOULD REMEMBER THAT USA IS NOT THE AQUATICS SUPERPOWER ANYMORE.
MANY COUNTRIES HAVE MADE HUGE EFFORTS TO CATCH UP WITH IT, ESPECIALLY CHINA AND AUSTRALIA.
IN THE 4 X 100 RELAY COMPETITION WHERE FRANCE BEAT USA AFTER AN AMAZING LAST LAP BY THE FRENCH SWIMMER, WHY DIDNT HE POINT FINGERS TOWARDS FRANCE. THAT LAST LAP WAS NOTHING SHORT OF A SUPERHUMAN EFFORT. THIS MAN JUST CANT DIGEST THAT ANY OTHER ASIAN COUNTRY CAN BEAT USA CONVINCINGLY AND CAN CHALLENGE THEIR SUPREMACY WHICH HAS BEEN FOR DECADES

This Chinese Swimmer swimming so fast, its like...

A female runner running 400meters 5 seconds faster than what she has previously done....and running faster than the male competitors.

When was the last time a female athlete ran faster a male athlete in the same type of event?
 
China's swimming team should have broken all the records and collected a lot of gold medals in swimming now, shouldn't we?
 
Ye Shiwen is current defending world champion and ranked #2 in the world prior to Olympics

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China's Ye Shiwen is the current defending world champion and world #2 prior to the Olympics.

China's Ye Shiwen Bags Second Gold

"China's Ye Shiwen Bags Second Gold
China's Ye Shiwen, cleared after an earlier doping controversy, has collected her second swimming gold.
9:04pm UK, Tuesday 31 July 2012
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'She won the World Championships last year, she was ranked second in the world. She's not a new swimmer who has just come out of nowhere.'"

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10000872396390444405804577560980787228886.html

"Statistics suggest Ye's performance in the 400m medley, which first prompted these questions, wasn't unprecedented. Her time of 4:28.43 was an improvement of about 2.44% on her time from the 2011 world championships, the last major international event she swam in. But in the same pool on Sunday in a different race—the semifinals of the 100-meter breaststroke—Ruta Meilutyte, a 15-year-old Lithuanian, shaved two seconds off of her pre-Olympic personal best. That performance represented a 3.1% improvement.

The raw speed of Ye's final 50-meter freestyle isn't unprecedented, either. In last year's World Championships in Shanghai, Great Britain's Rebecca Adlington swam the final 50 meters of the 800m freestyle final in 28.91 seconds, .02 second faster than Ye and 19 hundredths faster than Lochte's time from the 400m medley.
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Also, she grew four inches during the last two years. Of course she improved her personal best by five seconds during the last two years. She grew up.

Ye Shiwen's 'unbelievable' swims are talk of Olympics. - NewsFeed Researcher - olympic, olympics, chinese, swimming, china, swimmers, swimmer, golds, gold, london, medals, medal

"13 minutes ago – [5] Teenage Chinese swimmer Ye Shiwen is not a drug cheat, the British .... at 14, she was just over 5' 2" -- she's grown four inches since."
 
She has won the 400 IM in other sports events. And young swimmers usually have dramatic improvements due to still not being fully grown. Ye Shiwen has gotten taller in the last 2 years. She has always been a very talented swimmer, so she didn't come out of nowhere.

This attack on our little girl is racism.
You mean like how Ben Johnson (Can) and Marion Jones (US) were convicted of doping based upon racism?
 
You mean like how Ben Johnson (Can) and Marion Jones (US) were convicted of doping based upon racism?

They were all because of internal fighting, idiot.

For Johnson - Because US wanted that Gold Medal for Carl Lewis - another doper.
For Jones - Because of her husband.

Anyway, US is the doping king.
 
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