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China starts "combat ready" patrols in disputed seas

Viet Nam is always be prepared with China from time to time in very very worst scenario cases. Once Viet Nam proves to the World enough evidence that been taken from China. The clock will ticking.

Back to 32 years ago, U.S and the World specially China put Viet Nam wearing a "aggressive hat country" which was Viet Nam has been attacked by Khmer Rouge and 32 years latter with more documents unveiled that Viet Nam just an innocent country.

Same this time, China just bluffed the World with dirty tricks and invalid value claims what its trying to archives. China and Chinese always are hungry for lands and too thirsty for water. China will eats, swallow anything on its ways once chances on hands.
 
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China must be prepared to wage a TOTAL war and see who blinks first.

After the war, it will take China max 20 years to be where she is now, whilst China's opponents will be sent to stone age and remain there for ages to come.

The trick is to make the coming war as large a scale as possible. It should not and will not to confined to the SCS. It should, for exmaple, involve India. Since you are already in a state of war, you might as well take the opportunity and settle some old scores by taking back for example what is rightfully yours south of the MacMahon line.
 
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China must be prepared to wage a TOTAL war and see who blinks first.

After the war, it will take China max 20 years to be where she is now, whilst China's opponents will be sent to stone age and remain there for ages to come.

The trick is to make the coming war as large a scale as possible. It should not and will not to confined to the SCS. It should, for exmaple, involve India. Since you are already in a state of war, you might as well take the opportunity and settle some old scores by taking back for example what is rightfully yours south of the MacMahon line.

Vietnam is always a stone aged country, it won't take China more than 20 days to make the recovery.
 
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Vietnam is always a stone aged country, it won't take China more than 20 days to make the recovery.

You can shouting in canada, big mouth. It will be repeat new photo like this.

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they dont even have a navy ,dont know how can they cause damage to us??

Don't spam here Manchu bro, shouting loudly like mad man, go to do something for independence of Manchuria. PDF members look down at you, you lost your identity, you are no one in the world. :smokin:
 
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Our warships have been patrolling the area since the Yuan dynasty, and we mapped the area as far as Han dynasty. Simply because China did not have the naval capability to patrol our islands before, does not mean we relent on our claims.

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We are talking about sovereignty. As for sovereignty, its not discovery and naming. It's history, use/occupation and control/jurisdiction. China claims to have discovered it and has a history over it, used it for a multitude of uses but he never had control and jurisdiction over it. China never controlled the area. China never managed the area, never had the Chinese government in the area. So ergo, CHINA DO NOT HAVE SOVEREIGNTY OVER THE AREA. The Chinese government merely claims jurisdiction in these areas but they do not have effective jurisdiction as required for sovereignty. China has to prove indisputable sovereignty before he can rightfully claim the islands. Without this, this action is as pointless as just drawing a map with China's name on it.

Philippines control of the area which is effected by frequent patrols as allowed by our small fleet of boats and policing of these waters for decades without protest from any other country claimants, including arrests of both chinese and vietnamese fishermen illegally fishing in Philippine jurisdiction or using illegal fishing methods in our waters. In 1957, the Philippine government conducted an oceanographic survey of the area and together with the US Navy force based in then U.S. Naval Base Subic Bay in Zambales, used the area as an impact range for defense purposes. An 8.3 meter high flag pole flying a Philippine flag was raised in 1965. A small lighthouse was also built and operated the same year. In 1992, the Philippine Navy rehabilitated the lighthouse and reported it to the International Maritime Organization for publication in the List of Lights.

The Philippines has history, use and control of the area. Now that's sovereignty.


Actually, if war breaks out, we'll break Philippines into pieces. How about a Communist Luzon and a Muslim south for starters? Maybe we'll hang Aquino's head on a flag pole somewhere in Manila.


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Now when will you stubborn Chinese accept logic? When will you guys start lowering your extreme pride which the world sees as arrogance? When will you obey the law???


Flip baboons will be crushed. It's only a matter of time.

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Slinging insults is a sure sign of a lost argument. What is the point of having a civilized discussion if you are not keeping an open mind?

UN only recognize China's ownership in SCS. after WWII, those islands handed over from Japan to China.

No country signed any document saying everything inside your imaginary line belongs to china!! stop making things up!
We have always wondered why China keeps on insisting bilateral country to country talks only, and resorts to various forms of harrassments instead of just proving their claim over the courts. Various reasons have been given, but these reasons defy even the most logical arguements of a learned man. They are nonsense. Why is China so afraid?


how to protect Chinese claim? by power! Philippine is still trying hard to prove what they claim, can not protect what they claim.

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Even your government officials and professors from your universities cannot show any proof! Yet these Chinese rant in these forums as if they are right. They call for war as if they are holy and almighty.

Admit it. You know that SCARBOROUGH IS PHILIPPINE TERRITORY. It will be hard to accept, but the evidence is there. China has no evidence.

2) lost political supports. No other countries stand up behind Philippine. even USA is stepping back.

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RUSSIA -
March 13, 2012: Russia Pronounce its support to the Philippines over Spratly disputes with china
and other claimants. Philippines
- Russia is supporting the Philippines' stand that RULES based on
transparency and diplomacy should be used to resolve maritime issues.

ASEAN
Leaders of the Association of Southeast Asian Nations (Asean) have agreed that the regional Code of Conduct in the South China Sea should integrate provisions of the United Nations Convention
on the Law of the Sea (Unclos), a treaty that the Philippines cites in its claim to disputed
Scarborough Shoal and other islands.

EUROPEAN UNION
EU-Asia Center director Fraser
Cameron said during a forum in Manila that the EU supports a rules-based
international system and liberty of navigation. The EU believes that territorial disputes should be
resolved “in accordance with international law through peaceful and cooperative solutions.”

NEW ZEALAND
New Zealand backs Philippine position on Spratlys

New Zealand supports the position of the Philippines and other allies
that claimants to the Spratly chain of islands must heed the United
Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea (UNCLOS), the Department of
National Defense said Friday.

MALAYSIA
Malaysia backs Philippines in dispute vs China

Malaysia is supporting the Philippines'
stand that Manila's dispute with China over ownership of Scarborough
shoal should be resolved based on the United Nations Convention on Law
of the Sea (UNCLOS), Vice President Jejomar Binay said Tuesday.

VIETNAM BACKS THE PHILIPPINES
1) Support for the “sovereign rights” of the Philippines in the Scarborough Shoal.
2) Opposition to China’s use of the “nine-dashed line” to make
overlapping claims with the Exclusive Economic Zones and continental
shelves of the Philippines, Vietnam and other ASEAN countries, as well
as opposition to “China’s actions and threats of force,” the latter
presumably referring to articles in China’s state controlled press.
3) Support for the Philippines’ proposal to submit the dispute at
Scarborough Shoal to the International Tribunal for the Law of the Sea
(ITLOS).

JAPAN
President Benigno Aquino III on Tuesday night secured Japanese Prime
Minister Yoshihiko Noda’s support for a peaceful resolution of the
six-nation dispute over the potentially oil-rich Spratly islands.
Following the meeting, the President and Noda “confirmed that freedom of
navigation, unimpeded commerce, and compliance with established
international law including the UNCLOS and the peaceful settlement of
disputes serve the interests of the two countries and the whole region.”
UNCLOS refers to the UN Convention on the Law of the Sea.

AUSTRALIA
Australia said those involved in the territorial dispute — Brunei,
China, Malaysia, Philippines, and Taiwan — should adhere to the United
Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea (UNCLOS), which codifies the
international law of the sea.

Australia’s expression of support came less than a week after Washington expressed its support to Manila over the same issue.

USA
International Law Should be Used.
U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton on Thursday pledged to
support the Philippines amid growing tensions between China and its
neighbors in disputed areas of the South China Sea (or West Philippine
Sea).

NO COUNTRY SUPPORTS CHINA'S 9-DASH CLAIM!!!!!


Fighting against China in SCS is a missing impossible for all small countries.
Will US helps? no, it will only make the case worse.

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Among those nations who become powerful it was only China who indeed wants to fight with the weaker states.
Let your posts here be proof of China's immorality, arrogance, immaturity and stupidity.
 
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You can shouting in canada, big mouth. It will be repeat new photo like this.
haha


haha,thousands of my fellow men were in the army helping burn down every building in North Vietnam,haha
 
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UN only recognize China's ownership in SCS. after WWII, those islands handed over from Japan to China. there were many maps in China showed those islands where found and mapped by Chinese in 600 years ago if not even earlier to 1000 years ago.

from history and UN point of views, those belong to China. how to protect Chinese claim? by power! Philippine is still trying hard to prove what they claim, can not protect what they claim.

The fact, China is dislinking US and other countries from SCS dispute water. so far, the situation is at Chinese favor, China is blowing Philippine little by little out of SCS water. USA lost voice at this moment.


Philippine lost:
1) lost some control out of SCS islands, if the tension continue, the speed will accelerate.
2) lost political supports. No other countries stand up behind Philippine. even USA is stepping back.
3) economically Philippine enjoys trade surplus from China. China had banned sending thousands of visitors to Philippine, cutting imports from Philippine, cutting investment to Philippine,,,,
4) as I know, China is building more ships, include war ships and tighten control over SCS, Philippine is on the priority list.

Fighting against China in SCS is a missing impossible for all small countries.
Will US helps? no, it will only make the case worse.
Vietnam invited US over, guess what, look at this map,
it is the price for Vietnam, China starts oil drilling from the noise of Vietnam.


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You are liar.
By the San francisco conference 1951, UN voting is rejected such proposal.
Islands Parasel and Spratly belong to Vietnam from ancient time.
 
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The logic is simple. In order to insult us, the Vietnamese posted that photo, so we just have to fight back.
 
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i request all chinese memebers refrain from posting such pictures , if the viet trolls did it just report to the mod, all chinese members please you have to understand these viet trolls are uneducated with no self respect , just dont get down to their level
 
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i request all chinese memebers refrain from posting such pictures , if the viet trolls did it just report to the mod, all chinese members please you have to understand these viet trolls are uneducated with no self respect , just dont get down to their level

all of non-Chinese and non-Viet just have a look pictures which are post and judge who is more uneducated, who is more disgusting ??? your cm make me laugh again with the famous funny statement "... small nation like Phillipine don't bully big nation like China.... " :yahoo: very very funny...nobody except Chinese can think such logic.....ha...ha..
 
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i request all chinese memebers refrain from posting such pictures , if the viet trolls did it just report to the mod, all chinese members please you have to understand these viet trolls are uneducated with no self respect , just dont get down to their level

He he, Chinese guys posted such photos first on PDF about Sino Vietnam war by June 2011. Don't lying.

why respond to those disgusting monkeys? let them post as much as they want

What kind of animal you like to say about you ? Chimps ?
 
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