China Should Either Make Peace With India Or Forget About CPEC

[JOEY TRIBIANI]

One thing I believe in is when the next time India and Pakistan are on the brink of war, China will quickly jump in and make Pakistan toe the line and defuse tension. As they won't want their investments to go down the drain.

Or maybe they move their military at border to put india in limit .

 

[GURU DUTT]

You are just talking about future. That India is a super power. However Super power state like as US also feeling economical problem. What you are talking about that all r just facts.

India has 363 million (or 29.5percent) people under the poverty line based on a survey of 2011-12, as against 407 million.
India holds the distinction of having the most number of poor of the world – a super poor nation! Consequently, South Asia has become the world’s biggest center of extreme poverty. On the World Bank’s extreme poverty line of 1.25 dollars a day, there are roughly 500 million extreme poor in South Asia, followed by 400 million in sub Saharan Africa. The chart below clearly shows the global poverty trends since 1981.

Given the multitude of languages, customs, cultures and “castes” in India, the reasons for poverty are also numerous and intertwined. Here an attempt is made to highlight 8 important reasons for high poverty in India. However, one message is very clear: One has to look at poverty, beyond income.

India's achievements after 70 years of Independence:

Cow urine is more expensive than cow Milk in Incredible India.

Cow slaughter is a crime in India.

Rap3 capital of the world

over 400,000 girls rap3d & 10000s of cases go unreported.

actual rape videos are on sale in India.

minorities live a life worse than stray dogs as they are deemed untouchable. fuh!ing how a person is untouchable ????

Out of 1.2 billion,

65% people live in slums

55% don't even have water & electricity connections

Home to quarter of the world's poorest people

65% people p00p in open

5 people die of hunger every minute

Now who wants to live in this cessp00l called India !!

You have to realize without solving internal problem you can't race with others. As oppose to the Western capitalism India needs a comprehensive “development” plan in order to really crush widespread poverty. It needs an economy that supports millions of small and medium enterprises; it will be suitable to employ low skilled poor people. Focus on good governance to root out deep rooted corruption that eats away major chunk of the welfare budget.

Finally, promote women empowerment through education and healthcare; it will greatly help deal with poverty fed by the population growth. NOw if u make 100 industries without solving this issue , nothing will happen.

well as per latest reorts we have 26.5% of our population under poverty line but still is a huge number but that bieng said what about the other 73.5% of which only.5% is super rich and 3% in higher middle class 30-33% is middle class while the rest is lower middle income class but we are at least working hard to improove nothing become better obver night but as ususal your inferiorty complex towards india only makes you see owr weaknesses so you can find sarcasstic fun and carres you bruised ego with it

but the world powers dont think like that and thas the main reason why every nation or every power who has money to invest is investing its hard earned moeny in india and we are gaining stregnth each passing day despite the constant fear of potential two front war by china & pakistan but still it has not made any investors investing in india ... ever winderred why

Sir, you should ask your businessmen before you ask me. You might get a much clearer answer. 1: The Indian trucking industry will boom to a new height.
2: Its not just about China, its about the Central Russian states, Russia, Africa, Europe, etc, that you can go to, through this initiative that India can't on her own (or at-least through a proper road network).
3: Indian products and services will probably triple up from Pakistan to Central Asian countries to China, meaning billions of additional dollars.

If you are so rich that you don't want these extra dozens of billions and have a potential new consumer base of close to 1.6-2 billion people, than obviously nothing I can explain would help here. Thanks

what if i told you im from a buissness aggarwal baniya family who are traditionaly a trading class as per indian caste system since ages and know how buisness works and we dont have any great buisness with central asia as total population of entire central asia is just over 5 corore people what we want from there is oil , natural gas , lithium,copper , tin , sulphur , phosphorus , gypsum , uranium and some other minerals which right now we are getting from other sources in south so we are not loosing any sleep over link to central asia if pakistan and china agree to it then good but even if they dont we have chabahar so dont worry we might be late but we are getting there ... cheers mate

 

[JOEY TRIBIANI]

Bro don't get agitated I was just curious nothing more, I even though for a moment that the shining new highways will be a boon for our cold start doctrine

Hey ! Gawadar is operational . .

 

[Major d1]

well as per latest reorts we have 26.5% of our population under poverty line but still is a huge number but that bieng said what about the other 73.5% of which only.5% is super rich and 3% in higher middle class 30-33% is middle class while the rest is lower middle income class but we are at least working hard to improove nothing become better obver night but as ususal your inferiorty complex towards india only makes you see owr weaknesses so you can find sarcasstic fun and carres you bruised ego with it

but the world powers dont think like that and thas the main reason why every nation or every power who has money to invest is investing its hard earned moeny in india and we are gaining stregnth each passing day despite the constant fear of potential two front war by china & pakistan but still it has not made any investors investing in india ... ever winderred why

Where you can't solve your internal problem then how could you think you will able to solve your external problems Yes u could do that diplomatically , what doesn't sustain for a long time. Indian govt. should give concern to the industries types of things where they 1st can reduce poverty problem in the same time increase manufacturing companies.

India isn't a iland- that they will stay alone. Either they have to fight with its neighbor or have to compromise with peaceful talk. In these terms india will get help from the west , As u said IMF , they will take from u huge interest , and u will obey to give. This is how india will improve day by day.

Here we are not talking about indian military strength. In my observation, indian military also weak, but i dn't underestimate them.

 

[GURU DUTT]

Where you can't solve your internal problem then how could you think you will able to solve your external problems Yes u could do that diplomatically , what doesn't sustain for a long time. Indian govt. should give concern to the industries types of things where they 1st can reduce poverty problem in the same time increase manufacturing companies.

India isn't a iland- that they will stay alone. Either they have to fight with its neighbor or have to compromise with peaceful talk. In these terms india will get help from the west , As u said IMF , they will take from u huge interest , and u will obey to give. This is how india will improve day by day.

Here we are not talking about indian military strength. In my observation, indian military also weak, but i dn't underestimate them.

we will talk to who we think is in our intersts and when we want to no one can force his will onto us and if you think indian militarry is weak whome so ever wants to take a chance can take it we are more than ready for any eventuality

 

[SDS1]

You are just talking about future. That India is a super power. However Super power state like as US also feeling economical problem. What you are talking about that all r just facts.

India has 363 million (or 29.5percent) people under the poverty line based on a survey of 2011-12, as against 407 million.
India holds the distinction of having the most number of poor of the world – a super poor nation! Consequently, South Asia has become the world’s biggest center of extreme poverty. On the World Bank’s extreme poverty line of 1.25 dollars a day, there are roughly 500 million extreme poor in South Asia, followed by 400 million in sub Saharan Africa. The chart below clearly shows the global poverty trends since 1981.

Given the multitude of languages, customs, cultures and “castes” in India, the reasons for poverty are also numerous and intertwined. Here an attempt is made to highlight 8 important reasons for high poverty in India. However, one message is very clear: One has to look at poverty, beyond income.

India's achievements after 70 years of Independence:

Cow urine is more expensive than cow Milk in Incredible India.

Cow slaughter is a crime in India.

Rap3 capital of the world

over 400,000 girls rap3d & 10000s of cases go unreported.

actual rape videos are on sale in India.

minorities live a life worse than stray dogs as they are deemed untouchable. fuh!ing how a person is untouchable ????

Out of 1.2 billion,

65% people live in slums

55% don't even have water & electricity connections

Home to quarter of the world's poorest people

65% people p00p in open

5 people die of hunger every minute

Now who wants to live in this cessp00l called India !!

You have to realize without solving internal problem you can't race with others. As oppose to the Western capitalism India needs a comprehensive “development” plan in order to really crush widespread poverty. It needs an economy that supports millions of small and medium enterprises; it will be suitable to employ low skilled poor people. Focus on good governance to root out deep rooted corruption that eats away major chunk of the welfare budget.

Finally, promote women empowerment through education and healthcare; it will greatly help deal with poverty fed by the population growth. NOw if u make 100 industries without solving this issue , nothing will happen.

would like like to remind you,

A) Selling of Pork banned in Muslims countries
B) Many rapes goes unreported in china, / Muslims countries
C) Some Muslims countries want 5 male witness .....

D) if you try to kill horse and sell its meat will land u in Jail ( US )

lol , some of your numbers already outdated...... If i open it open the pandora box in which u will find less space to hide yourself...

 

[Kyusuibu Honbu]

The author has got it wrong

Its Pakistan who should make peace with India for CPEC to progress unhindered.

Indian support for Baloch insurgents is in response to Pakistan support for Kashmir insurgency.

 

[SBUS-CXK]

lol , may in your dreams, just goto border first and get your rockets their first and then survive for rocket attack...lol chinese and their wild imaginations........ check google ffor range...

Ha ha, I can Google to China's intercontinental ballistic missiles, so you can Google to India intercontinental ballistic missiles? India's best only mouth, "super power" in India. Lol...

 

[Mangus Ortus Novem]

CPEC started decades ago..when China was so poor and hungry... with dynamites and sheer physical hardwork both nations connected through KKH. They built the Road.

There are still graves of the Chinese in Pak, where the fallen Friends are honoured till today.

CPEC is an inclusive development, open to all.

Besides this is just not a transportation network...something far deeper and broader was thought up many decades back. The Chinese are anything if not long term, strategic thinkers who execute their planning with keen dedication.


This physical connecting up with China has given Pak an opportunity to break away from South Asian box and finally become a South Western Asian state that it always has been. Pak's economic future is in NE Asia, Central Asia and ME. All else comes as a bonus.

The integeration into the Chinese economy opens up many vistas of development thus bringing in investors and other stakeholders.

After decades of wasted opportunities, Pak state is finally waking up to what needs to be done. And here is a true Friend at hand to invest and catalyse the accelerated development of Pak.


Give it a decade or so to really unfold for observers to finally see what CPEC really means.


Through Civilisation connection with China a new Socio-economic Paradigm Shift is taking place in Pak... very minute at the moment but over a decade this shift will be more pronounced. Very positive development this.

Pak State and people should not be distracted by troublemakers and continue working diligently with their Chinese brothers to achieve decades old Vision of Friendship.

For the first time in recorded history the integeration of Eurasia is possible through pure peaceful and economic means i.e. OBOR.

CPEC is the flagship of this paradigm of Community of Prosperity.

So to my Sino-Pak Friends, let us not be distracted by anything.

CPEC has just not even finished its first phase yet. Imagine what the second and thrid phase would look like.

Economic integeration with China is strategic imperative of Pak State. It must be pursued at all costs.



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[Rasengan]

@Chinese-Dragon @HAKIKAT @GumNaam @Farah Sohail @django @Rasengan @Beast @MadDog @Divergent1

The only way India can get rid of CPEC is ------

TO COMMIT SUICIDE

Pakistan should finance, train, rearm the Maoist rebels to cause havoc across India. I loved watching their posts being blown to smithereens

 

[Jugger]

CPEC is too much pain for India? Let them do their job. And China wants do business in India. Let them access. India is a country , who have no good relationship with its neighbor countries.

I do not agree, India has good relations with many of its neighbours. This is the reason why saarc got cancelled, counties listen to india.

 

[ohmrlobalobayeh]

http://www.forbes.com/sites/panosmo...with-india-or-forget-about-cpec/#4909aed622ee

China desperately needs the China-Pakistan Economic Corridor (CPEC). It’s part of that nation’s vision to write the rules of the next stage of globalization and help its export and investment engines grow for years to come—a good prospect for investors in Chinese equities, which have been lagging behind of those of neighboring India.

Ranking China India
Population (millions) 1374.62 1254.02
Per Capita GDP ($, Dec2015) 6416 1806
Human Development Index (2015) 90 130
Entrepreneurship Index (2016) 60 98
Economic Freedom Index (2016) 144 123
Index/Fund 12-month Performance 5-year Performance
IShares China (NYSE:FXI) -5.16% 7.5.0%
iShares S&P India 50 (NASDAQ:INDY) 1.0% 32.18%
Source: Finance.yahoo.com 11/26/16

Specifically, CPEC is the express link between Western China, the Middle East, and Africa–China’s second continent. Ideologically that is, which can explain why Beijing has committed $46 billion to the project.

The trouble is that CPEC passes through Pakistani regions claimed by India. That makes it a bumpy road, to say the least — Pakistan and India continue to fight for control of these regions.

That’s why China needs to make peace with India.

So far, China has done very little to appease India. In fact, it has done quite the opposite: repeatedly blocking India’s efforts to join the Nuclear Supplier Group (NSG).

And it has sided openly with Pakistan in the India-Pakistan Kashmir standoff, as evidenced by statements by China’s senior officials on the sidelines of the ongoing 71st session of United Nations General Assembly in New York.

That can explain why India’s has sided with the US in the South China Sea disputes, as previously discussed here.

And things could turn worse, if pro-Indian forces in Pakistan sabotage China’s CEPC route.

That raises the possibility of an open confrontation between China and Pakistan on the one side, and India and its allies on the other.

Is China ready for this scenario? Probably not. That’s why Beijing should either appease New Delhi or forget about CEPC altogether.

Excellent thoughts.

Yes i agree- India is so powerful that the Chinese have to be afraid of her wrathful might to appease her and beg for Bharata's benevolent mercy.

It's the new world order in South Asia i guess. No projects or ports like Gwadar, Hambadota, Kyaukpyu or Sonadia ever goes through without Hindustan's consent.

In other words, CPEC's not happening with India's permission.

 

[xyxmt]

One thing I believe in is when the next time India and Pakistan are on the brink of war, China will quickly jump in and make Pakistan toe the line and defuse tension. As they won't want their investments to go down the drain.

or they will support Pakistan with everything to end this once and for all, The Gawadar China Gas Pipeline is dual purpose

I do not agree, India has good relations with many of its neighbours. This is the reason why saarc got cancelled, counties listen to india.

Three listened to you and three listened to Pakistan, once again you two countries hold equal weight

 

[SDS1]

Ha ha, I can Google to China's intercontinental ballistic missiles, so you can Google to India intercontinental ballistic missiles? India's best only mouth, "super power" in India. Lol...

lol .. you can google Indian ICBM , one is enough to designate your country, apart from that India has plane based bombs also....

for China india dont need ICBM, IRBM is enough, dont know in which planet u study .

 

[ito]

Excellent thoughts.

Yes i agree- India is so powerful that the Chinese have to be afraid of her wrathful might to appease her and beg for Bharata's benevolent mercy.

It's the new world order in South Asia i guess. No projects or ports like Gwadar, Hambadota, Kyaukpyu or Sonadia ever goes through without Hindustan's consent.

In other words, CPEC's not happening with India's permission.

Is that you?

By the way why is a Singaporean interested in something that doesn't concern him. Are you a Pakistani?