China says Indonesian navy shot at Chinese fishermen
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Indonesia searches for solution on China
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The Indonesian government is holding discussions with marine legal experts about renewed tensions in the disputed South China Sea, saying it wishes to remain friends with China but will not forsake its sovereignty.
Fears have emerged that China may be trying to corner Indonesia and drag them into the the conflict over the contested region with a third confrontation over allegations of illegal fishing in the Natuna sea within as many months.
While a number of Indonesia's neighbours - including the Philippines, Vietnam and Malaysia - are locked in a territorial dispute with China over the South China Sea, Indonesia has sought to remain neutral.
But the latest showdown between the Indonesia navy and Chinese vessels in Natuna, off the north of the archipelago, has left it questioning how to maintain their friendship with China while protecting their rights over what it says is its exclusive economic zone (EEZ).
Security Minister Luhut Panjaitan said it will never "acknowledge" China's claim the waters are its traditional fishing ground.
"There's no reason for Indonesia to have problems with China because Indonesia is actually in a position where everything is clear - the EEZ - is clear," he said on Monday.
"We want to be a neighbour, to have a good relationship with China without sacrificing our sovereignty."
His ministry, the foreign ministry, the military and the navy are now holding discussions with international marine legal experts to try and find the "best solution", Mr Panjaitan said.
According to the Indonesian Foreign Ministry, up to 12 foreign fishing vessels were spotted throwing nets in Natuna waters at around 4.30am on Friday.
Upon seeing the navy, the vessels allegedly tried to flee. They were told to stop and turn off their engines.
When they did not, a warning shot was fired into the air, Indonesia says.
Indonesia alleges the vessels nearly crashed into the navy ship while retreating but one was caught around six hours later.
Seven crew, including one woman, have been detained by the navy - despite a Chinese coastguard coming into Natuna waters and asking Indonesia to release them.
Investigations into the vessel are ongoing, with two tonnes of suspected illegally caught fish found aboard the Chinese ship.
It comes after two similar confrontations with Chinese boats caught allegedly trawling in the same waters in March and May this year.
Hasjim Djalal, a former UN ambassador and senior adviser to the Indonesian minister for maritime affairs, said he was concerned the recent incident indicates an attempt by China to "corner" Indonesia.
"China is in dispute with the Philippines, with Vietnam, with Malaysia and Brunei ... it seems that China might be trying to drag Indonesia into this dispute," he said after talking with the government on Monday.
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The Indonesian government is holding discussions with marine legal experts about renewed tensions in the disputed South China Sea, saying it wishes to remain friends with China but will not forsake its sovereignty.
Fears have emerged that China may be trying to corner Indonesia and drag them into the the conflict over the contested region with a third confrontation over allegations of illegal fishing in the Natuna sea within as many months.
While a number of Indonesia's neighbours - including the Philippines, Vietnam and Malaysia - are locked in a territorial dispute with China over the South China Sea, Indonesia has sought to remain neutral.
But the latest showdown between the Indonesia navy and Chinese vessels in Natuna, off the north of the archipelago, has left it questioning how to maintain their friendship with China while protecting their rights over what it says is its exclusive economic zone (EEZ).
Security Minister Luhut Panjaitan said it will never "acknowledge" China's claim the waters are its traditional fishing ground.
"There's no reason for Indonesia to have problems with China because Indonesia is actually in a position where everything is clear - the EEZ - is clear," he said on Monday.
"We want to be a neighbour, to have a good relationship with China without sacrificing our sovereignty."
His ministry, the foreign ministry, the military and the navy are now holding discussions with international marine legal experts to try and find the "best solution", Mr Panjaitan said.
According to the Indonesian Foreign Ministry, up to 12 foreign fishing vessels were spotted throwing nets in Natuna waters at around 4.30am on Friday.
Upon seeing the navy, the vessels allegedly tried to flee. They were told to stop and turn off their engines.
When they did not, a warning shot was fired into the air, Indonesia says.
Indonesia alleges the vessels nearly crashed into the navy ship while retreating but one was caught around six hours later.
Seven crew, including one woman, have been detained by the navy - despite a Chinese coastguard coming into Natuna waters and asking Indonesia to release them.
Investigations into the vessel are ongoing, with two tonnes of suspected illegally caught fish found aboard the Chinese ship.
It comes after two similar confrontations with Chinese boats caught allegedly trawling in the same waters in March and May this year.
Hasjim Djalal, a former UN ambassador and senior adviser to the Indonesian minister for maritime affairs, said he was concerned the recent incident indicates an attempt by China to "corner" Indonesia.
"China is in dispute with the Philippines, with Vietnam, with Malaysia and Brunei ... it seems that China might be trying to drag Indonesia into this dispute," he said after talking with the government on Monday.
© AAP 2016
Read more at http://www.9news.com.au/world/2016/...hes-for-solution-on-china#mFO72tLaOxvVpS3r.99
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I don't know that ,but how about now.
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We know they are not far, but waiting for some good timing to sink some ships.
Well, Chinese navy can sink your whole country in no time.
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Indonesia slams China's 'traditional fishing ground' claims
Tensions between the two countries are high after the Indonesian navy fired warning shots at Chinese fishing vessels in waters off Natuna islands last week.
Indonesian Minister of Maritime Affairs and Fisheries Susi Pudjiastuti told reporters at a press conference that China had previously said it had no issues with Indonesia. She said this meant that Beijing respected Indonesia’s sovereignty and its Exclusive Economic Zone.
Recently, China had defended its actions by saying that it was operating in "traditional Chinese fishing grounds". But according to the minister Susi, the two countries do not have any maritime agreements to cooperate within a specified territory, and so Chinese fishing vessels would be treated like any other boat caught fishing illegally in the country’s waters.
"We are not aware of it, we don’t know of its existence and we don’t acknowledge anybody’s claims which say that there is a traditional fishing zone in Indonesia’s Exclusive Economic Zone; except in one territory which we have signed upon in agreement with Malaysia, the Strait of Malacca,” she said.
http://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/asiapacific/indonesia-slams-china/2891416.html
Please don't steal... OOO mighty China
If you're so desperate to get fish supply, buy from us.. we would gladly export it to you 
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Tensions between the two countries are high after the Indonesian navy fired warning shots at Chinese fishing vessels in waters off Natuna islands last week.
Indonesian Minister of Maritime Affairs and Fisheries Susi Pudjiastuti told reporters at a press conference that China had previously said it had no issues with Indonesia. She said this meant that Beijing respected Indonesia’s sovereignty and its Exclusive Economic Zone.
Recently, China had defended its actions by saying that it was operating in "traditional Chinese fishing grounds". But according to the minister Susi, the two countries do not have any maritime agreements to cooperate within a specified territory, and so Chinese fishing vessels would be treated like any other boat caught fishing illegally in the country’s waters.
"We are not aware of it, we don’t know of its existence and we don’t acknowledge anybody’s claims which say that there is a traditional fishing zone in Indonesia’s Exclusive Economic Zone; except in one territory which we have signed upon in agreement with Malaysia, the Strait of Malacca,” she said.
http://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/asiapacific/indonesia-slams-china/2891416.html
Please don't steal... OOO mighty China
If you're so desperate to get fish supply, buy from us.. we would gladly export it to you .
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In response to the latest incident, China’s Foreign Ministry Spokesperson Hua Chunying said China strongly protested against Indonesia’s actions and condemned the detention of the crew.
Hua said the fishermen were “harassed” by and shot at by the Indonesian navy during their “regular fishing operation”, and that China had immediately dispatched coastguard vessels nearby to protect the fishing boat and the crew.
“The Indonesian naval warship has abused their force, to harass and shoot at the Chinese fishing boat and has threatened the safety and property of the Chinese fishermen,” she said.
“This has seriously violated the United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea [UNCLOS] and the Declaration on the Conduct of Parties in the South China Sea,” she said.
Hua said the fishermen were “harassed” by and shot at by the Indonesian navy during their “regular fishing operation”, and that China had immediately dispatched coastguard vessels nearby to protect the fishing boat and the crew.
“The Indonesian naval warship has abused their force, to harass and shoot at the Chinese fishing boat and has threatened the safety and property of the Chinese fishermen,” she said.
“This has seriously violated the United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea [UNCLOS] and the Declaration on the Conduct of Parties in the South China Sea,” she said.
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Isn't that what they usually do? From the 3 incidents this year, China CG always there protecting the illegal fishing boats. Fortunatelly our CG and other patrol ships able to ward off the China CG and seized the illegal fishing boats. Hooray
No you dont. Those you seized has no escort. Didn't a recent incident our coast guard ram your boat and free our fisherman? I think Indonesian mess with the wrong one. The Chinese will send a bigger coast guard fleet and a huge fisherman fleet to prove something.
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That's the 1st incident (march). On the 2nd (may) and the last incident (june), we were able to reverse the situation. Hooray...
And China CG didn't ram our patrol boat in the 1st incident. But they rammed and destroyed the captured chinese fishing boat.
Self comforting... You stir the hornet nest and Indonesia need to pay the price.
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