China rolls out AWACS aircrafts for Pakistan Air Force

[fatman17]

It is really a game changer in south asia, 6-10 AWACS, 72 F-16 with AMMRAMs, 250 JF-17 with SD-10 plus J10s. Its a very formidable force and its narrowing the gap between PAF & IAF.

qualitatively maybe, but not quantity-wise - IAF wld like to maintain a 3:1 advantage in numbers.

 

[rockstarIN]

qualitatively maybe, but not quantity-wise - IAF wld like to maintain a 3:1 advantage in numbers.

Pakistan-India-China = 1:3:6

 

[fatman17]

mods wld be better to 'merge' these zdk-03 threads

 

[Donatello]

qualitatively maybe, but not quantity-wise - IAF wld like to maintain a 3:1 advantage in numbers.

Well, actually the ratio would be 2.5 to 1 in case of IAF vs PAF.

for 3:1, IAF would need upwards of 900 combat jets.

PAF outlook:-

250 Jf-17s
70 F-16s...that alone is 320.
Add 36 J-10s or more.......so for 3:1 ratio IAF needs 1000 jets.

With MIG 21/23/27 retiring, 126 MMRCA coming up.....they will be well short of 1000 combat jets.


just my thought!

 

[rockstarIN]

200 LCA+280 MKI+126MMRCA+69Mig-29+51Mirage2000+250 FGFA/PAK FA = 976

Or lets catch 40 sqdns = 820 thts it. (no IN)

Just my thinking, not sure the timeline of most of the above.

 

[farhan_9909]

So the PAk china awac deal is a JV?
like jf-17...

or this is purely chineese made and only pakistani funded?

 

[Aamir Hussain]

Some info on Y8F600


Y-8F600

The Y-8F600 is the latest development variant of the Y-8. The aircraft was developed under the assistance of Ukraine-based Antonov Aeronautical Scientific-Technical Complex (ASTC) and Pratt and Whitney Canada. The Y-8F600 configured to provide an aerial platform for airborne early warning aircraft and other special purposes is referred to as “Category-III Platform”. The aircraft made its first flight on 14 January 2005.



KJ-200 AEW&C aircraft based on the Y-8F600 airframe (Chinese Internet)

Based on the successful Shaanxi Y-8 series transport aircraft, the Y-8F600 has been extensively modified and upgraded with Western technologies including turboprop engine and avionics. The development programme began in 1999, with two foreign partners Ukraine-based Antonov Aeronautical Scientific-Technical Complex (ASTC) and Pratt and Whitney Canada joining the programme in 2000~2002. Under the contract signed in 2002, Shaanxi and Antonov shall jointly design, assemble prototypes, certify and put into series the new Y-8F600 transport, while P&W was responsible for providing its PW150B engine to power the aircraft.

A risks-sharing partner under the programme, Antonov provided Shaanxi with the results of rigidity and aerodynamic research, as well as documents on aircraft maintainability and service life. It also designed the new wing with fuel tanks and developed technology to build it. Antonov would also share its technical data and experience with Shaanxi, and was involved in the test of the aircraft. The first flight of the Y-8F600 was made successfully on 14 January 2005.

The Y-8F600 is also referred to by Shaanxi and the PLA as “Category-III Platform”, which would provide an advanced aerial platform for special purposes such as airborne early warning (AEW/AWACS), electronic warfare and intelligence (EW/ELINT), maritime patrol, etc. The terms of Category-I and -II platforms are used to refer to the aerial platforms developed from the Y-8 basic variant and Y-8C fully-pressurised variant respectively. The successful development of the Y-8F600 was seen as a significant achievement for Shaanxi.

The Y-8F600 features an advanced two-man ‘glass’ cockpit. As well as basic flight avionics, the aircraft is equipped with datalink, flight management and control, and near ground warning system.

The Y-8F600 is powered by four P&W PB150B turboprop engines. The all-composite six-blade R-408 propeller system was developed by British Dodi company. This arrangement offers improved take-off performance at "hot and high" airports and high altitude cruise performance, extended engine service lives, and lower engine operating and maintenance costs. In addition, noise levels will be reduced and meet stringent airport noise restrictions. The aircraft maximum take-off weight is increased to 65t.

Y-8 Special Purpose Variants

Y-8X – Maritime patrol, tactical reconnaissance and surveillance
Y-8J – Maritime surveillance and anti-ship missile targeting, with British Skymaster radar
Y-8 “Gaxin No.1” – Electronic warfare
Y-8 “Gaxin No.2” – Electronic intelligence
Y-8 “Gaxin No.3” – Communication relay
YG-8 “Gaxin No.4” – Stand-off electronic countermeasures
KJ200 – Airborne early warning and control (AEW&C), known as “Gaxin No.5”
Y-8 “Gaxin No.7” – Unknown purpose EW/ELINT aircraft
Y-8 AEW - Rotodome airborne early warning

 

[SBD-3]

After this awacs i think pakistan should concentrate on turish awacs and blend turkish(western) and chinese awacs together and bring somthing more advance then any of this platform in future .

......what do you think, are we working of "AWACS collection"

P.S, Wedgetail is Though Used by TuAF is US AWACS manufactured by NrtGr and Boeing

 

[Fact_ur_mine]

can some one comape to indan awac on techincal base

---------- Post added at 10:12 AM ---------- Previous post was at 10:11 AM ----------

can some one compare to indan awac on techincal base

You could open a new thread for it, otherwise this could get polluted, (mostly comparison threads).

BTW Congrats pakistan, much needed bird is in inventory.

 

[S.U.R.B.]

Karakorum Eagle is a nice name.

God bless PAF.

 

[nomi007]

thanks GOD
1st delivery of Chinese AWACS has been completed.
this will open a new era of cooperation between two brotherhood countries

 

[Dazzler]

I mentioned it will be equipped with "DISH" instead of beam Where are those who were claiming it to be the one equipped with beam?? What are their thoughts now?

 

[cloneman]

Congratulations to the Pakistani Air Force!

 

[SQ8]

I think the matter of blade vs dish was cleared up in the press as well somewhere..Which also makes for an interesting debate.. have the Chinese added frontal lobes in this system.. meaning....true 360 coverage?
Which means in any further editions of Alan Warnes book..that warrants correction .

 

[Windjammer]