China removes top leadership contender Bo Xilai from post

[WS-10 Engine]

I heard America gave our gold back with tungsten in them in 2009.
Is this true?

 

[shuttler]

薄熙来是中共元老薄一波之子，跟习仲勋之子、国家副主席习近平一样，被视为太子党。个性张扬的薄熙来颇具政治野心，为达目的不择手段，他为了晋升政治局常委，在重庆大搞“唱红打黑”运动，尤其“打黑”被戏称为“黑打”，许多受害人或嫌疑犯遭严刑逼供或抄家，下重手的结果是将前任市委书记汪洋、贺国强的左右手打入大牢，严打29个黑帮、关押2千多名公务员，因此树敌无数。

传私生活荒淫

其实他备受争议的行事风格从幼年即显露端倪，文革期间，薄熙来是红卫兵组织“联动”成员，宣扬“老子英雄儿好汉，老子反动儿溷蛋”的“血统论”，常带人抄家，期间更响应造反派的“革命潮流”，声明和被打为反革命的父亲断绝关系，并带头对父亲施暴，导致薄一波三根肋骨骨折，母亲胡明则在文革期间自杀。

关于他私生活荒淫无度的传闻也未断过，据说早年他在大连任职时，有一回大连市高官找模特儿饮酒寻欢，薄熙来与一名模特儿发生关系，由于性爱过程粗暴、激烈，他将模特儿乳头都咬烂，此事引起香港《文汇报》驻大连记者姜维平的愤慨，姜后来因揭露薄熙来在辽宁贪腐桉例，被薄下令判刑8年。

夫妻海捞375亿

薄熙来高调招摇，他家人也不低调。薄与前妻李丹宇育有一子李望知，与现在妻子谷开来育有一子薄瓜瓜。“红三代”薄瓜瓜目前在美国哈佛大学就读。外界咸认薄瓜瓜是花花公子。媒体曾刊登他到夜店玩乐、开红色法拉利跑车，他曾追求过中共元老陈云的孙女陈晓丹等，花边传闻不断。谷开来更被批评靠丈夫的关系四处捞钱，据传薄在调任重庆前，夫妻俩已累积了约375亿元台币财富，并将大部分移转到国外。

I have several of these gossiping books about "中共太子党 " " 江系人馬" "胡溫鬥爭" "中南海黑幕" ..which one are you quoting from?

 

[FairAndUnbiased]

I heard America gave our gold back with tungsten in them in 2009.
Is this true?

i have no idea about that, but i posted an article here exposing how Deng Xiaoping with the explicit support of Jiang Zemin sent our 600 ton gold reserves overseas in 1990. Starting in 2004, right after he came to power, Hu started building up China's own secret domestic reserves at 400 tons, and only announced it in 2009 after we got all our gold back.

Before Hu Jintao came to office, owning gold was illegal. Why? Because the princelings and elitist regime wanted people to be forced to accept inflationary USD pegged RMB. After Hu came to office, he encouraged everyone to buy gold, increased our gold reserves and even set up gold markets, while unpegging RMB from USD.

 

[oct605032048]

Very interesting progress. 消藩之后 是不是接着平定台湾啊, After all that's what Emperor Kangxi did.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

I have several of these gossiping books about "中共太子党 " " 江系人馬" "胡溫鬥爭" "中南海黑幕" ..which one are you quoting from?

From 阿波罗网.

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[shuttler]

i have no idea about that, but i posted an article here exposing how Deng Xiaoping with the explicit support of Jiang Zemin sent our 600 ton gold reserves overseas in 1990. Starting in 2004, right after he came to power, Hu started building up China's own secret domestic reserves at 400 tons, and only announced it in 2009 after we got all our gold back.

You have missed a big opportunity not to sell the news to NY Times for some good bucks, dude!

 

[oceanx]

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The princelings are the enemy of China. They pegged the RMB to the USD, they sold our gold reserves, and it was up to Hu to unpeg the RMB and get our gold back. Only the tuanpai cares about China's financial independence. The princelings will take away all your rights and take away all your welfare, and peg the RMB to USD so foreigners can loot the country with impunity.

What is this partisan spiel with innuendos and wild statements? People understand the problem with the 1%. Yes the princelings are no longer the "vanguard of the proletariat" (heck never were), but neither were the Hus and Wens.

Were they not all corrupt? Life does suck. The East is corrupt, the West has the 1%. The Mullahs are greedy, the Asads spit in your face and say "let them eat cake", and the Custodians - we won't even go there. So the elites of every country are corrupt in 2012 on this green earth!

Everybody else is the 99%.

I sure am no fan of any factions of the CCP. But can we have facts over hysteria here? Guess not.

 

[shuttler]

From 阿波罗网.

Many thanks! I'll give the money of buying these books to charity!

 

[FairAndUnbiased]

You have missed a big opportunity not to sell the news to NY Times for some good bucks, dude!

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[ChineseTiger1986]

Very interesting progress. 消藩之后 是不是接着平定台湾啊, After all that's what Emperor Kangxi did.

由帝都的太子党来掌权，看来是要武统了

 

[FairAndUnbiased]

What is this partisan spiel with innuendos and wild statements? People understand the problem with the 1%. Yes the princelings are no longer the "vanguard of the proletariat" (heck never were), but neither were the Hus and Wens.

Were they not all corrupt? Life does suck. The East is corrupt, the West has the 1%. The Mullahs are greedy, the Asads spit in your face and say "let them eat cake", and the Custodians - we won't even go there. So the elites of every country are corrupt in 2012 on this green earth!

Everybody else is the 99%.

I sure am no fan of any factions of the CCP. But can we have facts over hysteria here? Guess not.

all elites are corrupt, but some are corrupt and helpful but others are corrupt and destructive.

some elites treat the population like sheep: they must grow fat, they must grow wool, so i can sheer their wool off and make money.

some elites treat the population like cows: they must grow fat, they must make milk, and if they get old, i sell their meat.

the worst elites treat the population like pigs: they are meat.

 

[oceanx]

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Gold does not feed you, clothe you, or shelter you.

How much gold did the Inca have?

"Steel" (in a figurative sense) is more important than gold.

the worst elites treat the population like pigs: they are meat.

Elaborate on that ... so in your mind the princelings treat the 99% like pigs? How so? The gold argument I already do not buy.

 

[oct605032048]

由帝都的太子党来掌权，看来是要武统了

大棒在手 温言在口

 

[FairAndUnbiased]

Gold does not feed you, clothe you, or shelter you.

How much gold did the Inca have?




Elaborate on that ... so in your mind the princelings treat the 99% like pigs? How so? The gold argument I already do not buy.
"Steel" (in a figurative sense) is more important than gold.

Gold reserves are very important because they stabilize a country's currency value and prevent it from losing value beyond a certain floor. They are the foreign reserves of last resort and are one of the most solid investments in history - a gram of gold has maintained approximately the same purchasing power from 500 BC (by Roman records) to now. In a world where the financial system of all countries has built in inflation, gold is the investment that stays.

The princelings are destructive elites who loot the country's resources in corruption (as all elites do) but with the sin of not investing it back into the country. Sending their children off to high class Western schools is, nationally, a far greater tragedy than if they blew it all at a casino or spent it on an orgy. It is a direct transfer from the collective poor to the collective rich and permanently removes capital from the country.

If they spent it on an orgy, for example, it would be a redistribution of wealth from rich officials to poorer prostitutes, who could then spend this money on cell phones, health checks, gym membership, clothes and makeup to increase their efficiency, which stimulates the electronics, medical, services, textiles and chemical industries, which stimulates the financial sector, which leads to higher tax revenue, which leads to even more revenue for rich officials to steal and spend...

But they spent it on Harvard.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

大棒在手 温言在口

不错，很像习的外交风格