China removes top leadership contender Bo Xilai from post

[oceanx]

You probably forget to mention that he (with the help from Wang Lijun) killed thousands without proper legal procedures under the name of crashing organized crime. What if one of the killed but turned out to be innocent is one of your parents, children, relatives, friends, other beloved ones?

His “singing red, crushing black” is very much Cultural Revolution like. Perhaps people do not have a problem to make hospital transparent, do not have a problem to clean up the corruption. But those things can’t hide the fact that Mr. Bo himself is a dictator in display, his family is probably corrupted. Don’t call this is American plot when WSJ exposed his son dating Huntsman’s daughter with a car that can cost his father 20 years salary. If this is the fact, then it is the fact.

The downfall of Mr. Bo doesn’t have to mean good things he proposed have to go.

He’s handling of the attorney case (I forget the defendent's name, who is a businessman) uses lying in the court, faking evidence to the court, suppressing the voice of attorneys. He himself behaves like an organized crime ring. All those are crime that disrespect the laws, make fun of the laws, treat the laws as joke, as trash the laws like garbage. My friend: all these crimes deserve very severe punishment in USA. And we haven’t heard any of his running jackals have got punished yet, so far.

The existance of damage from Cultural Revolution and Holocaust is a fact. No use to deny it.

Now that I have a bit more time than this morning, Pit boss, will you please educate this pupil? How did Bo wantonly dispatch thousands in a city like Chongqing without arousing at least some scrutiny, while in the not terribly far away countryside of Kham, every single tragedy of a monk or a nun setting self-alight was an instant international headline?

Shouldn't I be calling NATO airstrike on this Boshar?

BTW, let's not get worked up on what a piece of neo-con rag like WSJ says about anything - on him or his family. I don't read it and I don't care for it.

But I would appreciate someone giving me a more "balanced" overview on exactly what this warlord "achieved" in Chongqing on behalf of "everyman" while rubbishing due process along the way. I confess that I haven't paid as much attention as I should to his exploits or notoriety other than passing glances in blogs here and there.

 

[ephone]

First, you should know that getting admitted to top schools nowadays in U.S. is much easier than 10 to 15 years ago due to various reasons.

To be honest, I have written some recommendations for some of my students, both Chinese or American, who later go to the top graduate schools or transfer to a top universities. Assessing their abilities, I think there will be no way for them, at least for the Chinese students, to be even considered by a 2nd tier U.S. University 15 years ago, e.g. Texas A&M, UC Riverside, or SUNY stony brook.

Second, about Jiang Zeming's son's U.S. education, you should know that during Jiang's era, Jiang was surprisingly selected as the top leader in China. Nobody would have expected him to be picked as the top leader. BTW, by the time he was picked, his son already was in U.S. to get his education. However, I bet Jiang's grandson or grand daughter definitely can go to Harvard or similar schools since by then his reach in U.S. is way more deeper than 20 years ago.

Moreover, not many prince-ling then went to U.S. for their education then, e.g. Xi Jinping, Wang Qishan and etc all got their education in China.

It is Hu, Wen, Xi, Bo and Wang's next generation that went to U.S. more and more. U.S. caters to this generation of prince-ling more and more, give their children more and more favors for them to get into the top U.S. schools. Just like for Harvard, the big donator's son/daughter can get in without any problems. Let alone U.S. wants to use the western institutions to influence the next gen's China powerful people.

Not really. It may not be true in Beida (Peking) Qinghua (Tsinghua) or the likes either and not in the Ivy leagues in the states. And to get a full scholarship proves something rather substantial IMO. Top tier graduate schools in US are the most competitive in admission and equally difficult to get good grades.

Actually I was arguing about the likelihood of getting "favours" for Bo GG's studies with ephone.
Zhang ZM was the most powerful man in China when his son was admiited to Drexel - a humble
university in the mid west. Power and admission to a college of you choice could have played a part in the case of GW Bush but remotely likely in the case of academic pursuits of Bo's son. End of my debate.

 

[FairAndUnbiased]

Now that I have a bit more time than this morning, Pit boss, will you please educate this pupil? How did Bo wantonly dispatch thousands in a city like Chongqing without arousing at least some scrutiny, while in the not terribly far away countryside of Kham, every single tragedy of a monk or a nun setting self-alight was an instant international headline?

Shouldn't I be calling NATO airstrike on this Boshar?

BTW, let's not get worked up on what a piece of neo-con rag like WSJ says about anything - on him or his family. I don't read it and I don't care for it.

But I would appreciate someone giving me a more "balanced" overview on exactly what this warlord "achieved" in Chongqing on behalf of "everyman" while rubbishing due process along the way. I confess that I haven't paid as much attention as I should to his exploits or notoriety other than passing glances in blogs here and there.

It is simple. I support Bo Xilai, because the Western media demonizes Bo Xilai, therefore he must be doing something right.

Anyone they oppose, we should support. Anyone they support, we should at least be suspicious of. If a country straight up tells you that they hate your guts and wants to annihilate your government, then praises someone in your government, you should be VERY WARY of the person they praise. If they denounce someone in your government, it must mean that they're doing something right.

 

[T-Rex]

It is simple. I support Bo Xilai, because the Western media demonizes Bo Xilai, therefore he must be doing something right.

Anyone they oppose, we should support. Anyone they support, we should at least be suspicious of. If a country straight up tells you that they hate your guts and wants to annihilate your government, then praises someone in your government, you should be VERY WARY of the person they praise. If they denounce someone in your government, it must mean that they're doing something right.

So, Bo is anti west?

 

[FairAndUnbiased]

So, Bo is anti west?

he never even mentioned the West. That's why he's so scary for them. He's doesn't bend backwards for multinationals and treats foreigners like air. He managed to grow Chongqing's GDP at one of the fastest rates in China while REDUCING income inequality. He made the government one of the most transparent in the world and dared publicize information no one else dares publicize. He unashamedly waves the flag, instead of like others who are scared to show their pride. I cannot think of a more competent and qualified leader.

 

[T-Rex]

he never even mentioned the West. That's why he's so scary for them. He's doesn't bend backwards for multinationals and treats foreigners like air. He managed to grow Chongqing's GDP at one of the fastest rates in China while REDUCING income inequality. He made the government one of the most transparent in the world and dared publicize information no one else dares publicize. He unashamedly waves the flag, instead of like others who are scared to show their pride. I cannot think of a more competent and qualified leader.

Then why has he been removed and more importantly who is behind this decision to oust BO?

 

[Sonyuke_Songpaisan]

he never even mentioned the West. That's why he's so scary for them. He's doesn't bend backwards for multinationals and treats foreigners like air. He managed to grow Chongqing's GDP at one of the fastest rates in China while REDUCING income inequality. He made the government one of the most transparent in the world and dared publicize information no one else dares publicize. He unashamedly waves the flag, instead of like others who are scared to show their pride. I cannot think of a more competent and qualified leader.

R U Bo Guagua?

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

So, Bo is anti west?

Not really, he is just a political opportunist, while his policy is socialist, which the West hates it.

Here is his son who was studying in UK.

 

[ephone]

I do not think he is anti-west. At least, he is not even anti-japan.

He got a lot of japanese business into Dalian and Chongqing as well.

So, Bo is anti west?

 

[T-Rex]

Not really, he is just a political opportunitist, while his policy is socialist, which the West hates it.

Here is his son who was studying in UK.

Just amazing! It is so enigmatic! What do you think the implication is for the hawks in the US?

 

[FairAndUnbiased]

R U Bo Guagua?

Son, if I was Bo Guagua I would be enjoying partying with high class British girls in my Ferrari, and not posting here.

 

[oceanx]

It is simple. I support Bo Xilai, because the Western media demonizes Bo Xilai, therefore he must be doing something right.

Anyone they oppose, we should support. Anyone they support, we should at least be suspicious of. If a country straight up tells you that they hate your guts and wants to annihilate your government, then praises someone in your government, you should be VERY WARY of the person they praise. If they denounce someone in your government, it must mean that they're doing something right.

I'm afraid a 5-year old child delivers better ... so bring me a 5-yo child please, since you can't seem to opine anything remotely approaching "fair and unbiased", my "informationalized new man"!

Content, not tripe pls.

This tread is degenerating, I am sensing ...

 

[T-Rex]

Son, if I was Bo Guagua I would be enjoying partying with high class British girls in my Ferrari, and not posting here.

Why would Bo send his son to the west for education? Usually pro-western despotic leaders do this!

 

[oceanx]

Not really, he is just a political opportunitist, while his policy is socialist, which the West hates it.

Here is his son who was studying in UK.

Is this necessary, tiger? Why partake in this degeneracy of posting irrelevant pictures? This really does reflect a cultural revolutioneque small-mindedness.

The thread is about Boshar's politics.

Or so I thought anyway.

 

[oceanx]

he never even mentioned the West. That's why he's so scary for them. He's doesn't bend backwards for multinationals and treats foreigners like air. He managed to grow Chongqing's GDP at one of the fastest rates in China while REDUCING income inequality. He made the government one of the most transparent in the world and dared publicize information no one else dares publicize. He unashamedly waves the flag, instead of like others who are scared to show their pride. I cannot think of a more competent and qualified leader.

So Bosollini made the train less tardy, and lowered the fare. Perhaps took out the mafia while he was at it ...

Granted these are no mean feats. But your usual paeans aside, what did he do concretely? If you can't elaborate just leave it.