China, Pakistan air forces launch joint training exercise

[Thorough Pro]

I believe they are engaged in a "mutual" exercise where they share experiences, work on a common strategy to fight a common enemy.

there are no "boxing" matches between the two friendly forces that one will come out and be declared as a winner and the other one a loser.

Any indication on the outcome of JF-17 vs J-11 dogfight?

 

[Shane]

http://mil.news.sina.com.cn/china/2017-09-26/doc-ifymfcih5516548.shtml

A short Video of ceremony and about exercise:

 

[Falcon26]

Apparently during this exercise, single J-11B beat two JF-17

https://twitter.com/x/status/913421962386407424

 

[HRK]

Apparently during this exercise, single J-11B beat two JF-17

https://twitter.com/x/status/913421962386407424

this is what Google Translation is translating the relevant part

The China-Pakistan Air Force joint training, the pilot Zhu Zhenhua's first confrontation encountered unexpected challenges.

This is a 2 to 2 air combat confrontation, he and his comrades against Pakistan two "Fierce Dragon". However, there was a small situation in the plane before his comrades took off.

2 pairs of 2 into a pair of 2, Zhu Zhenhua did not apply to cancel the confrontation. Fighter lift, he let go of hands and feet, dare to fight, after several rounds of "fighting", and ultimately seize the fleeting fighters to obtain air war victory. "Mr.ZHU, good job!" Hearty confrontation, the Palestinian pilots patted Zhu Zhenhua said, not only for his technical and tactical, more of his body bloody.

Not sure what is written in the tweet where it is mention in article ....

I think Chinese member can help us to understand what is actually written in that Chinese article

 

[Raider 21]

Apparently during this exercise, single J-11B beat two JF-17

https://twitter.com/x/status/913421962386407424

In French : During the Sino-Pakistani "Shaheen VI" exercise, a J-11B beat 2 JF-17s in a 1 vs 2 aerial engagement.

 

[CriticalThought]

this is what Google Translation is translating the relevant part


Not sure what is written in the tweet where it is mention in article ....

I think Chinese member can help us to understand what is actually written in that Chinese article

Using bing translator sheds more light

The first confrontation between pilots and Zhu Zhenhua was met with unexpected challenges.
This is a 2 against 2 air combat, he and his comrades against the Pakistani side of two "Owl Dragon." However, there was a small situation on the plane of his comrades before takeoff.
2 to 2 became 1 to 2, Zhu Zhenhua did not apply to cancel the confrontation. After the launch of the fighter, he opened his hands and feet, dare to fight, after several rounds of "Guild Wars", and finally seize the fleeting fighter to obtain air combat victory. "Mr. ZHU, the job!" After the confrontation, the Pakistani pilots patted Zhu Zhenhua shoulder said, not just for his skills and tactics, more on his body of the bloody.

My interpretation: It was supposed to be 2 v 2 but a problem developed in one of the Chinese jets, so they proceeded with 1 v 2. Several rounds of combat took place, and finally in a round 1 J-11 defeated two JF-17s.

@Chinese-Dragon @wanglaokan did I get this correct? Original Chinese

此次中巴空军联训中，飞行员朱振华的第一次对抗就遇到了意想不到的挑战。

　　这是一次2对2空战对抗，他与战友对抗巴方两架“枭龙”。然而，就在起飞前战友的飞机出现了小情况。

　　2对2变成了1对2，朱振华没有申请取消对抗。战机升空后，他放开手脚，敢打敢拼，经过数个回合“激战”，最终抓住稍纵即逝的战机取得空战胜利。“Mr.ZHU，good job!”酣畅淋漓的对抗后，巴方飞行员拍着朱振华肩膀说，不只是为他的技战术，更为他身上的血性。

　　这次中巴联训的实战水平超过以往，新增近距支援、夜战夜训、联合反恐等现实作战课题，课目内容更加丰富。其中，昼夜间空战对抗均取消高度差，突防突击设置复杂陌生威胁环境，打击目标涵盖移动与固定、平面与立体，体系对抗混编联动、多元融合、攻防迅捷，难度强度更贴近实战。这对年轻的中方飞行员来说是一个考验，但平时的实战化训练增添了他们的底气。

　　无边沙海，一支潜伏的空降兵小分队，侦察发现了“恐怖分子”隐匿点。他们通过北斗导航系统回传了打击请求。此时，飞行员王志博正驾驶“飞豹”空中巡航，接到信息后，他迅速锁定目标。数分钟后，一枚从“飞豹”战机发射的精确制导炸弹准确命中目标，“恐怖分子”营地瞬间变成一片火海。

　　这是9月20日中巴联训对地攻击训练中的一个场面。当实时画面传到指挥大厅，顿时掌声雷动，巴方指挥官连连称赞。

In French : During the Sino-Pakistani "Shaheen VI" exercise, a J-11B beat 2 JF-17s in a 1 vs 2 aerial engagement.

Yes, but the tweet fails to mention that 'several rounds' were executed before this win was achieved.

@HRK - Somebody should post the correct information as reply to that tweet.

 

[Muhammad Omar]

Read the full information presented before commenting.

Can you summarize it please

 

[Raider 21]

Even after several rounds J-11B wins the game

That is part of the exercise. You land, debrief and learn from mistakes. PAF Vipers were bagged pretty well by their Red Flag counterparts yet they got them back in return....it works both ways in exercises.

 

[CriticalThought]

That is part of the exercise. You land, debrief and learn from mistakes. PAF Vipers were bagged pretty well by their Red Flag counterparts yet they got them back in return....it works both ways in exercises.

Sir, he is out for laughs and completely non-serious. There is currently no reason to believe that J-11 came out on top in all engagements. Let's wait for confirmation from Chinese members.

 

[Raider 21]

Sir, he is out for laughs and completely non-serious. There is currently no reason to believe that J-11 came out on top in all engagements. Let's wait for confirmation from Chinese members.

Why not ??

 

[CriticalThought]

Why not ??

Because the translation for original source in unavailable. And no reliable source has confirmed anything.

 

[AbdulRehman Qureshi]

That's great because with joint exercises they will get know each other more.

 

[Muhammad Omar]

Sir, he is out for laughs and completely non-serious. There is currently no reason to believe that J-11 came out on top in all engagements. Let's wait for confirmation from Chinese members.

Laugh it all you want man laugh it all you want


Use Google Translator
Lors de l'exercice aérien sino-pakistanais "Shaheen VI", un J-11B a "battu" deux JF-17 dans un combat aérien 1 vs 2.

During the Sino-Pakistani air exercise "Shaheen VI", a J-11B "beat" two JF-17s in a 1 vs 2 air combat.

 

[CriticalThought]

Laugh it all you want man laugh it all you want


Use Google Translator
Lors de l'exercice aérien sino-pakistanais "Shaheen VI", un J-11B a "battu" deux JF-17 dans un combat aérien 1 vs 2.

During the Sino-Pakistani air exercise "Shaheen VI", a J-11B "beat" two JF-17s in a 1 vs 2 air combat.

You are relying on a translation of a translation. Your fault.

 

[Muhammad Omar]

You are relying on a translation of a translation. Your fault.

and you are relying on believes that JF-17 is superior to every threat out there and can counter them just like PAF

keep defending JF-17 like you are doing the thing is J-11B is superior to JF-17 i don't wanna discuss about J-11D here which might have killed 3 JF-17's


FACT is JF-17 is not even close to F-16's Block 52 yet
and we don't know what will block III will look like everything is speculations

See the videos of Oscar of the dogfight between IAF and PAF against MKI Mirages etc that's gonna be the eye opener for sure