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The defining geopolitical drama of the next century will be the battle for power and influence between China and America. That emerging struggle is already posing awkward choices for Asian countries, caught between the two global giants.

On Monday the US Senate was expected to pass a bill allowing for the imposition of tariffs on Chinese goods. Even if the protectionist drive in America now pauses for a while, this confrontational mood in the US poses a dilemma for China’s neighbours. China is now the largest trading partner for Japan, India, Australia, South Korea and most of the nations of south-east Asia. But these countries still have their most important military relationship with the US. How long can their economic and strategic interests point in different directions?

Not for long, if one is to judge by an editorial in the People’s Daily last week. The official newspaper of the Chinese Communist party took aim at “certain countries” who “think as long as they can balance China with the help of US military power, they are free to do whatever they want”.

The article was probably provoked by a statement from Japan and the Philippines, the previous day, in which the two countries promised to boost naval co-operation and implicitly disputed China’s extensive territorial claims in the South China Sea. But China’s warning could equally have been aimed at Vietnam, India, South Korea, Australia or Taiwan – all of whom have moved over the past year to strengthen military ties with America.

The irony, of course, is that it is precisely Chinese sabre-rattling, exemplified by that article in the People’s Daily, that is sending its neighbours running screaming into the arms of Uncle Sam. Until recently China seemed to be playing an intelligent waiting game – relying on its growing economic strength to draw its neighbours inexorably into a Chinese sphere of influence. Now the People’s Republic risks overplaying its hand – and so creating the anti-Chinese alliance that it both fears and denounces.

A more patient policy would make sense for China because it is likely to be the world’s largest economy by 2020. The US remains the world’s dominant military power – and is even the pre-eminent military force in China’s own Pacific backyard. But since political and military power usually track economic power, American hegemony in the Pacific Ocean may ultimately be unsustainable. It is this point that the People’s Daily was alluding to, when it warned – “No country wants to give back their ticket for the high-speed train of China’s economic development.”

With the US government borrowing 40 cents of every dollar that it spends – and China the largest foreign buyer of US debt – the Chinese are indirectly funding American military dominance of the Pacific. Even as America’s allies in the region move to strengthen ties with the US, they worry that America’s money problems will force the country to scale back in the Pacific. At the same time, China is building up its own military. American planners point to the development of a new range of Chinese missiles that directly threaten the airbases and aircraft carriers on which America bases its military dominance in the Pacific.

China’s neighbours are also worried by the country’s growing muscle – and its willingness to flex it. Over the past couple of years, China’s maritime disputes with Vietnam and Japan have taken on a new bitterness – with clashes on the high seas followed by bitter diplomatic exchanges. The Indians say that China is becoming more assertive about its claims to parts of Indian territory. The South Koreans are also jumpy about China’s relationship with the North.

The dark interpretation of China’s actions is that nationalist forces and the country’s military are becoming more influential in Beijing. A younger generation is coming to power, schooled to believe that China has been victimised by the outside world because it has been weak. The current contrast in the economic fortunes of China and America has also increased China’s confidence and assertiveness.

A more benign interpretation of Chinese actions is that the country now has a growing range of economic interests around the world – which makes it all but inevitable that it will spend a lot more on its military and will be tougher in asserting its interests. The hungry Chinese economy is dependent on imported energy – and would be vulnerable to a naval blockade. Building a few aircraft carriers and submarines, and pushing China’s claims to the energy riches of the South China Sea, might seem like a sensible precaution for the Chinese government – rather than the aggressive claim to regional dominance that its neighbours fear.

Yet even this relatively benign interpretation of China’s actions is not entirely reassuring. It suggests that China and the US are increasingly likely to interpret each other’s actions and alliances as threatening – and to respond in ways that then feed the other side’s perception of aggression. This is a pattern of great power behaviour that might ring a bell for students of 20th century history.

Yet amid all these tensions, diplomatic exchanges across the Pacific continue. Next month Barack Obama will host all the major powers of the region, including China, at the Asia-Pacific Economic Co-operation summit that will be held in the president’s native Hawaii. Perhaps Mr Obama should arrange a trip to Pearl Harbor to remind everybody of the dangers of strategic miscalculation in the Pacific.

China or the US? Make your choice - FT.com

I know india will definitely on our side LOL
 
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The article was probably provoked by a statement from Japan and the Philippines, the previous day, in which the two countries promised to boost naval co-operation and implicitly disputed China’s extensive territorial claims in the South China Sea. But China’s warning could equally have been aimed at Vietnam, India, South Korea, Australia or Taiwan – all of whom have moved over the past year to strengthen military ties with America.

chinese seriously over estimating there power they cant take 7 countries on there own and if they wage war with all these countries USA will not loose this golden opportunity to wipe china off map !
 
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chinese seriously over estimating there power they cant take 7 countries on there own and if they wage war with all these countries USA will not loose this golden opportunity to wipe china off map !

If you think we are so stupid, you will be disappointed. :lol:

We are the largest trading partner for all of those countries. Why wage war for no reason, when we can sit back and collect hundreds of billions every year in trade surpluses?

India is more likely to declare war on Australia than we are, Indians are the ones whining about being bashed over there. We're the ones who are buying enormous amounts of coal and Uranium from them, which they refuse to sell to India.

And last but not least: Global Peace Index - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
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I don't think China wants to highlight the rivalry with America -- not least because it is not ready for a confrontation.

It's China's enemies in the region who play it up to squeeze more deals from the west.
 
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While China is ready economically to take over as the world's sole superpower, the US has strategically & geopolitically 'entrenched' itself all over the globe. Which is why the world economy is feeling such a pinch right now: the US is doing terribly, & the world has to suffer because of it. China has done well to an extent, especially in Africa; but it needs to spread its influence more in Central Asia & the Middle East, the real regions of interest. It is for these reasons that China is not ready to take over the US right now, unless somethings drastically change in the US in the coming years.
 
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Siding with America : India, Japan, Korea, Taiwan, Australia, Philippines, Vietnam, Singapore.
Siding with China : Pakistan, Myanmar.
 
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Siding with America : India, Japan, Korea, Taiwan, Australia, Philippines, Vietnam, Singapore.
Siding with China : Pakistan, Myanmar.

Or siding with: China, India, Russia, Korea, Japan, Taiwan, Hong Kong, Singapore, Australia, Singapore.

Making money and enjoying the riches business deals brings into ones country is far better than going into war. More specifically, the only ones it will hurt in the war are the Asians since the theatre would be in Asia and not America. There is no need to let America play you like a fool.
 
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Making money and enjoying the riches business deals brings into ones country is far better than going into war.
Well, it's China that's calling for war against Philippines and Vietnam, not the other way around.

More specifically, the only ones it will hurt in the war are the Asians since the theatre would be in Asia and not America.
If the battleground has to be in Asia to defend freedom and democracy, then so be it.

Oppressed Chinese people could be liberated in the process too.
 
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Yes, please save me from the evil Chinese Government!!!!

They are giving us the fastest rate of growth out of any major economy, how dare they do that?? :rofl:

how dare the evil CCP lift 800 million people out of poverty??? how dare the evil CCP double the lifespan of average chinese people? chinese people rise up!:sarcastic:
 
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Well, it's China that's calling for war against Philippines and Vietnam, not the other way around.


If the battleground has to be in Asia to defend freedom and democracy, then so be it.

Oppressed Chinese people could be liberated in the process too.

While your country behaves a proxy to America & its regional interests, a diminishing power; China is actually growing at a tremendous rate, & opening itself up to the world.
 
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No side except Russia-India-Japan friends :)

CHina-USA had better to help united ASEAN to get stronger , then you can earn more mutual benefit :)
 
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Well, it's China that's calling for war against Philippines and Vietnam, not the other way around.

Actually, no. China is only interested in business and cooperation with its neighbours. It is you along with the naive thinkers who thinks war is the only way to addressing regional issues and disputes. Fortunately for us, China is governed by people who are competent and we went from a weak and poor country to whoooosh over your head a big, powerful and rich one and it is still growing at a tremendous rate. Of course, Jealous American and the unfriendly neighbours would want to destroy it. Another hurtful truth for you is, China is now the biggest if not the top 5 trade partners with majority of ASEAN as well as America - Your daddy nation.

If the battleground has to be in Asia to defend freedom and democracy, then so be it.

Oppressed Chinese people could be liberated in the process too.

Says the sock puppet? :rolleyes:
 
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