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The Indian Air Force is working to deploy its brand-new S-400 air defence system, acquired from Russia.

Hindustan Times recently reported that the first Indian S-400 unit would be operational in April and would be deployed in “depth areas to tackle the threat from China”.

The Indian Air Force has previously described the S-400 as a ‘game changer’ given the air defence system's advanced sensors and array of missiles. The S-400 uses four types of surface-to-air missiles, with ranges from 40km to 400km. The missiles can shoot down multiple types of targets such as aircraft, cruise missiles, bombs and some types of ballistic missiles.

The versatility of the S-400 has meant that Pakistan has considered its acquisition by India as a threat, as the system can shoot down aircraft even in Pakistani airspace.

An expert on China's military told Defense News last week that Beijing could allow Pakistan access to hypersonic weapons to counter the S-400. Hypersonic weapons, which fly at over five times the speed of sound, are difficult for most radars to track and existing surface-to-air missiles to engage. Richard D. Fisher is a senior fellow at the International Assessment and Strategy Center. He has testified in the US Congress about China's military advances and written extensively on Beijing's armed forces.

He told Defense News, “It is very likely that, to the degree that China has aided North Korea’s new hypersonic glide vehicle (HGV) missile warhead, it has or will similarly assist a Pakistani HGV, or simply sell the DF-17... Or Beijing now has the option of allowing North Korea to sell its HGV to Pakistan.”

A hypersonic glide vehicle is a type of hypersonic weapon that is mounted on a ballistic missile and released in the upper atmosphere, after which it glides to its target. According to US intelligence estimates, the DF-17 has a range of around 2,500km and moves at between five and 10 times the speed of sound. The Chinese military is believed to have inducted the DF-17 into service.

Pakistani analysts have previously argued in favour of developing hypersonic weapons to counter the deployment of the S-400.

Fisher also noted China could assist Pakistan by providing its upgraded surface-to-air missiles, which could deter the Indian Air Force from carrying out offensive operations. China has purchased from Russia both the S-400 and its predecessor, the S-300 missile system. China has developed indigenous versions of the S-300 called the HQ-9 family of surface-to-air missiles, which have already been sold to Pakistan.

Fisher told Defense News, “Like later variants of the S-300 family acquired by China, the HQ-9 featured a hard-to-jam phased array guidance and tracking radar, and its missile uses an active radar for terminal guidance.”


Mansoor Ahmed, a senior fellow at the Pakistan-based think tank Center for International Strategic Studies, told Defense News that Pakistan could also turn for help to two allies that use the S-400. Ahmed referred to the possibility of military exercises with Turkey and China that “may at least indirectly help identify its [S-400’s] strengths and weaknesses for exploring opportunities to suppress and defeat Indian S-400 systems”. Turkey or China allowing Pakistan access to their S-400 systems would allow Islamabad to develop electronic countermeasures to jam radars or craft specific flight plans for its fighter jets that reduce possibility of detection.


 
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not yey not yet my friend pakistan is not like india to rush in hurry
 
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trump said when the news from 'an expert, someone,solid resource....' are all fake news😂
'An expert on China's military told Defense News last week '
 
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The Indian Air Force is working to deploy its brand-new S-400 air defence system, acquired from Russia.

Hindustan Times recently reported that the first Indian S-400 unit would be operational in April and would be deployed in “depth areas to tackle the threat from China”.

The Indian Air Force has previously described the S-400 as a ‘game changer’ given the air defence system's advanced sensors and array of missiles. The S-400 uses four types of surface-to-air missiles, with ranges from 40km to 400km. The missiles can shoot down multiple types of targets such as aircraft, cruise missiles, bombs and some types of ballistic missiles.

The versatility of the S-400 has meant that Pakistan has considered its acquisition by India as a threat, as the system can shoot down aircraft even in Pakistani airspace.

An expert on China's military told Defense News last week that Beijing could allow Pakistan access to hypersonic weapons to counter the S-400. Hypersonic weapons, which fly at over five times the speed of sound, are difficult for most radars to track and existing surface-to-air missiles to engage. Richard D. Fisher is a senior fellow at the International Assessment and Strategy Center. He has testified in the US Congress about China's military advances and written extensively on Beijing's armed forces.

He told Defense News, “It is very likely that, to the degree that China has aided North Korea’s new hypersonic glide vehicle (HGV) missile warhead, it has or will similarly assist a Pakistani HGV, or simply sell the DF-17... Or Beijing now has the option of allowing North Korea to sell its HGV to Pakistan.”

A hypersonic glide vehicle is a type of hypersonic weapon that is mounted on a ballistic missile and released in the upper atmosphere, after which it glides to its target. According to US intelligence estimates, the DF-17 has a range of around 2,500km and moves at between five and 10 times the speed of sound. The Chinese military is believed to have inducted the DF-17 into service.

Pakistani analysts have previously argued in favour of developing hypersonic weapons to counter the deployment of the S-400.

Fisher also noted China could assist Pakistan by providing its upgraded surface-to-air missiles, which could deter the Indian Air Force from carrying out offensive operations. China has purchased from Russia both the S-400 and its predecessor, the S-300 missile system. China has developed indigenous versions of the S-300 called the HQ-9 family of surface-to-air missiles, which have already been sold to Pakistan.

Fisher told Defense News, “Like later variants of the S-300 family acquired by China, the HQ-9 featured a hard-to-jam phased array guidance and tracking radar, and its missile uses an active radar for terminal guidance.”


Mansoor Ahmed, a senior fellow at the Pakistan-based think tank Center for International Strategic Studies, told Defense News that Pakistan could also turn for help to two allies that use the S-400. Ahmed referred to the possibility of military exercises with Turkey and China that “may at least indirectly help identify its [S-400’s] strengths and weaknesses for exploring opportunities to suppress and defeat Indian S-400 systems”. Turkey or China allowing Pakistan access to their S-400 systems would allow Islamabad to develop electronic countermeasures to jam radars or craft specific flight plans for its fighter jets that reduce possibility of detection.


I say why not. Although Pakistan should work on its own missiles plus get them from any where they can. But S 400 can be easily countered so can all other Air Defence systems in the world. There are several ways to do it.
 
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I say why not. Although Pakistan should work on its own missiles plus get them from any where they can. But S 400 can be easily countered so can all other Air Defence systems in the world. There are several ways to do it.
Lets give it due respect. Its an exceptional system. Its not impossible to defeat it but certainly not easy. And it would indeed impact PAF tactics.
 
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According to information published on the Indian newspaper website "The Week" on January 23, 2022, a military expert told Defense News, that China could offer DF-17 mobile ballistic missile systems to Pakistan in response to India's purchase of the Russian S-400 air defense missile system.
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Chinese DF-17 mobile solid-fueled road-mobile medium-range hypersonic ballistic missile. (Picture source China Internet)

On January 17, 2022, Army Recognition has reported that the first S-400 air defense missile system regiment of the Indian army will be ready for operational deployment by April 202, while four other S-400 regiments will be ready by 2023.

With the DF-17, Pakistan would have a new military power in terms of ballistic missiles which would not be detectable by the Russian S-400 air defense missile system. Indeed, with its high flight speed, the hypersonic missile is difficult for most current radars to track and existing surface-to-air missiles to engage.

The DF-17 or Dongfeng-17 is a solid-fuelled road-mobile medium-range ballistic missile developed by the Chinese defense industry that mounts the DF-ZF HGV (Hypersonic Glide Vehicle). HGV differs from traditional ballistic missiles by their ability to maneuver and operate at lower altitudes. The combination of maneuverability and high speed poses significant challenges for conventional missile defense. Most hypersonic glide vehicles have been designed with a ballistic missile for the first stage. A hypersonic missile is able to fly at a speed faster than five times the speed of sound, or Mach 5 (6,100 km/h).

China has tested the DF-17 DF-ZF HGV at least nine times since 2014. U.S. defense officials have reportedly identified the range of the DF-ZF as approximately 1,950 km and have stated that the vehicle may be capable of performing “extreme maneuvers” during flight.

Citing information published on the website "Missile Threat", the missile of DF-17 is solid-fueled, measures around 11 m in length, and weighs around 15,000 kg. The DF-17’s booster appears to be the same as that used for China’s DF-16 ballistic missile. Its accompanying DF-ZF HGV reportedly reaches speeds of Mach 5-10 (1.72-3.43 km/s) in its glide phase.7 U.S. intelligence assessments suggest that the DF-17 possesses a range between 1,800 and 2,500 km.8 Although Chinese commentators have emphasized the DF-17’s conventional mission, the missile may alternatively equip nuclear warheads.

The DF-17 has demonstrated a high degree of accuracy in testing, with one U.S. government official saying a test warhead “within meters” of its intended, stationary target.10 U.S. defense officials have also said the DF-ZF HGV performed “extreme maneuvers” and “evasive actions” in previous test flights.11

Some reports suggest China could develop the DF-17 into a second-generation anti-ship ballistic missile (ASBM), further enabling China’s strategy to deter U.S. regional intervention.12 In January 2019, PLA officials claimed to have an anti-ship DF-17 variant under development.

The DF-17 along with the DF-ZF was officially unveiled at the Chinese National Day military parade on October 1, 2019.

 
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One is shield another is a spear,the comparison doesn't fit imo.
Also DF 17 is much greater asset than s 400. There's the risk of US and nato-turkey stealing the tech. East wind 17 or Dongfang 17 can alter the geopolitics of South Asia,it is too risky for sales.
 
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Why not if available.
But s400 is not there to counter long range Ballistic Missiles.
It is threat to our fighter jets.
 
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Is there not already a thread about this?
 
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